Israel: We Are At War

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Yes, clearly if I only understood religion better I would understand that god is punishing Jews for their sins and that this is a good thing.

I sincerely hope you are put on a long vacation or banned as you're a disgusting, immoral person.
You are not making any sense. I haven't even met a single Jewish person in my life so harming one would be out of the question.

And if God punishes them, how does that make ME an immoral person? You are getting blinded by something clearly. Cool down. Think clearly.
 

fskimospy

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You are not making any sense. I haven't even met a single Jewish person in my life so harming one would be out of the question.

And if God punishes them, how does that make ME an immoral person? You are getting blinded by something clearly. Cool down. Think clearly.
Pretty simple - you're projecting your own wishes through god as an intermediary.

I mean...duh?
 
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Kindly explain their current still ongoing genocide without such a theory.

They look set to start a full scale Middle East war btw. Any thoughts on that, Mr. Defender of Israel?
The current ongoing genocide is the latest conflagration in a tire fire that’s been burning since the the last century at least. Unless you are prepared to argue that any genocide or ongoing human rights conflict that the US took one side on means that side controls the world, your argument based on current circumstances is complete shit. Show me where I defended Israel. You can’t. I think Israel is behaving and has behaved disgracefully. I just disagree with you religious-based biggoted horseshit conspiracy theory, Mr. Protocols of Zion.
 
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brycejones

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You are not making any sense. I haven't even met a single Jewish person in my life so harming one would be out of the question.

And if God punishes them, how does that make ME an immoral person? You are getting blinded by something clearly. Cool down. Think clearly.
How do you know you've never met a single Jewish person in your life?
 
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How do you know you've never met a single Jewish person in your life?
I've only seen one from afar. I was sitting in a meeting with one. I did not meet him. He was a financial advisor or something. So executive level and would be beneath him to meet an ordinary person like me. How did I know he was Jewish? Because he looked like this:



Yes. Complete with the skullcap.
 
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JD50

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I've only seen one from afar. I was sitting in a meeting with one. I did not meet him. He was a financial advisor or something. So executive level and would be beneath him to meet an ordinary person like me. How did I know he was Jewish? Because he looked like this:

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Yes. Complete with the skullcap.
This may surprise you but not every Jewish person looks like that.
 

MrSquished

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Just try to find a post where he says that is alright and leave the poor straw people alone.
Well he's been pretty supportive of Israel including when the war started and then kept going, he basically had zero empathy or understanding of the Palestinians situation. Absolutely none .He was only caring about the Israeli point of view. Well I don't agree with Igor 's stone for a stone proposition about Israel, it's absolutely terrible, I think he has a fair point about being okay with the gazan concentration camp.
 

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They’ve dismantled their entire leadership, I think that is a lot more than a kick in the balls. Iran is being exposed as a bit of a joke.
 

K1052

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They’ve dismantled their entire leadership, I think that is a lot more than a kick in the balls. Iran is being exposed as a bit of a joke.

I think there is an argument that Hezbollah and the Iranians who aid them got a bit lazy and sloppy. After all Sinwar is still alive in Gaza even with the Israelis bombing the place for a year.
 
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Perknose

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They’ve dismantled their entire leadership, I think that is a lot more than a kick in the balls. Iran is being exposed as a bit of a joke.
Sadly, I think, in the long run, that this will turn out to be a Phyrric victory. 12 million Jews in Israel surrounded by hundreds of thousands of Islamists who will now, even more than before, be out for blood revenge. This hatred Israel has sown will not go away. You can't kill your way to peace.
 

brycejones

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Well he's been pretty supportive of Israel including when the war started and then kept going, he basically had zero empathy or understanding of the Palestinians situation. Absolutely none .He was only caring about the Israeli point of view. Well I don't agree with Igor 's stone for a stone proposition about Israel, it's absolutely terrible, I think he has a fair point about being okay with the gazan concentration camp.
Link up recent quotes wheee he is pretty supportive of Israel as you put it.
 

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Jaskalas

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Sadly, I think, in the long run, that this will turn out to be a Phyrric victory. 12 million Jews in Israel surrounded by hundreds of thousands of Islamists who will now, even more than before, be out for blood revenge. This hatred Israel has sown will not go away. You can't kill your way to peace.
And Americans cling to guns for... safety FROM guns.
Humans invent a lot of logic traps for themselves. As simple "solutions" take priority over complex compromises and sacrifices to achieve a greater good.
We think if we just "ape smash" it hard enough that we will prevail.

OTOH, Hezbollah was armed by Iran for a greater war. With the incessant bombing between them this past year, and the massacre of Oct 7th. Israel must have concluded that peace was not possible. That Hezbollah, like Hamas, would strike a terrible blow some day. They felt threatened and reacted. Lashed out to eliminate this threat before it could act. Living with that threat was deemed unacceptable.

Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war.
 
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RnR_au

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Israel must have concluded that peace was not possible. That Hezbollah, like Hamas, would strike a terrible blow some day. They felt threatened and reacted. Lashed out to eliminate this threat before it could act. Living with that threat was deemed unacceptable.

Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war.
They saw what drones could do in Ukraine and played 'what-if-Hezbollah-had-a-million-drones'. Israel didn't like the results.

But also to iterate... and Bibi isn’t in jail so totally worth it.
 

MrSquished

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Biden needs to cut Israel off from a lot of weapons like now. This needs to be Biden's decision and it is well-deserved by Israel. Don't let them dictate the dialogue and events while the election draws closer as the evil Israeli government not only lives out its fantasies of killing, but also influencing this election.
 
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It appears Israel has decided to go from poking the bear to all out kicking it in the nuts. Killed Hezbollah leader in Beirut.


Er, isn't Israel the bear in that scenario?

They’ve dismantled their entire leadership, I think that is a lot more than a kick in the balls. Iran is being exposed as a bit of a joke.

Was this not known? I've been baffled at people legit thought Russia and Iran are real traditional military threats to do anything more than attack weaker nations and fund/supply terrorist organizations. Its why the fearmongering about both of them has been more about either the past or others (Israel, and Russia is due to latent anti-Communist sentiment - which of course suddenly dropped by Republicans when Russia actually did awful shit worth doing something about like Ukraine, Georgia, etc).
 

K1052

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Biden needs to cut Israel off from a lot of weapons like now. This needs to be Biden's decision and it is well-deserved by Israel. Don't let them dictate the dialogue and events while the election draws closer as the evil Israeli government not only lives out its fantasies of killing, but also influencing this election.

Doing it now would just make fodder that helps Trump. Same reason I suspect the Iranians will hold back on any major retaliatory moves until after the US election.
 

Jaskalas

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Houthis launched a ballistic missile at Israel.
Airstrikes in Yemen followed.

Oh, and the article provides some context and background info for why Israel may have decided on total war with Hezbollah. The bombing of Israel from Hezbollah caused 60,000 people to flee their homes this past year. Apparently Hezbollah's bombing of Israel was more widespread and more effective than I previously realized. Was not just fear driven but a practical need to retaliate and resolve a crisis.

Israel Says It Has Struck Dozens Of Houthi Targets In Yemen

The Houthis launched a ballistic missile attack on Ben Gurion airport on Saturday when Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was arriving.
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Hezbollah began firing rockets, missiles and drones into northern Israel after Hamas’ Oct. 7 attack out of Gaza triggered the war there. Hezbollah and Hamas are allies that consider themselves part of an Iran-backed “Axis of Resistance” against Israel.
Israel has responded with waves of airstrikes, and the conflict has steadily ratcheted up to the brink of all-out war, raising fears of a region-wide conflagration.
Israel says it is determined to return some 60,000 of its citizens to communities in the north that were evacuated nearly a year ago.
 
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