I don't think you even know half the quotes that you posted. Some were totally sarcastic, and most were more like saying, ok it's terrorism but why does Israel get a pass and it's not terrorism then?
Seriously. Look at the quotes. but America ww2, I am glad Hamas got Israeli military stuff, who holds concert in desert. Why is it ok for Israelis to commit atrocities but not Hamas. Seriously.? You obviously haven’t read the thread.
Maybe you're reading those quotes differently than me, but there's been a whole pile of comments in this thread that sound very 'I'm not saying Germany should have invaded Poland, but man everyone's been really terrible to them'.I don't think you even know half the quotes that you posted. Some were totally sarcastic, and most were more like saying, ok it's terrorism but why does Israel get a pass and it's not terrorism then?
No they weren’t liar and that is my damn point. you are conditioning Hamas’s barbarism.I don't think you even know half the quotes that you posted. Some were totally sarcastic, and most were more like saying, ok it's terrorism but why does Israel get a pass and it's not terrorism then?
Maybe you're reading those quotes differently than me, but there's been a whole pile of comments in this thread that sound very 'I'm not saying Germany should have invaded Poland, but man everyone's been really terrible to them'.
And that may have been justifiable if they attacked military of Poland and not civilian women and children and noncombatants at a music festival for gods sake. Israel is horrible but the quotes are stating that is justified for Hamas for their crimes against humanity.Maybe you're reading those quotes differently than me, but there's been a whole pile of comments in this thread that sound very 'I'm not saying Germany should have invaded Poland, but man everyone's been really terrible to them'.
Maybe you're reading those quotes differently than me, but there's been a whole pile of comments in this thread that sound very 'I'm not saying Germany should have invaded Poland, but man everyone's been really terrible to them'.
I quickly grabbed three quotes and they are totally bullshit. I can keep going, or you can stop lying.No they weren’t liar.
How is this anything but justification? Bonus points for the straw man fallacy tacked on.I quickly grabbed three quotes and they are totally bullshit. I can keep going, or you can stop lying.
Not like Israel hasn't sown these seeds for 100+ years taking the Palestinians' nation away from them. I'm sure you righties would be engaging in constant terrorism if Mexico flooded here, seized complete power, stuck the whites in ghettos, and renamed the nation Aztlan.
No they weren’t liar.
The weird thing is I find both Israel’s and Hamas’s actions appalling but many seem to think I am justifying israel‘s behavior ignoring my lambasting of them in this thread. I am only stating Hamas crossed a rubicon with their public barbarism that gives the yahoo in Israel internal justification to commit atrocities on larger scale in return. Also, the quotes are attempts to justify Hamas and they are gross.If that's true then people are way more divided on this than Russia/Ukraine... Guess it's time to define the cards.
I think the biggest concern is Hezbollah entering the conflict from Lebanon and attacking Israel, Israel invading Lebanon, followed by Iran entering the conflict turning into a proper shit show.So when Israel mounts their ground assault there is a worry that this might "expand" ... with not so many words into what "expand" refers to. If Israel goes full blast here can it pull in other regional forces?
IfNotNow, a progressive American Jewish group that opposes Israeli apartheid, said that while “we watch the unfolding horrors with heartbreak and dread for our loved ones ― Israelis and Palestinians alike” ― the attack by Palestinian fighters was a result of decades of oppression.
“We cannot and will not say today’s actions by Palestinian militants are unprovoked,” the group said in a statement on Saturday. “Every day under Israel’s system of apartheid is a provocation. The strangling siege on Gaza is a provocation. Settlers terrorizing entire Palestinian villages, soldiers raiding and demolishing Palestinian homes, murdering Palestinians in the streets, Israeli ministers calling for genocide and expulsion.”
“These are the provocations of the most extreme right wing government in Israel’s history and an emboldened fascist movement escalating this crisis across the land.”
Media Calls The Attack On Israel Unprovoked. Experts Say That’s Historically Inaccurate.
As the violence between Israel and Hamas rages on, experts point to the decadeslong apartheid against Palestinians that led to the recent attacks.www.huffpost.com
With the US joining against Iran if that happens. Cheery thought 🙄I think the biggest concern is Hezbollah entering the conflict from Lebanon and attacking Israel, Israel invading Lebanon, followed by Iran entering the conflict turning into a proper shit show.
I stated half his quotes were nonsense. I didn't say they were all nonsense.How is this anything but justification? Bonus points for the straw man fallacy tacked on.
Nonzero chance it goes nuclear if Iran actually engages militarily.Hezbollah is already involved at this point, they've lost guys. IRG joining in could happen, in which case things will really start to go to shit. I'm not sure I see Israel going it alone at that point.
And I take extreme issue with the stance that atrocities are justified if your opponent does the same. Maybe it's a personal moral code or some shit but I cannot, and will not ever, accept justification for decapitating a child. It simply does not exist in the same reality I do. If it does for you or others, so be it.I stated half his quotes were nonsense. I didn't say they were all nonsense.
Yes they are justifying it, in the context of Israel having done the same only 10,000 times worse. Basically that we know that all these people only judging the Palestinians were that if the roles were reversed and the Jews were living in an apartheid state run by the Palestinians, these people would call the Israeli terrorist attacks on palestinian civilians as freedom fighters. That is what they are pointing out, the hypocrisy.
And we all know that is true with pro apartheid state Zionists. Which is who we are talking about here. If you think calling out hypocrisy is a straw man, that's on you.
I just want to warn people about all the misinfo on twitter right now
You seem to be confusing "justifying" with "understanding." Go through your list and remove all the ones that are simply explaining why Hamas does what it does without actually condoning what Hamas does, and just keep the ones that explicitly say what Hamas did to civilians is good or whatever.Here you go dans69
Oh wow you mean exactly what you are doing to us? That must suck.The weird thing is I find both Israel’s and Hamas’s actions appalling but many seem to think I am justifying israel‘s behavior ignoring my lambasting of them in this thread. ...
I've already questioned the IDF's desire to avoid collateral, but it is something they have the ability to do. You do understand that Hamas intentionally uses civilians for cover though, right?
Hamas is threatening to execute hostages live on camera. For all of Israel's faults I can't ever recall them resorting to going full ISIS like that. Not seeing the absolute parity some do. Mowing down hundreds of kids at a music festival seems a lot different to me than putting a Hellfire into a car to kill the armed occupants, but having the blast take down children who entered the radius from out of view just before impact. A non-specific example reflecting their tactics. It's not just a sum of mistakes for the IDF I know, for instance I've always considered Shireen Abu Akeh's death a targeted killing.
Here you go dans69
I mean they aren't hard to read. First off all woolfe is pretty much a zionist apologist, this quote is completely sarcasm