Israel: We Are At War

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Roger Wilco

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Raqqa, Mosul, Bakhmut.
Yes, bombed out husks are the picture of cities in war.

There is no doubt the Israeli response will be horrific.
But I will continue to ask, given the actions of Hamas, the invasion, the slaughter, the hostages, the missile barrage. What alternative is there, but to respond? To capture Gaza and eliminate Hamas?
There will be unimaginable suffering ahead.

BARBARISM: Hamas slaughters 40 BABIES in one town with some beheaded...
With Hamas's actions, they condemn many people to a horrific fate.

The only way to respond is to stop it from happening before it happens.

This cycle of violence will persist until global warming turns the Middle East into New Venus.
 
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Zor Prime

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Raqqa, Mosul, Bakhmut.
Yes, bombed out husks are the picture of cities in war.

There is no doubt the Israeli response will be horrific.
But I will continue to ask, given the actions of Hamas, the invasion, the slaughter, the hostages, the missile barrage. What alternative is there, but to respond? To capture Gaza and eliminate Hamas?
There will be unimaginable suffering ahead.

BARBARISM: Hamas slaughters 40 BABIES in one town with some beheaded...
With Hamas's actions, they condemn many people to a horrific fate.
Yeah, like ... shooting or blowing someone up is one thing. Even babies.


But babies -- decapitated, babies? As in without a head? Like, decapitated decapitated? Shit, man.
 
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Zor Prime

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I don't understand the depravity in some people. This is similar to what the Russians did to the Ukrainians.
Yeah. One of the worst things I ever did was watch a video of one of our soldiers getting beheaded. That has fucked with me for a couple decades whenever I think back to it. I think there's a line between murderer and completely irredeemable monster.
 

Oyeve

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Yeah. One of the worst things I ever did was watch a video of one of our soldiers getting beheaded. That has fucked with me for a couple decades whenever I think back to it. I think there's a line between murderer and completely irredeemable monster.
Yea, I remember seeing those. Scarred me forever.
 
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The Israelis tell Palestinian civilians to evacuate Gaza while maintaining a blockade of Gaza , preventing civilians from evacuating , and then Israelis attack, killing those civilians who couldn’t evacuate (because Israel wouldn’t allow them to and damn well knew it when they told the civilians to evacuate). Does this clarify the situation for you?
also all the decades of isreal killing pals up to this point. something many seem to be over looking. it’s not like this attack just randomly happened for zero reason.
 
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woolfe9998

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also all the decades of isreal killing pals up to this point. something many seem to be over looking. it’s not like this attack just randomly happened for zero reason.

The killing of the Pals didn't happen for zero reason either. This conflict goes way back.
 

amenx

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Raqqa, Mosul, Bakhmut.
Yes, bombed out husks are the picture of cities in war.

There is no doubt the Israeli response will be horrific.
But I will continue to ask, given the actions of Hamas, the invasion, the slaughter, the hostages, the missile barrage. What alternative is there, but to respond? To capture Gaza and eliminate Hamas?
There will be unimaginable suffering ahead.

BARBARISM: Hamas slaughters 40 BABIES in one town with some beheaded...
With Hamas's actions, they condemn many people to a horrific fate.
Odd thing is, Hamas does not have a history of beheadings like ISIS. Even ISIS never beheaded children or babies due to what would be going way past their Islamic beliefs. From the article: Speaking from the scene of the bloodbath, i24News reporter Nicole Zedek said a soldier told her they had found "babies with heads cut off"..

Israel relies very heavily on disinformation. This a perfect opportunity for them to avail of that.
 
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MrSquished

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Usage of White Phosporus was essentially stopped in 2013.
What's your point?

The point is they used it and there was nothing like this outrage about it here in the States. And they just continue to kill and oppress Palestinian civilians in different ways and have since 2013. and have thwarted the peace process.
 

MrSquished

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So let me get this straight,

Hamas fires thousands of rockets in to Israel destroying buildings and killing civilians . Hamas then invade Israel, killing innocent Civilians in their houses, in the cars, in the streets, in Music festival and then takes hostages.

In response Israel declares war on Hamas, tells Palestinian civilians to evacuate Gaza in order to attack Hamas fighters and infrastructure. Palestinians just remain at homes, Israel bombs the targets and oups there are still civilians inside and killed.

Now people say Israel does the same things as Hamas , killing civilians.

wtf

so do you think this recent attack exists in a vacuum?

wtf
 

MrSquished

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Odd thing is, Hamas does not have a history of beheadings like ISIS. Even ISIS never beheaded children or babies due to what would be going way past their Islamic beliefs. From the article: Speaking from the scene of the bloodbath, i24News reporter Nicole Zedek said a soldier told her they had found "babies with heads cut off"..

Israel relies very heavily on disinformation. This a perfect opportunity for them to avail of that.

I don't believe most of the shit Hamas says, and I certainly don't believe most of the shit the radical government of Israel says either.
 

HomerJS

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Odd thing is, Hamas does not have a history of beheadings like ISIS. Even ISIS never beheaded children or babies due to what would be going way past their Islamic beliefs. From the article: Speaking from the scene of the bloodbath, i24News reporter Nicole Zedek said a soldier told her they had found "babies with heads cut off"..

Israel relies very heavily on disinformation. This a perfect opportunity for them to avail of that.
Watched again and you are correct. Reporter did not see beheaded babies. She should have asked to personally see it before reporting.

This is the kind of shit that needs to be confirmed before reporting. News agencies with an agenda will report this as fact without confirmation.
 

MrSquished

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nah. it's almost guaranteed he got serious warnings about this. the neocons drooled for their pearl harbor type event in America to go invade Iraq, and they got it, and Bibi has shown he is nothing but evil, guaranteed he wanted a pearl harbor event to go full scorched earth on the Palestinians, since he has embraced the far right and shown he has zero interest in peace, but only annexation.

neocons and bibi, two similar shades of pure evil.
 

linkgoron

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What's your point?

The point is they used it and there was nothing like this outrage about it here in the States. And they just continue to kill and oppress Palestinian civilians in different ways and have since 2013. and have thwarted the peace process.
My point is that they stopped using it ten years ago. Hamas launched thousands of rockets as well, both sides have done stuff to thwart the peace process. Yes, Israel is the stronger side in this conflict.
I don't believe most of the shit Hamas says, and I certainly don't believe most of the shit the radical government of Israel says either.
I suggest you go back on this statement, unless you think that someone can invent this shit. She didn't see the dead babies, but she has seen the stroller and cribs overturned.

nah. it's almost guaranteed he got serious warnings about this. the neocons drooled for their pearl harbor type event in America to go invade Iraq, and they got it, and Bibi has shown he is nothing but evil, guaranteed he wanted a pearl harbor event to go full scorched earth on the Palestinians, since he has embraced the far right and shown he has zero interest in peace, but only annexation.

neocons and bibi, two similar shades of pure evil.
I doubt Bibi survives this politically. I also think that there's no way he'd let something like this happen. He's evil and corrupt, but he's a narcissist not a radical.
 

AtenRa

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Hell, they were killing indiscriminately anyone unlucky to be in their path.
They didn't just attack Israelis, they just attacked everyone no matter what, like ISIS.

Thailand​

Thailand said 18 of its citizens had been killed, according to the latest available figures.
Some 11 Thai nationals had been taken hostage, the foreign ministry said.
Thailand's foreign ministry said air force planes were on standby to fly its citizens home.
There are some 30,000 Thais in Israel working in agriculture, many near the Gaza border. The foreign ministry says 3,226 want to be repatriated from Israel.

Nepal​

Nepal said 10 of its citizens had been killed.
The country confirmed on Sunday that they were students who had gone to Israel to work and acquire skills in an agricultural firm.
An additional 265 Nepali students are also working on various farms, with another 4,500 Nepalis working as caregivers.
 

MrSquished

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My point is that they stopped using it ten years ago. Hamas launched thousands of rockets as well, both sides have done stuff to thwart the peace process. Yes, Israel is the stronger side in this conflict.

I suggest you go back on this statement, unless you think that someone can invent this shit. She didn't see the dead babies, but she has seen the stroller and cribs overturned.


I doubt Bibi survives this politically. I also think that there's no way he'd let something like this happen. He's evil and corrupt, but he's a narcissist not a radical.
Israel has been thwarting the peace process in many ways for a looong time, including building settlements against UN agreements to keep making the Palestinian lands smaller and smaller.

also in 2014 Palestinian leadership, with Hamas, agreed to acknowledge Israel as a state with a peace agreement. Israel only got more aggressive since then. The radical government and right wing wackos don't want peace. They want a full Israeli state, annex all the Palestinian land.
 
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linkgoron

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Israel has been thwarting the peace process in many ways for a looong time, including building settlements against UN agreements to keep making the Palestinian lands smaller and smaller.
Since 2005 Israel has no presence and no settlements in the Gaza Strip.

also in 2014 Palestinian leadership, with Hamas, agreed to acknowledge Israel as a state with a peace agreement. Israel only got more aggressive since then. The radical government and right wing wackos don't want peace. They want a full Israeli state, annex all the Palestinian land.
Here are the launched rockets by Hamas from the beginning of 2013 until July 2014 when Israel started Operation Protective Edge. Real peaceful (yellow is rockets, orange is mortar).
 

amenx

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