Israel: We Are At War

[Leeea]

Odd thing is, Hamas does not have a history of beheadings like ISIS. Even ISIS never beheaded children or babies due to what would be going way past their Islamic beliefs. From the article: Speaking from the scene of the bloodbath, i24News reporter Nicole Zedek said a soldier told her they had found "babies with heads cut off"..

Israel relies very heavily on disinformation. This a perfect opportunity for them to avail of that.

Hamas filmed themselves and posted it on the internet.


Israel doesn't need disinformation. It takes very little effort to find what Hamas posted. I watched a single video. It was enough. I believe it. Hamas were human once, but not any more.


edit several hours later:
to clarify, I did not see Hamas video of them beheading children.

I did not watch the entire video I found. It was of a teenage girl who had been raped being dragged passed what I think were the bodies of her family. One was a young boy, like 7. I stopped it after 10 seconds.

I am not going to try to find the video again. I am not going to go search for additional videos.


Every time I think about it I lose all empathy for anyone in Gaza. I know that isn't right. After a while logic sets in and I realize the people in Gaza don't have a choice in the matter, they are powerless in it all.

But for a person in Israel, who is not an Ocean away? I doubt they can be so dispassionate about it.

 

[linkgoron]

You think this all happens in a vacuum?

Of course not. I'm just saying that saying that Hamas agreed to some peace agreement or peace process while launching (at the time) a record number of rockets is disingenuous.

 

[dank69]

How did talking work out with Germany and Japan? If Israel doesn't respond, there will be more attacks.

Dude, the video states this is about a large force vs. a small force (insurgency type force), not conflicts between two or more major powers...

It also doesn't say there needs to be NO response. It said measured response.

 

[Roger Wilco]

Odd thing is, Hamas does not have a history of beheadings like ISIS. Even ISIS never beheaded children or babies due to what would be going way past their Islamic beliefs. From the article: Speaking from the scene of the bloodbath, i24News reporter Nicole Zedek said a soldier told her they had found "babies with heads cut off"..

Israel relies very heavily on disinformation. This a perfect opportunity for them to avail of that.

Watched again and you are correct. Reporter did not see beheaded babies. She should have asked to personally see it before reporting.

This is the kind of shit that needs to be confirmed before reporting. News agencies with an agenda will report this as fact without confirmation.

It seems pretty well corroborated.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1711799270716608855

 

[spacejamz]

You think this all happens in a vacuum?

Chart: 6,407 Palestinians and 308 Israelis Killed in Violence in Last 15 Years​

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Rocket launchers and other military targets in the middle of civilian populations, especially near hospitals and schools tend to not end well for the civilians around them, especially right after rockets are fired from them. But this is exactly what Hamas wants...why is there no outrage for putting civilians at risk like this for 20 years?

Maybe they could live with the Hamas leader in Qatar....

 

[Jaskalas]

But babies -- decapitated, babies? As in without a head? Like, decapitated decapitated? Shit, man.

Terrorists using human shields in an insanely dense urban environment.
We will certainly be seeing the Israeli war effort result in babies being burned, blown up, smashed and buried under the ruble of buildings.
But Hamas will continue to inflict atrocities on both sides until Gaza is captured and their demonic presence excised.

 

[kage69]

Yea, I remember seeing those. Scarred me forever.

Some asshole put a Chechen snuff clip on like 50 PCs in the computer lab when I was in college. I know what you mean.

 

[emperus]

Since 2005 Israel has no presence and no settlements in the Gaza Strip.


Here are the launched rockets by Hamas from the beginning of 2013 until July 2014 when Israel started Operation Protective Edge. Real peaceful (yellow is rockets, orange is mortar).
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Somewhat disingenuous. Israel is the controlling authority of Gaza. Nothing goes in or out without Israelis say so.

 

[rommelrommel]

Somewhat disingenuous. Israel is the controlling authority of Gaza. Nothing goes in or out without Israelis say so.

Isn't it somewhat disingenuous to keep forgetting about their border with Egypt?

 

[kage69]

Odd thing is, Hamas does not have a history of beheadings like ISIS. Even ISIS never beheaded children or babies due to what would be going way past their Islamic beliefs. From the article: Speaking from the scene of the bloodbath, i24News reporter Nicole Zedek said a soldier told her they had found "babies with heads cut off"..

Israel relies very heavily on disinformation. This a perfect opportunity for them to avail of that.

ISIS executed teenage boys with a chainsaw, just sayin.

 

[Leeea]

Terrorists using human shields in an insanely dense urban environment.
We will certainly be seeing the Israeli war effort result in babies being burned, blown up, smashed and buried under the ruble of buildings.
But Hamas will continue to inflict atrocities on both sides until Gaza is captured and their demonic presence excised.

Exactly.

Hamas happily murders Palestinian and Israeli alike. The fact Hamas uses the IDF to murder Palestinians is intentional on Hamas's part. Setting up a rocket launcher on top of a residential tower gives it a great firing position. Storing the rockets in the basement is ideal. Having the secondaries destroy the entire building can be blamed entirely on Israel.


Hamas cares not one wit about Palestinian life. All they care about is making Israel look bad. And they will murder as many Palestinian's as that will take.

 

[soulcougher73]

Isn't it somewhat disingenuous to keep forgetting about their border with Egypt?

From what i understand Egypt feels the same about Hamas as Isreal does. So they also control what comes in and out of Gaza, which is probably not much.

 

[aigomorla]

Plus there's that strike group heading that way to provide assistance.

I am pretty sure they will not engage.
Its more of a, "you bring this shit to our land, and we level you like we did in Afgan at a minute notice" proctor thing.

 

[Roger Wilco]

Biden was pretty explicitly and assertively pro-Israel in his speech. He distinguished Hamas from Palestine as well.

 

[Perknose]

Hamas filmed themselves and posted it on the internet.

Hamas filmed and published photos of Jewish babies with their heads cut off? Verified link, please. I'm not saying it didn't happen, just want verified proof, or any link purporting to show this, please. If you don't wish to broadly publish it here, then pm me with it or hide it here.

 

[amenx]

Hamas filmed and published photos of Jewish babies with their heads cut off? Verified link, please. I'm not saying it didn't happen, just want verified proof, or any link purporting to show this, please. If you don't wish to broadly publish it here, then pm me with it or hide it here.

I'm not saying it didnt happen either, but conflicts like this are going to be rife with disinformation by both sides. Propaganda is one of the most effective weapons of war and the Israelis are masters at wielding it. And in the age of AI generated imagery, we could be seeing a lot of crazy shit.

 

[Oyeve]

I'm not saying it didnt happen either, but conflicts like this are going to be rife with disinformation by both sides. Propaganda is one of the most effective weapons of war and the Israelis are masters at wielding it. And in the age of AI generated imagery, we could be seeing a lot of crazy shit.

Yeah, just look at the NY post site.

 

[Young Grasshopper]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1711820606402904208

 

[Young Grasshopper]

Hamas filmed and published photos of Jewish babies with their heads cut off? Verified link, please. I'm not saying it didn't happen, just want verified proof, or any link purporting to show this, please. If you don't wish to broadly publish it here, then pm me with it or hide it here.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1711774401463550026

 

[rommelrommel]

This is a possibly more credible source, but I still am not convinced.

https://x.com/margothaddad/status/1711756690574479651?s=20

 

[Oyeve]

This is a possibly more credible source, but I still am not convinced.

https://x.com/margothaddad/status/1711756690574479651?s=20

X is about as credible as Truth IMO.

 

[rommelrommel]

https://x.com/margothaddad/status/1711756690574479651?s=20

X is about as credible as Truth IMO.

Uh, X is just a way to transmit information. The poster is a fairly credible journalist.

 

[K1052]

Israel taking faster delivery of 1k SDBs from Boeing.

Ukraine will be getting these, eventually, packaged on GLSDB but Boeing has capacity for upwards of 10k units annually so not really a concern we're going to run out.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1711799678528893112

 

[Oyeve]

https://x.com/margothaddad/status/1711756690574479651?s=20


Uh, X is just a way to transmit information. The poster is a fairly credible journalist.

I was referring to X in general, not your provided link or the journalist.

 

[amenx]

The story of the murdered or decapped babies (if true) would basically give the IDF a green light to raze Gaza to the ground with tens or 100s of thousands of casualties with less concern for public opinion. How incredibly convenient for them.