Israel: We Are At War

[emperus]

I literally gave you a picture of the captioning and you’re still misrepresenting what he said.

He said if people don’t recognise him AND they keep using violence and terrorism that their heads should be chopped off.

Still pretty barbaric, but not at all “ I will chop off the heads of people who don’t recognise my right to build here.”

Honestly I'm a little lost here. This concept doesn't seem hard for me. So maybe I'm missing something. Help me with these questions so I can get a better understanding where we are differing.

1.) Do you think we should be determining land ownership on someone's belief that God told them that they have a right to that land?

2.) If someone illegally takes something that you own. You tell them you do not recognize them as the rightful owner. You try to use other means to get your property back. Do you think they have a right to "cut off your head"?

3.) Do you think it is ok for anyone to threaten to cut off someone's head for any reason?

 

[aigomorla]

Sounds like the Kibbutz have armories and some where just caught flat footed?


Also there where quite a few armed security at that rave, i'm not sure about that supposed tank, it cut's away instantly and never re-appears

This would totally twist the news of HAMA's in Israel's favor if it was true. (has not been proven to be false or true)

This is why I said we are not allowed to judge unless we are on one side or another.
The only things we are allowed to judge are the innocents especially children who should not be stuck in the middle of this period.

We already give then almost 4B/year and their GDP is 29th in the world. Ukraine's GDP is 58th. They shouldn't need it. IMO this aid package is for show.

FML... i don't think we can afford to fund proxies of 2 wars.
We have domestic issues on a biblical level already like the organized shop lifting, refugee's, and the large recession on top.

 

[Leeea]

2.) Do you think if someone illegally takes something that you own. And if they do not recognize you as the rightful owner of that property and they try to use other means to get their property back, you have a right to "cut off their heads"?

This question doesn't make sense to me, could you rephrase it?

I think you wanted to say you instead of they in the second sentence.

 

[Jaskalas]

Earlier reports of drones from Lebanon were FALSE.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1712142609043316809

 

[Roger Wilco]

This would totally twist the news of HAMA's in Israel's favor if it was true. (has not been proven to be false or true)

This is why I said we are not allowed to judge unless we are on one side or another.
The only things we are allowed to judge are the innocents especially children who should not be stuck in the middle of this period.



FML... i don't think we can afford to fund proxies of 2 wars.
We have domestic issues on a biblical level already like the organized shop lifting, refugee's, and the large recession on top.

The invasion of Ukraine has been ludicrously beneficial for the U.S. military and it’s cost them next to nothing.

 

[Zor Prime]

American death toll rises to 22 and 17 unaccounted.

 

[emperus]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1711923194133708990

 

[Leeea]

Egypt warned Israel days before Hamas struck, US committee chairman says

But PM Benjamin Netanyahu describes any claim Israel received a specific warning as "totally fake news".

www.bbc.com

Egypt warned Israel days before Hamas struck, US committee chairman says

-sigh-

 

[Leeea]

fake news platform

we are seeing well produced fake media productions on X now, logo-ed and everything.

Do you have a c-span link or something non X?

 

[HomerJS]

This would totally twist the news of HAMA's in Israel's favor if it was true. (has not been proven to be false or true)

This is why I said we are not allowed to judge unless we are on one side or another.
The only things we are allowed to judge are the innocents especially children who should not be stuck in the middle of this period.



FML... i don't think we can afford to fund proxies of 2 wars.
We have domestic issues on a biblical level already like the organized shop lifting, refugee's, and the large recession on top.

Can you stop posting shit with lies in it? We are not in a recession and we haven't been in one during this administration.

A policy disagreement is one thing but when you outright lie every fucking thing you say loses all credibility.

How about some money to stop the #1 domestic terror threat?

 

[dank69]

I quoted someone who linked CNN.

CNN is fake news now. Got it.

Like you didn't already think CNN was fake news? You make me laugh.

 

[emperus]

we are seeing well produced fake media productions on X now, logo-ed and everything.

Do you have a c-span link or something non X?

Understand. I would normally post original links.
Here is the full hearing from the PBS Youtube page.

 

[amenx]

More about Major David Ben Zion, the radical (genocidal) settler who was the main source of this unverified claim:

There is no proof Palestinian fighters ‘beheaded’ babies. The only source is a radical settler.

U.S. and international media outlets are repeating Israeli claims that Palestinian fighters “beheaded” babies. These unverified claims aren’t just sloppy journalism — they are being used to justify a massacre.

mondoweiss.net

 

[emperus]

This question doesn't make sense to me, could you rephrase it?

I think you wanted to say you instead of they in the second sentence.

That was terribly written. Thanks.

 

[Thunder 57]

FML... i don't think we can afford to fund proxies of 2 wars.
We have domestic issues on a biblical level already like the organized shop lifting, refugee's, and the large recession on top.

We shouldn't be funding proxy wars IMHO. Ukraine has got more than enough by now. Israel has plenty of money and weapons.

Organized shoplifting happens in places where LEO's have been spread too thin and don't bother since the culprits will be right back on the streets. They are not refugees, they are migrants. They are overwhelming our cities and states. Recession? I guess by definition but things could be much worse. We shall if that comes to be.

 

[Abwx]

That second link is obvious deceptive imagery persuasion aka DIP.


It may not even be from the same location or year.

French paper Le Monde made an inquiry about the festival with a little video, there s one tank displayed and they said that it was of no help against very mobile fighters, but it was used as a cover by both civilians and a few security servicemens.

There s was 15 security servicemens lightly armed and with no helmets starting the gun fight while the crowd was still there, dunno who started the gunning but polices uniforms being clearly visible they were automaticaly a target.

Vidéo. Enquête vidéo : la reconstitution du massacre perpétré par le Hamas lors d’une rave-party en Israël

Vidéo - A partir de l’analyse des images tournées sur place, « Le Monde » a reconstitué le déroulement du massacre perpétré par le Hamas lors d’une rave-party en Israël, le 7 octobre.

www.lemonde.fr

 

[brycejones]

We shouldn't be funding proxy wars IMHO. Ukraine has got more than enough by now. Israel has plenty of money and weapons.

Organized shoplifting happens in places where LEO's have been spread too thin and don't bother since the culprits will be right back on the streets. They are not refugees, they are migrants. They are overwhelming our cities and states. Recession? I guess by definition but things could be much worse. We shall if that comes to be.

There he is…..

 

[Thunder 57]

There he is…..

I actually did find your post funny, so that wasn't a sarcastic "haha". But I will not derail this thread.

 

[amenx]

I dont think this would ever happen, but reveals how typical, extremist zealots in govt think.

Israeli official calls for "doomsday" nuclear missile option

The lawmaker said the time has passed to have "mercy" on militant terrorists.

www.newsweek.com

 

[Jaskalas]

More about Major David Ben Zion, the radical (genocidal) settler who was the main source of this unverified claim:

I already provided more than one Israeli government source. I provided CNN coverage.
Yet you still come up with this shit?

Do you want the photos posted here?
Or will you take our President's word for it?

Biden says he has seen ‘pictures of terrorists beheading children’ ​

This side show is f'ing settled.
Yes, the massacre occurred less than a week ago.
Yes, children were among the slaughtered.
That's what happens when you storm homes with 1,500+ terrorist soldiers and killing almost everyone on sight.
Those are the crimes of Hamas. Stop trying to argue otherwise. As if the massacre hangs on one detail, amidst all the death.

​

Nicole Zedeck, of international news channel i24NEWS, addressed skepticism over her reporting that quickly spread Tuesday while on “The Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show.”​

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“I witnessed some of those scenes with my own eyes as we were walking through this community that may be a quarter of a mile from the Gaza border, the atrocities that were still left behind, children, cribs, baby cribs overturned on their side, splattered with blood. Horrible, horrible images," she said.​

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She also spoke to a deputy commander who was on the scene.​

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“There’s no words to describe what they’ve seen,” Zedeck. “I mean, babies’ heads cut off. That’s what they encountered when they came there. So as horrible as it is and I wish that it wasn’t true. And I see how those images and those words are hard to comprehend because it’s hard to comprehend how anyone could commit such heinous, heinous crimes.​

​

"But that’s exactly what happened in just one of the kibbutz communities.”​

 

[linkgoron]

I dont think this would ever happen, but reveals how typical, extremist zealots in govt think.

Israeli official calls for "doomsday" nuclear missile option

The lawmaker said the time has passed to have "mercy" on militant terrorists.

www.newsweek.com

The distance between the center of Gaza and the closest Israeli city is ~8 miles. There are multiple cities in a 20 mile radius... Even if Israel wanted to, they wouldn't, unless they want to bomb themselves.

Ignoring the above, Tally Gotliv is basically a worse MTG. She's more dumb than zealot, and has been sanctioned by her own party multiple times.

 

[KMFJD]

I already provided more than one Israeli government source. I provided CNN coverage.
Yet you still come up with this shit?

Do you want the photos posted here?
Or will you take our President's word for it?

Biden says he has seen ‘pictures of terrorists beheading children’ ​

This side show is f'ing settled.
Yes, the massacre occurred less than a week ago.
Yes, children were among the slaughtered.
That's what happens when you storm homes with 1,500+ terrorist soldiers and killing almost everyone on sight.
Those are the crimes of Hamas. Stop trying to argue otherwise. As if the massacre hangs on one detail, amidst all the death.

​

Nicole Zedeck, of international news channel i24NEWS, addressed skepticism over her reporting that quickly spread Tuesday while on “The Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show.”​

​

“I witnessed some of those scenes with my own eyes as we were walking through this community that may be a quarter of a mile from the Gaza border, the atrocities that were still left behind, children, cribs, baby cribs overturned on their side, splattered with blood. Horrible, horrible images," she said.​

​

She also spoke to a deputy commander who was on the scene.​

​

“There’s no words to describe what they’ve seen,” Zedeck. “I mean, babies’ heads cut off. That’s what they encountered when they came there. So as horrible as it is and I wish that it wasn’t true. And I see how those images and those words are hard to comprehend because it’s hard to comprehend how anyone could commit such heinous, heinous crimes.​

​

"But that’s exactly what happened in just one of the kibbutz communities.”​

Remarks by President Biden on the Terrorist Attacks in Israel | The White House

State Dining Room 2:24 P.M. EDT THE PRESIDENT: Good afternoon. You know, there are moments in this life — and I mean this literally — when the pure, unadulterated evil is unleashed on this world. The people of Israel lived through one such moment this weekend. The bloody hands of the terrorist...

www.whitehouse.gov

his actual statement and not a fox/nypost opinion of what they think he said, no where does he say he saw these images

/edit i was going on an earlier statement he had put out, no he definitely said he saw it, i believe the video is timed right but if not, just past the 17:00 mark

 

[brycejones]

I already provided more than one Israeli government source. I provided CNN coverage.
Yet you still come up with this shit?

Do you want the photos posted here?
Or will you take our President's word for it?

Biden says he has seen ‘pictures of terrorists beheading children’ ​

This side show is f'ing settled.
Yes, the massacre occurred less than a week ago.
Yes, children were among the slaughtered.
That's what happens when you storm homes with 1,500+ terrorist soldiers and killing almost everyone on sight.
Those are the crimes of Hamas. Stop trying to argue otherwise. As if the massacre hangs on one detail, amidst all the death.

​

Nicole Zedeck, of international news channel i24NEWS, addressed skepticism over her reporting that quickly spread Tuesday while on “The Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show.”​

​

“I witnessed some of those scenes with my own eyes as we were walking through this community that may be a quarter of a mile from the Gaza border, the atrocities that were still left behind, children, cribs, baby cribs overturned on their side, splattered with blood. Horrible, horrible images," she said.​

​

She also spoke to a deputy commander who was on theene.​

​

“There’s no words to describe what they’ve seen,” Zedeck. “I mean, babies’ heads cut off. That’s what they encountered when they came there. So as horrible as it is and I wish that it wasn’t true. And I see how those images and those words are hard to comprehend because it’s hard to comprehend how anyone could commit such heinous, heinous crimes.​

​

"But that’s exactly what happened in just one of the kibbutz communities.”​

You are frequently taken in by misinformation.......

 

[KMFJD]

a little bit of good news

Hamas video appears to show release of woman, two children

Hamas’s Qassam Brigades has released a video appearing to show the release of a female captive and two children.

www.aljazeera.com

https://twitter.com/x/status/1712208662490476811

 

[Abwx]

I already provided more than one Israeli government source. I provided CNN coverage.
Yet you still come up with this shit?

Do you want the photos posted here?
Or will you take our President's word for it?

Biden says he has seen ‘pictures of terrorists beheading children’ ​

This side show is f'ing settled.
Yes, the massacre occurred less than a week ago.
Yes, children were among the slaughtered.
That's what happens when you storm homes with 1,500+ terrorist soldiers and killing almost everyone on sight.
Those are the crimes of Hamas. Stop trying to argue otherwise. As if the massacre hangs on one detail, amidst all the death.

​

Nicole Zedeck, of international news channel i24NEWS, addressed skepticism over her reporting that quickly spread Tuesday while on “The Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show.”​

​

“I witnessed some of those scenes with my own eyes as we were walking through this community that may be a quarter of a mile from the Gaza border, the atrocities that were still left behind, children, cribs, baby cribs overturned on their side, splattered with blood. Horrible, horrible images," she said.​

​

She also spoke to a deputy commander who was on the scene.​

​

“There’s no words to describe what they’ve seen,” Zedeck. “I mean, babies’ heads cut off. That’s what they encountered when they came there. So as horrible as it is and I wish that it wasn’t true. And I see how those images and those words are hard to comprehend because it’s hard to comprehend how anyone could commit such heinous, heinous crimes.​

​

"But that’s exactly what happened in just one of the kibbutz communities.”​

Lots of words from nicole Zedeck but not a single pic even a blured one...

i24News was created by a french/israeli mogul who swim in troubled waters and who is currently under investigation in France for financial irregularities, according to israeli paper Haaretz this channel is a proxy with Netanyaou sometimes giving himself instructions about what should be publicised, it s well known to be a propaganda machine :

MK urges probe of i24News over report it tilted coverage to curry PM’s favor

Democratic Camp chairman calls on attorney general to open investigation into allegations channel changed reporting in effort to receive license to broadcast in Israel

www.timesofisrael.com