Nah, if you bomb an apartment building, you intend to kill babies.
It was always going to be true.For what it's worth, Nicolle Wallace's show on MSNBC just showed a single image of a dead Israeli baby in a crib that was soaked in blood. The image was blurred above the shoulders on purpose, and while you couldn't tell if the head was severed, it was at an unholy angle that would indicate that either the reports are true, or they were auditioning for the new Exorcist movie.
Unintentional war crimes are still war crimes, they're also still horrifying, I don't particularly care what the intent was. And to use the intent of war criming by one to justify/accept/whatever fucking word someone wants to use for it for another.The difference is one of intent.
An attack specifically targeting an infant is one thing.
An attack on a Hamas rocket team that is fleeing down the stairwell of a residential tower they just fired from is another thing entirely. Both are going to result in a dead infant.
But the intent of the two attacks are entirely different.
It was always going to be true.
The IDF soldiers doing the body recovery had no need to lie. It was awful enough without this detail. But they also were not going to put their dead on display.
There's potentially a good reason to not release the info as well. If you never give your enemy an off-ramp, your only real recourse is perpetual conflict and eventual genocide. If you give them an 'out', and if the populace finds that out palatable, you can end the conflict earlier and everyone, save the MIC, is happy.Right. I always figured it was a true story for a few reasons.
First, like you said there wasn't really a "need" to add that detail to all the other numerous confirmed acts that were also heinous. It does nothing to move a needle that is already as good as pegged. Second, once the admin announced it I figured they weren't going that far out over their skis on it. Just that they'd been read in before they were made public. Third, and related to #1, look at all the other confirmed acts that took place. Video of an unarmed girl hiding under the bumper of a car being executed point blank with an AK47. The checkpoint video of a car being absolutely lit the fuck up with gunfire. I didn't think for one minute that if these same attackers would come across infants that they'd behave any differently.
I think #2 might have forced the release BTW. Just to prove everyone wrong that was calling it a bluff.
This is like discussing who threw the first stone in history. I know very little but it seems to me that part of the Jewish religion is the belief the land of Israel what’s a gift of God for the Jews. In this way, in a religion owned state, inequality of citizenship is easy to justify.The Zionist Movement was established during the late 19th century. For example, Tel Aviv was founded in 1909, even before the first world war. When Hitler was appointed as chancellor, there were around 200,000 Jews living in Palestine. I'm not saying the Jews were a majority (they were not), but it's not like the Jewish people had no connection with Israel, or didn't have a significant population there.
I have feeling this is why President Biden tried to walk back comments about the babies. It isn’t that it wasn’t true but he quickly realized it could escalate and legitimize Israeli atrocities in Gaza in the future.There's potentially a good reason to not release the info as well. If you never give your enemy an off-ramp, your only real recourse is perpetual conflict and eventual genocide. If you give them an 'out', and if the populace finds that out palatable, you can end the conflict earlier and everyone, save the MIC, is happy.
Decapitating babies is the kind of thing that people want absolute gallons of blood for, and extends conflicts in perpetuity.
I drank the blood of one at the last Dem pizza parlor basement bash. 🦎Have you done that? Commendable.
Well, if it was for a good cause maybe it was alright.I drank the blood of one at the last Dem pizza parlor basement bash. 🦎
Who is the one committing the war crime?Unintentional war crimes are still war crimes, they're also still horrifying, I don't particularly care what the intent was. And to use the intent of war criming by one to justify/accept/whatever fucking word someone wants to use for it for another.
That deal coming apart was the worse thing ever.It all just sucks all the way round. Almost wish we could carve out a Palestine and have two state solution 🙄
Both are. A rocket team housed in a hospital isn't a valid military target, unless you can take out the team without the rest of the hospital. If you can't do that, you keep the rocket from reaching its target. If you can't do that, you soak the blow and find a way to mitigate the damage. Or, war crimes.Who is the one committing the war crime?
The Hamas rocket team launching off a top of a civilian residential tower at a civilian target?
or the Israel pilot trying to stop said rocket team from being able to get another launch off?
The laws of war say the rocket team is a valid military target.
Both are. A rocket team housed in a hospital isn't a valid military target, unless you can take out the team without the rest of the hospital. If you can't do that, you keep the rocket from reaching its target. If you can't do that, you soak the blow and find a way to mitigate the damage. Or, war crimes.
All of the above is with the understanding that morality is subjective, and other individuals in other cultures may not ascribe to the same sense of morality as others.
Do you think the Zionists ever wanted a two state solution?That deal coming apart was the worse thing ever.
Except that morality isn't subjective. It's built into our genes. The notion that it is subjective leads to the potential justification of anything. The problem is that because morality is real and that knowledge is instinctive, whatever one is conditioned to believe is morality growing up takes on an air of certainty. Subjective truth gets substituted for the real thing and becomes fanatical pm;u because real truth does exists. All forms of belief that we call truth are delusional forms of isms. Truth is a state of conscious awareness and the spontaneity that flows from it.Both are. A rocket team housed in a hospital isn't a valid military target, unless you can take out the team without the rest of the hospital. If you can't do that, you keep the rocket from reaching its target. If you can't do that, you soak the blow and find a way to mitigate the damage. Or, war crimes.
All of the above is with the understanding that morality is subjective, and other individuals in other cultures may not ascribe to the same sense of morality as others.
Netanyahu benefits too. Gives him the ability to manufacture consent for wiping out the Palestinians when they're represented by Hamas lunatics instead of the secular PLO that Hamas crushed.Israel is walking right into it.
stupid stupid stupid.
Hamas is an Iranian proxy and Iran is the only one benefiting here. Right when Israel was about to normalize relations with its neighbors. It is so obvious. Just stop and think for a moment.
Who gave Hamas the rockets? Who paid their salaries? Wake up Israel, Gaza isn't your real enemy.
That shit died when Netanyahu drummed up some good old stochastic terrorism to assassinate PM Rabin.It all just sucks all the way round. Almost wish we could carve out a Palestine and have two state solution 🙄