Because I accept that I can never know anything for sure, including what my senses send electrical impulses to my brain regarding, so I cannot be certain that I'm right about anything. I can be sure of things though, based on my experiences at least.Yes we will disagree. All that I can ask then, if truth is truly subjective and not something we feel a certainty about within, that it really does exist, why did you describe this disagreement as something you believe rather than as you claim it should be, just your personal subjective opinion? You may claim semantics but I think it goes much deeper than that.
without the Iraqi logistic train the PMU is not going to achieve much.Yeah, this is gonna spread.
You accept you can’t be sure of anything but you are sure anyway based on experience? That’s what I said. What I said was that your experience is based on conditioning you have experienced but do not remember, a system of morality to which you were forced to adopt to survive and now lies unexamined but the unconscious motivation for everything you believe and supplanting the natural morality you were born with that had it not been fucked over early on you would have manifested instead.Because I accept that I can never know anything for sure, including what my senses send electrical impulses to my brain regarding, so I cannot be certain that I'm right about anything. I can be sure of things though, based on my experiences at least.
I don't have to watch your link to tell you shouldn't be surprised.I was surprised to see that there are some in the government that are to the RIGHT of Netanyahu.
Regardless of what Israel does or because of it. If the Palestinian people had been living in paradise the last fifty years how many young people there would be interested in going on a baby killing spree. We create what we fear and nobody who grows up in a healthy environment is interested in killing children. The monsters we fear are products of our own rage.Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iran's only purpose for existence is to eradicate Israel and the Jewish State. Regardless of what Israel does. That is what they are up against. Damned if they do and damned is they don't.
What was Hamas thinking? For over three decades, it has had the same brutal idea of victory
In the three and a half decades since it began as an underground militant group, Hamas has pursued a consistently violent strategy aimed at rolling back Israeli rule.apnews.com
To add to my commentary above, on weighing atrocities....But wouldn’t slaughtering innocent PAL civilians just create more future terrorists? thus never ending from that front as well.
I guess I should have said 'high ranking' members of the gov't - like #2!! Sure, members of the Knesset, but at the top ranks - that did surprise me. That said, I don't usually follow Israeli politics with any kind of consistency - kind of the same with most European countries.I don't have to watch your link to tell you shouldn't be surprised.
Netanyahu is more of a Nixon-like opportunist and amoral "pragmatist" whose main ideology is "getting elected" and "staying in power" who needed the ultra-orthodox fundamentalist Zionists to form a ruling coallition and regain power.
Or, there is no natural morality, and that's a fairy tale you tell yourself to avoid the reality that morality really is subjective, and we're just making shit up to try to make civilization work, and there really are people out there that just have no problem with killing babies.You accept you can’t be sure of anything but you are sure anyway based on experience? That’s what I said. What I said was that your experience is based on conditioning you have experienced but do not remember, a system of morality to which you were forced to adopt to survive and now lies unexamined but the unconscious motivation for everything you believe and supplanting the natural morality you were born with that had it not been fucked over early on you would have manifested instead.
It’s all still there, hidden by fear. What we call experience is the ego, the survival of a delusion art self, a self that can say that those who wish to kill our babies need to be repressed with such force and violence and dehumanization they will eventually break and commit that kind of act and give us a reason to justify taking their land.
Those important cabinet positions were their price for joining his majority coalition, for putting him over the top. Fragmentation into so many parties gives would be coalition partners, often relatively tiny in and of themselves, disproportionate bargaining power.I guess I should have said 'high ranking' members of the gov't - like #2!!
Then we should observe a lot more people killing babies than we do.Or, there is no natural morality, and that's a fairy tale you tell yourself to avoid the reality that morality really is subjective, and we're just making shit up to try to make civilization work, and there really are people out there that just have no problem with killing babies.
Dr. Feel-good tries to give the impression that Hamas was a creature contrived by the Israelis. Hamas arose out of the legitimate anger of the Palestinian people with the corruption of the Palestine Authority. That guy administers bullshit like it's the only medicine in his doctor's bag.A brief history on HAMAS:
No, just most people are cowards, and are willing to follow what the rest of society suggests, rather than go their own way. How many people here witnessed a child in their own youth tormenting an animal in some way? Cuz everyone I know knew someone like that growing up.Then we should observe a lot more people killing babies than we do.
The Israelis have been killing civilians and journalists for years and years now. This is just more blatant and larger scale. I mean they created an apartheid state, That doesn't happen without serious violence and oppression.How would you respond instead?
Or, there is no natural morality, and that's a fairy tale you tell yourself to avoid the reality that morality really is subjective, and we're just making shit up to try to make civilization work, and there really are people out there that just have no problem with killing babies.
Dr. Feel-good tries to give the impression that Hamas was a creature contrived by the Israelis. Hamas arose out of the legitimate anger of the Palestinian people with the corruption of the Palestine Authority. That guy administers bullshit like it's the only medicine in his doctor's bag.
In a military context this model, also known as ‘divide and rule’, represents a strategy of dividing a large enemy force into smaller groups that have less power and can be controlled as a result. At worst, this might involve engaging with an opposing force to sabotage alliances, elevate minority groups to split them from the broader whole, and generally foster distrust between them.
Just say an article on Google News, didn't yet read and have no idea if true, but says that the Israelis have already fired on busses of people they ordered to leave. Can't now at the time of this edit find where I saw it.The Israelis have been killing civilians and journalists for years and years now. This is just more blatant and larger scale. I mean they created an apartheid state, That doesn't happen without serious violence and oppression.
We knew who the Israelis were already on the hard right that has taken over the government. There are two sides of the same coin with Hamas except they actually have first world problems while the Palestinians have third world problems.
I fully expected the Zionist apologist here to defend Israel leveling Gaza which is what they will do for a bit, civilians and everybody inside because where you going to move a million people?
This is all par for the course. And I still love how the zionists look at this in a vacuum as if creating an apartheid state over decades is not going to have any blowback.
From those three links, even the summary says 'may be', 'supports', and 'possible', hardly definitive.The Neurobiology of Moral Behavior: Review and Neuropsychiatric Implications
Morality may be innate to the human brain. This review examines the neurobiological evidence from research involving functional magnetic resonance imaging of normal subjects, developmental sociopathy, acquired sociopathy from brain lesions, and frontotemporal ...www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
As Babies, We Knew Morality
New research supports the understanding that all people are born with a sense of good and bad. What does that say about altruism, community, and the capacity to kill one another?www.theatlantic.com
The neurobiology of moral sense: facts or hypotheses? - Annals of General Psychiatry
One of the most intriguing frontiers of current neuroscientific research is represented by the investigation of the possible neural substrates of morality. The assumption is that in humans an innate moral sense would exist. If this is true, with no doubt it should be regulated by specific brain...annals-general-psychiatry.biomedcentral.com
I guess by fairy tale you mean science.
Because we are fucking predators, and boys tend to explore that to some degree. You are just making up shit at this point. We obviously have a strong natural bias against killing our our kin - otherwise the human race would not have survived. Hell, we clearly have a natural bias against killing our neighbors - or, again, the human race wouldn't have survived. WTH man, you having a bad day?How many people here witnessed a child in their own youth tormenting an animal in some way? Cuz everyone I know knew someone like that growing up.
We survived by protecting our own, and generally by out competing our neighbors, at least until we figured out trade. We, culturally, have benefited from the longest period of peace that humanity has a whole has seen for entirety of human history, due to developing the most advanced and destructive weapon we could figure out. Bias against killing our kin? Like 90% of scientific advancement is finding better ways to kill, or at least get advantage over, our kin.Because we are fucking predators, and boys tend to explore that to some degree. You are just making up shit at this point. We obviously have a strong natural bias against killing our our kin - otherwise the human race would not have survived. Hell, we clearly have a natural bias against killing our neighbors - or, again, the human race wouldn't have survived. WTH man, you having a bad day?
That's the way with science. I cane by my understanding via a different route. I used to believe there was a thing called objective truth but everything in the world that I looked at said it was simply bullshit and subjective. I had to give up on everything I believed and surrender to the fact that the world and life itself is totally without meaning, that all the objective and the subjective were just lies we tell ourselves. The truth that I know I can't give you. It was all that remained after everything that could be taken from me was removed. Who you are is what is left and it is joy beyond belief, not what is written on the blackboard but the blackboard itself, a blackboard that is a mirror of everything that is. What is there but the desire to share, a space so vast it contains all that there is.From those three links, even the summary says 'may be', 'supports', and 'possible', hardly definitive.
What do you protect when you and everything are one and the same thing? Would you agree that if some how for the past 10 to 60 years all the Palestinian and Jewish babies born were somehow switched just before birth, do you not think those children wouldn't be out to kill their own parents on the other side? There is no 'other'. There is only us. But no, we are what we were programmed to become not who we really are. Geneticists theorize humanity went through a bottle neck some time back where there were only 10,000 humans alive on the planet. We are killing our own family members.We survived by protecting our own, and generally by out competing our neighbors, at least until we figured out trade. We, culturally, have benefited from the longest period of peace that humanity has a whole has seen for entirety of human history, due to developing the most advanced and destructive weapon we could figure out. Bias against killing our kin? Like 90% of scientific advancement is finding better ways to kill, or at least get advantage over, our kin.
We can't even stop arguing and fighting long enough to halt the destruction of our habitat, which we know definitely will kill us all.
Captain obvious enters the thread says something obvious.Ths was is going to be horrible for both sides.
I feel for everyone on both sides, but especially the Palestine children, and the innocent. They are going to be crushed by this war.