Israel: We Are At War

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Roger Wilco

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Yep - and bombing South Gaza after urging the populace in the North to head south. The Israelis have gone insane with rage. Oh, and the IDF bombed Rafah again.

If Israel’s goal is to escalate global antisemitism by an order of magnitude…this may be how to do it.
 

KMFJD

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considering Russia has racked up a few 100,000 dead and kidnapped, that seems difficult to believe.

and being kidnapped into Russia is a fate likely worse then death.




i did say children
 

amenx

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So you’re an unread idiot. Thought as much. Didn’t bother to investigate at all other than to reinforce your misguided beliefs. Gotcha cuck.
Sorry, never had much interest in exploring the way out, wackier elements of conspiracy theories. Glad you spared a moment of your time to educate me. Apparently what is generally known or assumed about the Illuminati is not enough unless one includes the anti-semitism angle, which although seems dwarfed by so many other aspects, groups, factions, cabals, nations, individuals, etc, whom were non-Jewish, its this particular association of the Jews that renders mere mention of the Illuminati to be an anti-semitic act. And that no one can associate bankers, illuminati symbols, bearded elite hunched over monopoly boards into murals or art without being labelled as anti-semites.

What else? Oh, opposing Zionism is considered by Zionists to be anti-semitic and is now being pushed into a new definition of anti-semitism by the IHRA. What next? Criticizing any actions by the Israeli state that may even involve ethnic cleansing or genocide? Yep, that too. Professors at universities have lost their jobs on account of that and have been labelled anti-semites. See where all this is going? Its basically the weaponizing of the term to oust political leaders, educators, even entertainers from their work or to silence them permanently. Corbyn in my view was a victim of that.

edit: also meant to quote/address @mikeymikec in this.
 
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KMFJD

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yes that is a war crime, but don't worry, the fascists found an quick&easy alibi (works all the time, who are you going to believe? those evil Palestinians we they have been dehumanizing?)


 

Ajay

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If Israel’s goal is to escalate global antisemitism by an order of magnitude…this may be how to do it.
Probably one of HAMAS' goals. Also, make Israel a pariah state as they kill 10s or even 100s of thousands of Palestinian civilians.

There may be an Iran connect vis-a-vis an attempt to derail the growing bilateral agreements between Israel and Saudi Arabia. We'll have to wait a while for intel on that.
 

KMFJD

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Also fuel has run out in all hospitals, no more electricity

that WarMonitor guy says that Hamas said they will release all hostages in an hour if Israel stops bombing

 

Zor Prime

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Also fuel has run out in all hospitals, no more electricity

that WarMonitor guy says that Hamas said they will release all hostages in an hour if Israel stops bombing

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Be surprised that Hamas official survives the night. Odds of the Hamas leadership across the board agreeing to that is about 0.01% -- I'd love to be wrong.
 

MrSquished

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Israel has been a terrorist nation for years now. It's kind of hard not to be when you create an apartheid state .It's just state sponsored terrorism under the guise of whatever propaganda they want to use.

This attack is not surprising at all and the Zionist bloodlust and the pro zionist bloodlust, which we see in this thread, They don't honestly give a shit they don't see these Palestinians as humans anymore. But deserving.
 

Oyeve

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Israel has been a terrorist nation for years now. It's kind of hard not to be when you create an apartheid state .It's just state sponsored terrorism under the guise of whatever propaganda they want to use.

This attack is not surprising at all and the Zionist bloodlust and the pro zionist bloodlust, which we see in this thread, They don't honestly give a shit they don't see these Palestinians as humans anymore. But deserving.
And the world lets them. I am so sick of it.
 

Pens1566

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Call me sort of a skeptic, but I'll wait until there's proof that IDF munitions caused it and not ... <checks notes> ... former water pipes cut up into munitions that either misfired or really missed their target.
 

Moonbeam

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"At least 100 years" is putting it mildly. There have been conspiracy theories involving Jews and various shadowy groups, real and fictional, since medieval Europe. So far as Illuminati in particular, IIRC it goes back to 18th century Germany, so that's probably also how long "the Jews" have allegedly been connected to it.
In my opinion if two people know the truth there will be a secret society. As I understand the secret that secret societies are willing to share it is that truth can't be kept from those who deserve it nor given to those who don't. However, if you look at what is happening to truth right now as our society grows more paranoid conservative the way that 'not-deserving-truth' works out is in fact tremendous hostility to anything that resembles it. And in the past in many places like Inquisitional Spain the smell of truth about a person would be a death sentence. Those who know would surly have hidden themselves most likely, I would imagine, as conventional thinkers or ignorant fools, as one is very much like the other.

Additionally, if one were interested in passing on the truth to others it could not be done openly because the average person would already be deeply blinded by the surrounding ignorance of his or her culture and might report any deviance as heretical behavior to the authorities. So if this speculation is of any relevance it would follow that truth would have to be slowly introduced in stages. This would consists of rights and stages of initialization, maybe something like 32 degrees. And all of that inner wisdom being transmitted would be symbolically represented by things like compasses and squares etc. And all the secret hand shakes etc. or wearing of various paraphernalia would indicate the presence of someone you could trust, a friend.i
In this way, since the truth can't be kept from those who deserve it, any worthy person of sincerity of heart and with total disregard of religion would feel an instinctive pull from any source radiating it.

Thus I would say, since I believe there is a truth that can be experienced that is self evident as to its veracity, any secret society like free masonry would be full of friends of every race religion and color. I am sure that owing to the Jewish religion and an emphasis on scholarship education and the remembrance of traditions, Jews would be plentiful in deserving of wisdom and pivotal in its transmission. And of course they would also be hated for that being culturally somewhat more immune to the popular stupidity of the culture around them, as we liberals are today in the USA.
 

Zor Prime

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Biden is in Israel come Wednesday ... guess we'll see if he manages to reel Israel in, or emboldens them on the path they're on. 2024 election might be affected come Thursday.
 

emperus

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Israel has been a terrorist nation for years now. It's kind of hard not to be when you create an apartheid state .It's just state sponsored terrorism under the guise of whatever propaganda they want to use.

This attack is not surprising at all and the Zionist bloodlust and the pro zionist bloodlust, which we see in this thread, They don't honestly give a shit they don't see these Palestinians as humans anymore. But deserving.
 

Oyeve

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Biden is in Israel come Wednesday ... guess we'll see if he manages to reel Israel in, or emboldens them on the path they're on. 2024 election might be affected come Thursday.
I highly doubt it. The ONLY way to reel in israel is stop the US from funding them. They keep saying they have a great force, well, let them take care of themselves. It's not like they are a poor third world country. Hell, we don't even know how many nukes they have.
 

Ajay

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I highly doubt it. The ONLY way to reel in israel is stop the US from funding them. They keep saying they have a great force, well, let them take care of themselves. It's not like they are a poor third world country. Hell, we don't even know how many nukes they have.
Estimates vary. 100-200 tactical.
 
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GodisanAtheist

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Be surprised that Hamas official survives the night. Odds of the Hamas leadership across the board agreeing to that is about 0.01% -- I'd love to be wrong.

- On the contrary, I think Hamas is playing this way smarter than anyone is giving them credit for. They're hitting their goals, sprint goals, and strech goals here:

- Killed a bunch of Israelis
- Took a bunch of Israelis Hostage
- Got a bunch of Palestinian Civilians killed
- Israel stepped in it and went from having basically 9/11 levels of support to post Iraqi Civil War levels of support in like a week.
- Now Hamas is putting the ball wayyyy into Israel's court by basically forcing Israel into turning this into a war of retribution rather than a rescue operation.

Bibi is between a rock and a hard place if that offer gets a lot of airtime. While IDF is still gearing up to lay down the asskicking of the century Hamas now looks like the reasonable one offering the hostages back for a simple stop to the bombing campaign.
 

Moonbeam

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And the world lets them. I am so sick of it.
I hope you understand the reason that you use expressions like 'sick of it' is because you do not want to feel the pain the awareness of all that useless misery and suffering brings. It's all such a fucking waste. Eventually it would seem that each side will have more dead than if all the original aggrieved on both sides had been exterminated by some third party putting a permanent end to it.

Perhaps this will help you feel less sick:

In California there is also a war going on over land, as I remember between 7 different tribes with an estimated death toll of around a trillion a year, and all because each does not smell right to the other. Not only that, but the seven tribes emigrated from Argentina.
 

HomerJS

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Well when you dehumanize a group (Desantis: all Gazans are antisemitic, Ben Shapiro: all Gazans are terrorist enablers), then it is a lot easier to do whatever you want to them. And to top it off, then say they deserved it!

Look for conservatives to use this playbook against their fellow US citizens in the next 5-10 years to justify whatever horrors they have in store for us.
Meanwhile members of the Republican Party support and associate with white nationalist people/groups and don't get called out for it.
 
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