And why the hell would IDF destroy a Gaza hospital the day before the POTUS arrives? That would be incredibly counter productive.
And why the hell would IDF destroy a Gaza hospital the day before the POTUS arrives? That would be incredibly counter productive.I'm probably leaning toward either a launch failure or debris from an intercept falling on the hospital parking lot. People were talking like there was massive structural damage and so far the photos from reliable sources indicate that is not the case. Biden would likely not say what he did without a fairly convincing assessment either.
This does not really look like the result of an IDF strike right now.
My point was our Wide Open southern border with Mexico.
Bbc reporting an eyewitness saying a F16 or F35 was responsible in their latest reporting. Apparently the hospital had already been hit by an airstrike hours before.
Hospital blast in Gaza City kills hundreds - health officials
Israel's military denies claims it struck the Al-Ahli Arab hospital and blames a Palestinian rocket.www.bbc.com
Bbc reporting an eyewitness saying a F16 or F35 was responsible in their latest reporting. Apparently the hospital had already been hit by an airstrike hours before.
Hospital blast in Gaza City kills hundreds - health officials
Israel's military denies claims it struck the Al-Ahli Arab hospital and blames a Palestinian rocket.www.bbc.com
🙄 oh the fog of war and misinformationBbc reporting an eyewitness saying a F16 or F35 was responsible in their latest reporting. Apparently the hospital had already been hit by an airstrike hours before.
Hospital blast in Gaza City kills hundreds - health officials
Israel's military denies claims it struck the Al-Ahli Arab hospital and blames a Palestinian rocket.www.bbc.com
Dear God I am liking post PCGeek does. 🤣So now we have a witness that says there were two missiles dropped on the crowd. And that there were hundreds trapped beneath the "rubble".
Vs a picture that shows almost no rubble (outside of burned out cars) and a dent that isn't from one munition, let alone two.
Sure, seems plausible.
Funny how you choose not to trust what Israel and Biden are saying here. The history of this conflict is that the pals lie about every last thing that happens during warfare between the two, particularly civilian casualties. The proof is in the assessment of all these anti-Israel human rights orgs and the UN HRC, the reports of which several people have been waving around in this thread. Those are the "neutrals" who will investigate here, who are not neutral, but will nonetheless end up corroborating Israel's version of it. If they investigate the incident at all, since they already know that what Biden just said is accurate - satellite imagery confirms that the ordinance that hit the hospital came from elsewhere in Gaza, and specifically from an Islamic Jihad operational zone. And they won't want to issue a report that says that.
I highly doubt Biden is lying about this either, because I don't think he would lie about it to begin with, and everything that has happened in past wars confirms that the Pals are the least trustworthy source.
You guys should read these reports you keep linking. There are several dozen of them over the years and I've read through a bunch. You have to look past the articles about the reports, and the executive summaries with their overcooked rhetoric about war crimes, human rights violations and apartheid, and look at the factual investigations. They typically come in at 10% over IDF assessments of civilian casualties, and 90% under Palestinian assessments. But never mention the discrepancy. You have to look elsewhere to find out what the Pals were claiming, because these orgs don't want people to be aware of how often and to what extent they lie. But they will mention the IDF assessments, to show that civilian casualties were a little higher than they said.
As an example of Palestinian mendacity, when Israel conducted and operation in Jenin (West Bank) in 2003 to root out a bomb making operation, and it turned into a major battle, IDF said 9 civilians were killed. Human Rights Watch said 12. The Pals said 500. And they were caught on video staging over 100 fake funeral processions, with empty caskets, for people who didn't exist.
Collectively the reports show that Israel conducts itself similarly to the US or other democracies who are at war, with the special consideration that they are confronting an enemy who hides amongst civilians. They also prove the Pals are fighting a propaganda war here. Since they cannot prevail militarily, they are trying to de-legitimize Israel to the rest of the world. And so many people in this thread are suckers, buying it all, hook line and sinker. You guys know all those righties who will believe anything that makes democrats look bad, no matter how outlandish or evidence free the claims are? Well many people here are exactly the same - they buy anything that makes Israel look bad. I've pretty much had it with people who seem to have no idea of who historically tells the truth and who does not. Motivated reasoning is an epidemic these days.
Dear God I am liking post PCGeek does. 🤣
And in the end it will make no difference what the facts show. Many will blame Israel regardless.
I agree Palestinians deserve freedom. Freedom from the Hamas Terrorist and Iranian meddling.
But no freedom from the oppression from Israel and other western governments?
They need to be released from the Hamas Terrorist first, Then get a valid government established, and stop shooting rockets into Israel.
Once they do that then many of their issues will clear up on their own.
They need to be released from the Hamas Terrorist first, Then get a valid government established, and stop shooting rockets into Israel.
Once they do that then many of their issues will clear up on their own.
You mean a hole like this? Do you seriously think that crater was made by a JDAM?
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no no no....you see, it hit oxygen tanks.....or was it hamas was storing ammunition there...i forget which story they are going with this minute, it changes so quicklyWhat about the destruction, can it be the result of a palestinian rocket..?..
And as i told you it can make a hole on a building only if it s brick and mortar
So Israel doesn't have to stop building illegal settlements, enforcing an apartheid state, or killing civilians and journalists?
Shitty memes are so much better than photo evidence.
What about the destruction, can it be the result of a palestinian rocket..?..
And as i told you it can make a hole on a building only if it s brick and mortar
no no no....you see, it hit oxygen tanks.....or was it hamas was storing ammunition there...i forget which story they are going with this minute, it changes so quickly
Hamas blew up the hospital in gaza and yet they continue to try to blame Israel. May they burn in hell for their terrorism.
The hospital was barely damaged . The rocket hit the parking lot and a lot of people had been moved outside.
Also, when you post comments from people who say "only Israel could do smoothing this depraved" after Hamas just murdered 1300 Israelis, many of them children, you only make yourself look the fool because you cannot see the bias of those you are using as sources.
Also, just because we question the hospital hit was by Israel doesn’t mean we believe only the state like has been suggested. I think Israel hate (or love of Hamas) makes some only believe in on narrative and refuse to acknowledge possibility of another even if is the truth.Yeah, pretty much, especially those that attribute statements to people who never made them, and even put them in quotations! This is typical of the quality of so-called "evidence" that the anti-Israel crowd posts around here. Cheap propaganda and over-cooked rhetoric. Because they've got nothing else and never have. Supply them with facts then watch as they ignore them and keep posting garbage instead.