Israel: We Are At War

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woolfe9998

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Some Jews opposing Israel is evidence of exactly nothing. Jews can't agree amongst themselves over practically anything.
 

VRAMdemon

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Each side bears responsibility for the current mess and messes that happen in that part of the world year after previous year. Hamas, Hezbollah and the Arab neighbor states policy is very explicit in stating that their goal is to eliminate Israel. Israeli policy, certainly in the past decade or so under Netanyahu and his supporters, has been to make a two-state solution impossible by creating facts on the ground that make any solution impossible. Netanyahu has orchestrated this deliberately. He has no interest whatever in a two-state solution and he's seen to it that won't ever happen under his leadership.

So here we are, locked into ANOTHER cycle of violence with no solution in sight. This happens every few years. Hamas or some other terrorist group lashes out. Israel strikes back hard. Many people die. The violence wanes and the situation reverts to the status quo. Then the same thing happens again a few years from now. The goal of each side is complete capitulation. What we outside the region propose in various models are not acceptable to the parties in conflict. and until they are ready to acknowledge each other and must recognize peace also comes with costs. It's about getting all Arab nations to agree that Israel has a right to exist and in complete safety. Full stop. Hamas is a criminal/gangster organization that has their hatred for Jews as their guiding ethos. The senseless slaughter of Israeli citizens and hostage taking is the reason for why what is happening in Gaza.
 

VRAMdemon

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Based upon the Zionist supporters in this thread let alone the actual zionists, their bloodlust for Palestinians is endless. They can justify and hypocritize anything

Oh look! .... More and more verbal diarrhea, projection and labeling bullshit from this clown and troll Mr. Squished. Why don't you point out who these "Zionist supporters in this thread" are. And also point out for everyone who in this thread has "endless bloodlust for Palestinians".
 

APU_Fusion

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Oh look! .... More and more verbal diarrhea, projection and labeling bullshit from this clown and troll Mr. Squished. Why don't you point out who these "Zionist supporters in this thread" are. And also point out for everyone who in this thread has "endless bloodlust for Palestinians".
I put the dude on ignore awhile ago. 🤣
 

linkgoron

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I asked my question first, does that look a JDAM strike to you?

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It's a lost cause. It's quite clear that there weren't 500 people that died here. There's tons of evidence that this fell exactly at the time and direction of rockets that were launched from Gaza. The damage done also fits a rocket misfire. If people don't want to believe the evidence, they just won't.
 

KMFJD

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It's a lost cause. It's quite clear that there weren't 500 people that died here. There's tons of evidence that this fell exactly at the time and direction of rockets that were launched from Gaza. The damage done also fits a rocket misfire. If people don't want to believe the evidence, they just won't.
just like the 40 beheaded babies

/Traumatized people say wild shit, news at 11
 
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Brovane

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the crater? depends, was it airburst?
The trees are still standing 30-feet away from the crater. A airburst would have resulted in a high velocity shock-wave doing much more damage to the surrounding area. The ac condensers and solar panels are still on the roof. Do you think they would be with a JDAM airburst? Look at the surrounding buildings.

 
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linkgoron

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just like the 40 beheaded babies
IIRC the claim was that there were 40 dead babies, some beheaded. However, that's besides the point. There's no denying that babies were murdered and some burned alive. Does it make any difference if they were not beheaded but just shot point-blank or killed with a knife or burned alive?
 
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KMFJD

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KMFJD

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IIRC the claim was that there were 40 dead babies, some beheaded. However, that's besides the point. There's no denying that babies were murdered and some burned alive. Does it make any difference if they were not beheaded but just shot point-blank or killed with a knife or burned alive?
and yet Israel continues to non stop bomb while denying all water/food/fuel into Gaza for over 2 million people....their story keeps changing yet the punishment on Palestinians stays the same so i'm just going to say fuck you in the most polite way i know
 

linkgoron

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and yet Israel continues to non stop bomb while denying all water/food/fuel into Gaza for over 2 million people....their story keeps changing yet the punishment on Palestinians stays the same
IIRC water has been restored to Southern Gaza, although that might have changed by now.

I don't see anything major changing in the story. Does it make a large difference if dozens of babies were just murdered and not beheaded? Nobody is denying that babies were killed. It's not the same difference as Hamas or the PIJ misfiring and hitting a hospital parking lot and probably killing a few of their own people vs. Israel leveling a hospital and killing 500 people.
 

woolfe9998

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IDF released audio of two Hamas operatives discussing the hospital blast, one telling the other that Islamic Jihad fired the rocket "from the cemetery behind the hospital" and misfired, coming right back down. The other says incredulously "it came from us?" The other then saying "the missile is local shrapnel and not Israeli shrapnel."


Yes, I'm sure it's all a hoax perpetrated by Israel, because any evidence that suggests anything other than Israel did it must of course be fake. You guys would fit right in with all the people who think all the evidence against Trump is fake.
 
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Brovane

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and yet Israel continues to non stop bomb while denying all water/food/fuel into Gaza for over 2 million people....their story keeps changing yet the punishment on Palestinians stays the same so i'm just going to say fuck you in the most polite way i know

When I watch a video like this, I really wonder who is to blame for the lack of water in Gaza. Don't you?

Hamas boasted it could use EU-funded pipelines to attack Israel
 

woolfe9998

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KMFJD

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IIRC water has been restored to Southern Gaza, although that might have changed by now.

I don't see anything major changing in the story. Does it make a large difference if dozens of babies were just murdered and not beheaded? Nobody is denying that babies were killed. It's not the same difference as Hamas or the PIJ misfiring and hitting a hospital parking lot and probably killing a few of their own people vs. Israel leveling a hospital and killing 500 people.
wait, i thought Hamas had dug up all those pipes to create rockets?
 

KMFJD

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ffs...i know i have no power, no voice.

All i see is people being hurt and it is making me so fucking angry
 
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