Israel: We Are At War

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amenx

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Cairo peace conference for Gaza live.




The list of attendees :

Egyptian President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas

Jordanian King Abdullah

United Arab Emirates President Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed

Bahraini King Hamad bin Isa Al Khalifa

Qatari Emir Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad al-Thani

Kuwaiti Crown Prince Sheikh Meshal al-Ahmad al-Sabah

Turkish Foreign Minister Hakan Fidan

Iraqi Prime Minister Mohammed Shia al-Sudani

Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni

Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez

Greek Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis

Cypriot President Nikos Christodoulides

South African President Cyril Ramaphosa

German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock

French Foreign Minister Catherine Colonna

Japanese Foreign Minister Yoko Kamikawa

British Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs James Cleverly

Norwegian Foreign Minister Espen Barth Eide

Russia's Deputy Foreign Minister Mikhail Bogdanov

China's envoy for Middle East issues Zhai Jun

United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres

European Council President Charles Michel

European Union foreign policy chief Josep Borrell
The absence of Israeli and US representation makes this pointless. Israel is not there because they know that anything called a "peace summit" would necessarily require an end to hostilities on its part. Something they obviously do not want to do anytime soon. The US is not there because they know this and cannot do anything about it. And do not want to be embarrassed being viewed as an impotent superpower or worse, an Israeli puppet.
 

akugami

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When you about 30-40 years old, if you’re not building for those who comes after you you missed one of life’s big lessons.

I thought life's greatest lesson was "fuck you, got mine!"

At least that's what I got from republican behavior.
 

APU_Fusion

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You follow the wisdom of a high school dropout and think I'm clueless.
Do you have a 6th grader do your taxes? A 19 year old life coach? I know a pretty sharp kid just out of high school that could handle your investments.
You are clueless. How dare a young person care about the world she lives in. The rest of your post is condescending drivel by putting her down to compensate for your threatened small penis and brain. Why the fuck are you commenting about the worthless Greta if she is worthless? You sound like the small minded dumbass MAGAT you are. Jesus, the unemployed carpenter, you are dumb. I bet you go to church and sing hymns to the unemployed carpenter who wanted to make a difference, you hypocrite
 

KMFJD

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According to France the hospital strike was not a result of Israeli actions.

"The DRM does not usually release such information, but on the instruction of President Emmanuel Macron decided to make its findings public given the contrasting accounts about who is responsible."
"A blast at a Gaza hospital was not the result of an Israeli missile strike, but likely caused by a misfiring Palestinian rocket, the French military intelligence directorate (DRM) said on Friday. ...the most likely (scenario) is a Palestinian rocket that had a firing incident,"



Here's two that say it wasn't a Hamas rocket motor....who's right? i have no idea....probably should let UN do a search right?



Well i guess it's settled then?
 
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Ajay

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atgm/army people? feasible? i had read that previously they had been firing rp7's at the Merkava's at odd angles and then the atgm to try and defeat the Trophy system?
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Interesting question. The Kornet-E warhead is about 1/2 the weight of the Javelin's tandem HEAT round. It doesn't have quite the same penetrating power. It seems the the Armor on the Merkava is classified (RHA thickness or the type of composite/reactive armor) - it's a heavy tank, so I'm sure nothing was spared in terms of protection. If the 1.5s reload interval is correct, then Hezbollah's dual firing system would stop the first missile and take the brunt of the second. There is video out there of a Kornet missile taking out an M1A1 Abrams and a number of M1A1s were taken out in Iraq by varying means. The Kornet hit on the Abrams wasn't frontal, which I'm certain would fail to do much more than really annoy the crew. The thing about modern tanks, is that they can still be taken out by depleted Uranium rounds (DU) - it just takes more rounds impacting the same approximate area to penetrate the armor. A DU round is basically the bog standard kinetic round for tanks (KE). Hitting a tank between the 4 & 8 O'clock positions are generally the weakest points (taking about tank damages, which isn't necessarily crew loss) . At the very least, it's a clever tactic.
 
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Brovane

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Here's two that say it wasn't a Hamas rocket motor....who's right? i have no idea....probably should let UN do a search right?



Well i guess it's settled then?

The UN over the decades hasn't shown itself to be a neutral party when dealing with Israel.

Video Analysis Shows Gaza Hospital Hit By Rocket Meant for Israel | WSJ

CNN forensic analysis suggests what may have caused Gaza hospital blast
 

Sunburn74

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LMAO
I mean historically how many people who called for an end to genocide were eventually proven as terrorists ? Zero? You can't claim to be the good guys if your response to ending potential genocide is calling the anti genocide side evil.
 

Brovane

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I mean historically how many people who called for an end to genocide were eventually proven as terrorists ? Zero? You can't claim to be the good guys if your response to ending potential genocide is calling the anti genocide side evil.

Putin claims that he invaded Ukraine to stop genocide against Russians in the Donbas region by the Ukrainian government.

“The purpose of this operation is to protect people who, for eight years now, have been facing humiliation and genocide perpetrated by the Kyiv regime,” Putin said.
 

GodisanAtheist

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Sort of flattering to think someone's words are a bigger call to arms than dropping 1000's of tons of explosives on them.

Sounds like that lady has her next album title all ready to go.
 

Zor Prime

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Sad to see this. Not just social backlash vs Arabs but also new political persecution.
I don't have the link on hand, but sometime over the past week or two I did read a bit where an Israeli police chief, or something of the sort, said that any protesters were going to be put on a bus and sent to Gaza. Something along those lines are out there on the Interwebz if someone wants to dig it up.
 

amenx

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16 years ago, Jimmy Carter had described the situation in the Occupied Territories as "horrendous". Since then Israel has only ratcheted things up year by year. And made sure the MSM was primarily focused on the Kardashians.

 

Sunburn74

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Putin claims that he invaded Ukraine to stop genocide against Russians in the Donbas region by the Ukrainian government.

“The purpose of this operation is to protect people who, for eight years now, have been facing humiliation and genocide perpetrated by the Kyiv regime,” Putin said.
So basically 1 case?
 

Thunder 57

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16 years ago, Jimmy Carter had described the situation in the Occupied Territories as "horrendous". Since then Israel has only ratcheted things up year by year. And made sure the MSM was primarily focused on the Kardashians.


Well, Jews do control the media, and Holleywood.
 

KMFJD

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A rather long analysis , about as in depth as you can get about the Hospital massacre
 

HomerJS

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Here's two that say it wasn't a Hamas rocket motor....who's right? i have no idea....probably should let UN do a search right?



Well i guess it's settled then?
NOT APPROPRIATE? That the EXACT thing they need to do. I made this point when the story broke. This is one of the reasons people like myself are skeptical of Israel.

There is no reason NOT to do this. There is going to be another atrocity in Gaza committed by Israel where we will be wedded at the hip because we just believe everything Israel tell us.
 
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