I caught that speech and was glad to hear it. We support Israel, but they must stop doing some utterly absurd things that have nothing to do with HAMAS.
I caught that speech and was glad to hear it. We support Israel, but they must stop doing some utterly absurd things that have nothing to do with HAMAS.A bit late, but I guess Biden beginning to feel his integrity compromised by his all out support for Israel and close identification with facism and ethnic cleansing.
The US President spoke out against retaliatory attacks by Israeli settlers against Palestinians in the West Bank in the aftermath of Hamas's surprise assault on 7 October.
Joe Biden said the attacks by “extremist settlers” were "pouring gasoline" on already raging fires in the Middle East since the attack, which killed 1,400 people.
“It has to stop. They have to be held accountable. It has to stop now,” he said at the start of a news conference with Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese, who was visiting Washington.
Settler violence against Palestinians has intensified in recent weeks, with Palestinians killed by settlers.
Rights groups say settlers have torched cars and attacked several small Bedouin communities, forcing them to evacuate to other areas.
Israel prepares for ground operation with Gaza tank raid
All the latest developments from the Israel Hamas war.www.euronews.com
A military-ish organisation especially during a time of conflict would be expected to have a stockpile of fuel for reasons that ought to be obvious. Whether that fuel stockpile is of use to hospitals is one question, if so, the question would then become whether Hamas has way more than it could conceivably need or not, which is a tricky question to answer because if Hamas is sensible and doesn't just have one giant fuel dump begging to be targeted, how many does it have and how well defended are they, does the loss of one or more change the picture of what Hamas can realistically spare during this conflict.Apparently HAMAS has a large amount of fuel stock piled. If this is true, there is no reason for the hospitals to be shutdown other than as a PR exercise that benefits HAMAS.
Hamas claims to be the government.A military-ish organisation especially during a time of conflict would be expected to have a stockpile of fuel for reasons that ought to be obvious. Whether that fuel stockpile is of use to hospitals is one question, if so, the question would then become whether Hamas has way more than it could conceivably need or not, which is a tricky question to answer because if Hamas is sensible and doesn't just have one giant fuel dump begging to be targeted, how many does it have and how well defended are they, does the loss of one or more change the picture of what Hamas can realistically spare during this conflict.
NYT casting doubt on Israeli and US explanations of the "failed rocket" with a new investigation that places the projectile exploding in mid-air about 2 miles from the hospital. And that the projectile was fired from Israel (Iron Dome).
It doesnt determine who or what caused the blast at the hospital parking lot, but does mention the hospital taking a hit from Israeli munitions the day before the blast amidst the warnings to hosp to evacuate.
A Close Look at Some Key Evidence in the Gaza Hospital Blast
A widely cited missile video does not shed light on what happened, a Times analysis concludes.www.nytimes.com
And Aric Toler of the NYT with projectile trajectories maps.
- Guess there has been enough generational turnover in Arab states that they've forgotten the last time they got their asses beat by Israel.As a double-plus bonus to what @RnR_au said, I'm pretty sure Israel 'annexing' the Palestinian territories activate the Muslim trap card, and they immediately enter war with a billion citizens of our fair planet.
Hamas claims to be the government.
A government has an obligation to its people.
Hamas's refusal to provide governmental services is a refusal to govern.
Thereby Hamas loses any claim of being a government. It loses its claim to represent anything but itself.
Also the collapse of the British and French colonies. The British in particular drew up borders for the disparate colonies with, seemingly, total abandon.- Guess there has been enough generational turnover in Arab states that they've forgotten the last time they got their asses beat by Israel.
I was in Egypt a few years ago and every other thing is "10th of Ramadan" this or "6th of October" that (it was printed on the glass of my shower door, the marble on my sink, a whole new district of Cairo is named "6th of October City", just all over the place) despite the Yom Kippur War being a war Egypt decisively lost.
The world needs to "settle" in a new "lower energy state". We've been in a time of geopolitical transition from the collapse of the Soviet Union and I think we need to just hash some stuff out in a few places, arrive at some winners and losers, and then maybe get another 50 years of everyone licking their wounds and forgetting.
Being a Jew myself what Netanyahu states is pretty spot on! Of course, you will be able to find Jews who disagree with what Netanyahu states!Who do you believe? A certified, extreme right wing liar with a history of lying... or this guy?
Been there done that, so what is the solution? We need a workable solution. Presently all we have is talk and disagreements!There's also the Christian fundies who only care about the Rapture and how soon it can come. They believe that war in the Holy Land is pre-ordained in the Bible to kick it off and have been funding things like illegal Jewish settlements on Palestinian land. They've poured millions of dollars into this and won't be happy about peace and a 2 state solution.
Much of the support comes from fundamentalist Christians, who believe in biblical prophecies that Jews will inherit the land of Israel. Ardent followers also embrace literal interpretations of the Bible that a thriving state of Israel is a prerequisite for an apocalyptic end-time and the return of Jesus to earth. Often led by the charismatic leaders of megachurches, these grass-roots groups across the U.S. raise millions of dollars each year.
FTFYHamasRepublicans claim to be the government in the House
A government has an obligation to its people.
Hamas'sRepublicans refusal to provide governmental services when the shutdown the government or jettison the Speaker is a refusal to govern.
TherebyHamasRepublicans lose any claim of being a government. It They lose their claim to represent anything but themselves.
This the problem. Anybody can say anything in their own little closed universe. Why would N'yahoos word, a crooked politician who has no compunction to lie or cheat or steal be taken over the far more reputable and qualified views of professionals (incl Israeli historians) in their academic fields?Being a Jew myself what Netanyahu states is pretty spot on! Of course, you will be able to find Jews who disagree with what Netanyahu states!
The problem is whose account of history do you believe? Netanyahu did not make any statement's that have not been stated by others! There were no new thoughts! All he did was state what others have stated, only more bluntly!
I remember last thread a few years back, thing goot really heated among members of this forum!!
The irony being most of those scrolls teach the opposite of what the MAGATS’ fevered minds think they are teaching 🙄Let's not forget that literal Nazi Stephen Miller (actually a Jew! That is also an actual Nazi!) whose sole job was to craft the voice and intent and actual policy of the Trump administration.
Having an actual Nazi behind the throne is what makes the GOP so very very comfortable with Trump. Every single Trump voter recognizes this all as indistinguishable from how they view the world and their perverted fantasy about what the United States is. Shoving out the Nazis has a lot to do with the profound terror those supporters felt when they very clearly lost the election, and thus inspired them in their unmistakable attempt to end the United States on January 6th.
Somehow, he must hold 73 million of these fucking assholes accountable.
Turkey just doesn't belong to the west, simple as that.
Erdogan says that Hamas is not a terrorist group but freedom fighters , I guess PKK is not a terrorist group but freedom fighters as well.
Turkey's Erdogan says Hamas is not terrorist organisation, cancels trip to Israel
Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan, in his strongest comments yet on the Gaza conflict, said on Wednesday the Palestinian militant group Hamas was not a terrorist organisation but a liberation group fighting to protect Palestinian lands.www.reuters.com
ANKARA, Oct 25 (Reuters) - Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan, in his strongest comments yet on the Gaza conflict, said on Wednesday the Palestinian militant group Hamas was not a terrorist organisation but a liberation group fighting to protect Palestinian lands.
"Hamas is not a terrorist organisation, it is a liberation group, 'mujahideen' waging a battle to protect its lands and people," he told lawmakers from his ruling AK Party, using an Arabic word denoting those who fight for their faith.
Unlike many of its NATO allies and the European Union, Turkey does not consider Hamas a terrorist organisation and hosts members of the group on its territory. Ankara backs a two-state solution to the decades-old Israel-Palestinian conflict.
Same shit, different decade/century.75 pages of people who generally believe in the same human rights arguing with each other about which right-wing authoritarian group wielding power in this "war" is less shitty.
The cognitive dissonance of trying to square this circle is mind-blowing for the few of us staring at it from orbit.
Although as usual the civilians trapped in that shithole part of the world (oh God did I just paraphrase Trump?!) are the ones who are going to suffer.
Just a tip for the people still believing they can figure out a way to call the circle a square: if you aren't distinguishing between regular old civilians in the Gaza concentration camps, or the regular old civilians in Israel proper... and instead conflate the two right-wing authoritarian groups wielding power in their names...then your arguments are laughably invalid.
tl;dr: neither side wielding power is the good guy. I'll continue to stand by my decades-long assessment, that Israel and the US are the most to blame for this, as Israel runs their government and maintains the Palestinian concentration camps, while they play client-state to the most powerful Empire (that's the US) that has ever existed to get away with it. Hamas, the PLO, individual Palestinians who commit murder, etc, are all to blame for murdering Israelis and committing terrorism, because no fucking shit they are.
Also, see: Iranian Ayatollahs, the Taliban, Saudi Arabia, and holy-fucking-shit-just-briefly-glance-at-the-mother-fucking-Central-and-South-American-dictators-the-US-installed-and-supported-holy-fucking-shit-what-a-list.
Y'all leftish-leaning people need to ease up on calling each other terrorist sympathizers or secret Nazis. At least have some perspective and realize the British and French are the root cause of the whole thing, with the US effectively enabling it the past 80 years.
super tl;dr: there's no good end to this. Either this dumpster fire smolders for another 30-40 years, or the dumpster gets bulldozed and paved over for new "settlements". I suspect that the ongoing worldwide societal collapse will turn this hot-button issue into just another background issue people occasionally pay attention to as they struggle to make ends meet in the near-term.
Also: fascism feeds on chaos. So, there's that.
Don't think the Pentagon is going to pay for Hamas terrorists to get internet.Israel killed the internet in Gaza, so they can up their genocide to another level.
Fucking evil bastards.
Let's see if Elon fucks with Starlink in Gaza.