Israel: We Are At War

[VRAMdemon]

pro zionists, in this thread, who have dehumanized the palestinians, are all pro just giving it to Gaza at this point, basically ignore the actual decades of Israeli actions, saying things like Israel would never do anything terrible, etc. etc. etc..

have you actually read this thread? you should read it before you start talking shit like a moron.

Clown show incoming "cloppity" "clopity" "clop"... Hey troll, why don't you point out specifically who are the "pro Zionists" in this thread ... you seem to know them all even though no one has self identified as a "pro Zionist" ... it should be easy. And also point out who in this thread has personally "dehumanized the Palestinians" and are "all pro in just giving it to Gaza" . STFU with this bullshit and just post your thoughts without your projection call out bullshit and you'll never hear from me. Almost every fucking thread is shit all over with your verbal diarrhea.

 

[Leeea]

You can apparently buy a pretty potent air force with other countries money that's not a shock

100% true.


I didn't realize it, but Iron Dome is heavily financed by the US also.

 

[MrSquished]

Clown show incoming "cloppity" "clopity" "clop"... Hey troll, why don't you point out specifically who are the "pro Zionists" in this thread ... you seem to know them all even though no one has self identified as a "pro Zionist" ... it should be easy. And also point out who in this thread has personally "dehumanized the Palestinians" and are "all pro in just giving it to Gaza" . STFU with this bullshit and just post your thoughts without your projection call out bullshit and you'll never hear from me. Almost every fucking thread is shit all over with your verbal diarrhea.

would you like some kleenex?

I actually got quite a few likes in this threads from good posters. Honestly I don't care if a few douchebags are gonna cry about my posts. Seriously. Get a life.

 

[KMFJD]

It appears something is happening in Dagestan , there was a large mob of people flooding the airport looking for passengers on the just landed flight from Tel Aviv

 

[K1052]

What’s a little pogrom between friends?

Russian “anti nazi” efforts clearly in full effect.

 

[Jaskalas]

It appears something is happening in Dagestan , there was a large mob of people flooding the airport looking for passengers on the just landed flight from Tel Aviv

Some additional details. Only apparent factor in their decision making is a belief among (some?) Muslims that all Jews must die. So the rioting mob is seen hunting for victims to massacre.

Russians storm airport in attempt to attack passengers of Israeli flight​

According to N12, the pilots were warned of the mob and rerouted the plane to land at a nearby airport. The rioters reached that one as well.​

https://twitter.com/x/status/1718683535794389018

 

[akugami]

Of course it was just empty promises and bullshit. Elon is enjoying the brown people of Palestine being slaughtered. He is a sick disgusting piece of shit. And so is Israel. What bunch of fucking evil fucks.

The only thing I'll disagree with is the comment on Israel. While I do condemn the illegal settlements by Israelis into Gaza, and many of the actions of Israel as a nation, I would caution everyone on condemning an entire country over the actions of a few. Just like I cannot label all Palestinians as terrorists because of the actions of Hamas, I can't do the same for all Israelis.

And actions such as the death of a Palestinian olive farmer by an Israeli settler are actions that escalate the conflict. The true victims of Hamas will be the Palestinian citizens in the Gaza strip as this will give Israel another excuse to force Palestinians out of their homes and expand illegal Israeli settlements.

 

[zinfamous]

Let's see if this happens

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https://twitter.com/x/status/1718224153474388433

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https://x.com/AmichaiStein1/status/1718314408936440080?s=20

damn, Musk gonna lose his new-blood fascist supporters in Russiar and the GOP right about now.

so much for his "not picking sides."

 

[MrSquished]

The only thing I'll disagree with is the comment on Israel. While I do condemn the illegal settlements by Israelis into Gaza, and many of the actions of Israel as a nation, I would caution everyone on condemning an entire country over the actions of a few. Just like I cannot label all Palestinians as terrorists because of the actions of Hamas, I can't do the same for all Israelis.

And actions such as the death of a Palestinian olive farmer by an Israeli settler are actions that escalate the conflict. The true victims of Hamas will be the Palestinian citizens in the Gaza strip as this will give Israel another excuse to force Palestinians out of their homes and expand illegal Israeli settlements.

I don't condemn all Israelis. I know there is opposition to netanyahu and the right wing agenda in there, including what is happening now. Just like during Trump many of us were against his government and policies.

When I say Israel I mean the current government And what it has done for decades and especially what it's been doing lately, and those who know and support its behavior and actions including what's going on now.

 

[amenx]

With all the dead and injured, warning hospitals to evacuate is a sick joke.

 

[Racan]

War crime

https://x.com/clashreport/status/1718904084000899470?s=20

 

[KMFJD]

War crime

https://x.com/clashreport/status/1718904084000899470?s=20

I saw this happen when Ukraine was invaded as well....

 

[linkgoron]

With all the dead and injured, warning hospitals to evacuate is a sick joke.

If Hamas have their headquarters inside of hospitals what are the Israelis supposed to do?

War crime

https://x.com/clashreport/status/1718904084000899470?s=20

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

If Hamas have their headquarters inside of hospitals what are the Israelis supposed to do?

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It's still a war crime. Technically both of them are, but two wrongs and all.

 

[linkgoron]

It's still a war crime. Technically both of them are, but two wrongs and all.

What's a war crime? shooting down a car coming at a tank? And what if someone had an RPG inside of the car?.

Also, requesting evacuation from a hospital is actually what's REQUIRED by international law in-order to avoid a war crime.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

What's a war crime? shooting down a car coming at a tank? And someone had an RPG.

Also, requesting evacuation from a hospital is actually what's REQUIRED by international law in-order to avoid a war crime.

Huh? No, attacking medical facilities, personnel, or equipment.

 

[linkgoron]

Huh? No, attacking medical facilities, personnel, or equipment.

https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v2/rule28

If Israel has proof that the hospitals are used as headquarters and bases of operation for Hamas, they are allowed to demand their evacuation.

From the Geneva Conventions (additional protocols I and II)

 

[Brovane]

Huh? No, attacking medical facilities, personnel, or equipment.

https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/war-crimes.shtml

According to the UN, Article 8, 2, b, ix.

intentionally directing attacks against buildings dedicated to religion, education, art, science or charitable purposes, historic monuments, hospitals and places where the sick and wounded are collected, provided they are not military objectives;

Once Hamas located it's HQ inside the Hospital, the Hospital became a military objective and the Hospital loses it's protected status under international law.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v2/rule28

If Israel has proof that the hospitals are used as headquarters and bases of operation for Hamas, they are allowed to demand their evacuation.

From the Geneva Conventions (additional protocols I and II)
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https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/war-crimes.shtml

According to the UN, Article 8, 2, b, ix.

intentionally directing attacks against buildings dedicated to religion, education, art, science or charitable purposes, historic monuments, hospitals and places where the sick and wounded are collected, provided they are not military objectives;

Once Hamas located it's HQ inside the Hospital, the Hospital became a military objective and the Hospital loses it's protected status under international law.

Right, so now we get to fight over what 'warning' and 'reasonable time-limit' is, and whether Israel gave them that.

 

[linkgoron]

Right, so now we get to fight over what 'warning' and 'reasonable time-limit' is, and whether Israel gave them that.

All I'm saying is that it's not automatically a war crime. If Hamas has HQs inside of hospitals, what is Israel supposed to do?

So far, Israel has not attacked any hospitals.

 

[Brovane]

Right, so now we get to fight over what 'warning' and 'reasonable time-limit' is, and whether Israel gave them that.

Unfortunately when Hamas decided to locate it's HQ inside of a Hospital, the Hospital loses it's special protected status under international law.

 

[mikeymikec]

If Hamas have their headquarters inside of hospitals what are the Israelis supposed to do?

Well obviously they've got to attack the hospital, right? /s

Come on guys, try using your brains. Your enemy is hiding in a hospital and opening fire on the hospital in a generalised fashion would be frowned upon by the international community. Have a think about what advantages your force has against them and what disadvantages your enemy has if they're forced to hide in a hospital.

 

[Racan]

I saw this happen when Ukraine was invaded as well....

Indeed:

https://x.com/AdrianMihail90/status/1501261113832329217?s=20

I guess they were also fucking around and finding out…

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

All I'm saying is that it's not automatically a war crime. If Hamas has HQs inside of hospitals, what is Israel supposed to do?

So far, Israel has not attacked any hospitals.

Man if only there were options beyond a) blow up the hospital or b) do nothing. Pity we only have those two, it sure makes war sucky.

 

[linkgoron]

Man if only there were options beyond a) blow up the hospital or b) do nothing. Pity we only have those two, it sure makes war sucky.

There are other options, but they would need to evacuate the Hospital anyway - or do you think that Israeli soldiers and Hamas members should go at it in the Hospital grounds while there are still sick and injured there?