Israel: We Are At War

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akugami

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Just an overall sad situation that should never have been.

For the Palestinians, it must have felt like a slow death for the decades.

Israel has been an oppressive country, and their actions have been terroristic in nature for a long time. Their people have elected hardliners who want to turn Israel into an autocracy, much like right wing nutjobs in the US want to do.
 

kage69

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@kage69 not wanting to address any of those points still?

Those are questions, ones I didn't take too seriously as I thought you were joking. If you're referring your silly British straw, no, I've given up as previously mentioned. You're too invested in not seeing the picture that was drawn for you. Followed by ignoring the point when it was spelled out for you. Can't blame me for not trying.

So yeah, moving on...
 

kage69

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Hamas used paragliders for some of their infiltrators? I guess they really did assault from air, land and sea. I thought it was just exaggeration over a well coordinated attack, but no, Hamas kinda has an air force I guess?

Looks like Islamic Jihad (PIL) has joined in alongside Hamas too.
 

Ajay

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Well, Netanyahu has declared war against Hamas. Nothing I can do, so I’ll just be praying for all the innocent Palestinians that are about to die. Unless there is some 3D chess going on here, and I doubt that, Hamas just killed itself and many, many others will die with them. I really do hate the Middle East at times.
 

kage69

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He's also trying to form a new emergency government with his rivals, similar to what happened for the 6 Day War. Lapid and Gantz are going along with it sounds like.

A "reduced" government, which means the IDF will have a longer leash and less oversight.
 
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Zor Prime

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Where are the would-be Gazan targets supposed to go?
If you're wondering about the average citizen caught up in the mess I am not sure but anywhere is better than where a 500lb bomb just was or is about to be. If you're wondering about the murderers or would-be murderers then they should turn themselves in but that won't happen as they'd rather be martyrs so I don't suppose it matters. And hey, man! Hope you've been well!
 

akugami

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Well, Netanyahu has declared war against Hamas. Nothing I can do, so I’ll just be praying for all the innocent Palestinians that are about to die. Unless there is some 3D chess going on here, and I doubt that, Hamas just killed itself and many, many others will die with them. I really do hate the Middle East at times.

There are innocents in Palestine that have been oppressed for generations by Israel. On the flip side, not everyone in Israel is a right wing nut job. There are those that genuinely want to live in peace with their neighbors. Hospitals should NEVER be bombed.

Sadly for both sides, I think it's reached a boiling point where hardliners on both sides will not allow this to end in peace.
 

GodisanAtheist

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Eh Israel should just genocide the Palestinians and we can officially declare irony dead.

When enough time passes we can make Israel vs Palestinian TV shows like Cowboys vs Indians stuff.
 

MrSquished

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If Israel turns Gaza into a parking lot, at least let's move all the MAGA there. If at least something good comes out of this, we would all be blessed, dear lord.
 
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Racan

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AtenRa

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This terrorist attack from Hamas inside Israel will only legitimate Israel's counter offensive that will inflict thousands of deaths . The Gaza district will take the heavier punishment and Palestinians will suffer the most since infrastructure in Gaza will be turn in to ruins. I have a feeling that Egypt would have to open the boarders with Gaza for the Palestinian civilians to be able to escape to safety when Israeli forces will attack otherwise this will become a bloodbath.
 
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Zor Prime

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Israel and Hezbollah exchange fire. Unknown at this point if that will escalate.

Someone speaking for Hezbollah in that article toward the bottom said it saw Palestinian attacks on Israel as a “decisive response to Israel’s continued occupation and a message to those seeking normalisation with Israel”.

That concept has already been touched on by someone in this thread, forget who but I know someone brought up the notion.

Hamas and Hezbollah do not want normalized relations between Israel and anyone else in the Middle East being a 'thing.'
 

AtenRa

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Israel and Hezbollah exchange fire. Unknown at this point if that will escalate.

Someone speaking for Hezbollah in that article toward the bottom said it saw Palestinian attacks on Israel as a “decisive response to Israel’s continued occupation and a message to those seeking normalisation with Israel”.

That concept has already been touched on by someone in this thread, forget who but I know someone brought up the notion.

Hamas and Hezbollah do not want normalized relations between Israel and anyone else in the Middle East being a 'thing.'

I dont believe Hamas will succeed on stopping the normalizations of Arab countries with Israel by attacking and taking hostages civilians. Already SA and the majority of the Arab countries have condemned these attacks.
 
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