Israel: We Are At War

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sdifox

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I'm interested in your reasoning.

If Israel goes to war with Iran, that means the Allies/NATO get pulled in to the conflict at some point. When that happens, there won't be any weapons/munitions left to supply Ukraine. Russia wins there. Seeing their victory and NATO still duking it out with Iran, China launches full scale invasion of Taiwan. North Korea also decides to get in on the action and attacks South Korea. All hell breaks loose.

Why do you think the above series of events is beyond the realm of possibility?
Why would NATO join Israel Iran conflict?
 
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raildogg

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America and its puppets in Europe are now trying to put even more sanctions on Iran for its response to Israel's illegal act of aggression. How American of them - to punish the victims rather than the genocidal aggressors. But since America has sponsored Israel's genocide in Gaza, this is no surprise.
 
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Pens1566

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I'm interested in your reasoning.

If Israel goes to war with Iran, that means the Allies/NATO get pulled in to the conflict at some point. When that happens, there won't be any weapons/munitions left to supply Ukraine. Russia wins there. Seeing their victory and NATO still duking it out with Iran, China launches full scale invasion of Taiwan. North Korea also decides to get in on the action and attacks South Korea. All hell breaks loose.

Why do you think the above series of events is beyond the realm of possibility?

First, there's no guarantee that anyone will become actively involved on Israel's behalf. Certainly not NATO, and questionably the US. Second, even if we were to "jump in" the types of weapons systems that we would likely employ wouldn't have much (if any) cross over with what we have shared so far with Ukraine. They're largely getting excess expired stock of things we've either retired or replaced. So, little to no impact on what is being supplied to Ukraine.

The rest of the fanfic isn't worth addressing really after that.
 
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fskimospy

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America and its puppets in Europe are now trying to put even more sanctions on Iran for its response to Israel's illegal act of aggression. How American of them - to punish the victims rather than the genocidal aggressors. But since America has sponsored Israel's genocide in Gaza, this is no surprise.
So we agree that illegal acts of aggression are bad, no matter the source, correct?
 

raildogg

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So we agree that illegal acts of aggression are bad, no matter the source, correct?
Well, this is a complicated topic as there is hardly any black and white issues on the world geopolitical stage. When Hamas attacked Israel's military bases and other areas of Israel, do you think the war began that day or it began decades earlier?

So the question is do wars begin at the moment of the first attack or is there some things that happen before then?
 

fskimospy

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Well, this is a complicated topic as there is hardly any black and white issues on the world geopolitical stage. When Hamas attacked Israel's military bases and other areas of Israel, do you think the war began that day or it began decades earlier?

So question to you is do wars begin at the moment of the first attack or is there some things that happen before then?
You said this was an illegal act of aggression on Israel’s part. Thats fine. I just want to know if you think all illegal acts of aggression are bad.
 

raildogg

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These things on the geopolitical stage are hardly a black and white issue so we have to know what led up to the act of violence or the act of war. Or in other words, what happened before a certain country or a certain group attacked another group. For example, if an occupier is holding people in bondage against their will, can these people fight back? Because that will be one way to determine whether the act is illegal or not.

You guys are putting this into very childish terms.
 
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You guys are putting this into very childish terms.
Here's a question even a child could answer:

1) Russia vs. Ukraine

2) Israel vs. Gaza

Identify the bad guy in both cases and explain in one coherent sentence why you chose that party as the bad one.
 

raildogg

Lifer
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We are talking about geopolitical events that affects the lives of millions of people, not sports teams where you pick a team. I know Team Ukraine is well represented on this forum though.

There has to be context here because these are complex questions.

Israel vs Gaza is a different topic than Russia vs Ukraine. That is why there are two separate threads. Can you people understand that?

Who is the bad guy? Well, this war is about invaders and occupiers and native peoples of the land. The US and UK have sided with the invaders and occupiers. So you tell me who is the bad guy?
 
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raildogg

Lifer
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This thread is about Israel and Palestine so I speak about them here. I don't drag Ukraine into every thread.
 

eelw

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Lol the Russian bot doesn’t want to equate Ukraine/Russia to Israel/Gaza/Iran. It’s standand RWNJ projection. How can he argue against Israel even though it perfectly aligns with Russian acts of terrorism. And even though he acknowledges the whole middle east conflict is decades old but yet he is laser focused on the single act of attacking the embassy.
 
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MrSquished

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Lol the Russian bot doesn’t want to equate Ukraine/Russia to Israel/Gaza/Iran. It’s standand RWNJ projection. How can he argue against Israel even though it perfectly aligns with Russian acts of terrorism. And even though he acknowledges the whole middle east conflict is decades old but yet he is laser focused on the single act of attacking the embassy.

He's got the same vibe and brain energy of a Trumpie really, just on different topics.
 
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