Israel: We Are At War

[Jaskalas]

Those if those missiles landed on bibi and his party that would be justice.

So would nuking Iran.
If defense is proven inadequate, offense to remove Iran would be the only logical response.

 

[brycejones]

So would nuking Iran.
If defense is proven inadequate, offense to remove Iran would be the only logical response.

Yes more escalation is clearly the answer

 

[K1052]

Biden is not going to get into a war with Iran.

Most we'll do is refuel Israeli strike aircraft.

 

[emperus]

Biden is not going to get into a war with Iran.

And what power would Biden have to stop Netanyahu for dragging us into that war?
Has Israel stopped at any of Biden's previous red lines? Or respected any of the other wishes of the US?
We've seen this movie before in Iraq. This has been Natanyahu's plan since then. Just listen to any of his other speeches on this matter.

Biden seems incapable of putting his foot down even if it costs Harris the election this cycle.

 

[fskimospy]

And what power would Biden have to stop Netanyahu for dragging us into that war?
Has Israel stopped at any of Biden's previous red lines? Or respected any of the other wishes of the US?
We've seen this movie before in Iraq. This has been Natanyahu's plan since then. Just listen to any of his other speeches on this matter.

Biden seems incapable of putting his foot down even if it costs Harris the election this cycle.

Biden would have the power to choose to not order the US military to participate in the war.

There is a very large difference between allowing Israel to buy weapons from the US and involving the US military in a new war.

Biden does not control the IDF. Biden does control the US military.

 

[emperus]

Biden would have the power to choose to not order the US military to participate in the war.

There is a very large difference between allowing Israel to buy weapons from the US and involving the US military in a new war.

Biden does not control the IDF. Biden does control the US military.

If Israel is overwhelmed do you think Biden would sit back and watch?

 

[fskimospy]

If Israel is overwhelmed do you think Biden would sit back and watch?

Is your idea that Iran is going to conquer Israel?

 

[brycejones]

If Israel is overwhelmed do you think Biden would sit back and watch?

Israel isn't going to be overwhelmed. No one in the region has the ability project that much force.

 

[Brovane]

If Israel is overwhelmed do you think Biden would sit back and watch?

What military in the region has the ability to overwhelm Israeli's military?

 

[Dave_5k]

Gaza update - 2/3 of all buildings visibly damaged or destroyed from satellite images. 2/3 of all roads similarly damaged or destroyed. 2/3 of crop fields also severely damaged as visible on satellite.

Basically randomly drop enough large bombs to crater 2/3 of the entirety of Gaza and you’d have similar results.

UNOSAT

unosat.org

 

[emperus]

Is your idea that Iran is going to conquer Israel?

No, but there is a situation where this becomes a regional conflict. And what happens then. Will the US sit on the sidelines?

And there is a huge gap between Israel being conquered and Israel needing the US's help. And that is the exact reason the US has so many assets there now.

 

[borosp1]

Israel struck Russia's Hmeimim Air Base on the coast of west Syria near Jableh. Both Syrian and Russian air defenses were active but failed to intercept the strikes. The significance of this development cannot be overstated. The Iranian dictatorship uses Hamas, Hezbollah, and other terrorist groups to attack Israel. Russia is not only militarily and politically allied with Iran, but was involved in assisting Hamas in the execution of 10/7.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1841676141276627351

 

[MrSquished]

Bibi is really trying hard to throw this election to Trump

 

[MangoX]

What did Al Jazeera’s investigation into Israeli war crimes in Gaza reveal?

The I-Unit investigated thousands of videos and photos posted to social media by Israeli soldiers.

www.aljazeera.com

This is crazy sick shit. Pure genocide. The scenes of the IDF escorting the people out, telling them to hold white flags in the air, and picking out people out of the line and stripping them to their undies, hands tied behind their backs and blind folded. Just watching this brings me to tears.

I was there in the Khmer genocide. I was just a young boy and these brings back haunting memories. My family and I luckily survived, though I lost many relatives, many of who were intellectual and some worked for the government. They were taken away from the line and killed. I also lost my grandparents to airstrikes and bombing from the US. My family and I immigrated to Canada as refugees, and a few years later was granted full citizenship.

 

[Jaskalas]

Yes more escalation is clearly the answer

If @MrSquished got their wish, a decapitation strike on Israel. That would mean defenses had failed, government / military losses. Hundreds, thousands dead. And would occur again at a whim. Probably would. Such an outcome would have been the primary scenario for the development and use of nuclear weapons.

That is why we moved to stop harm to Israel. Even if we also need to move to stop Israel from harming others.

Thankfully for Iran, the Middle East, and the world at large... the defenses appeared to work again and full retaliation is not necessarily the only move.

 

[Drach]

No, but there is a situation where this becomes a regional conflict. And what happens then. Will the US sit on the sidelines?

And there is a huge gap between Israel being conquered and Israel needing the US's help. And that is the exact reason the US has so many assets there now.

The US will never put boots on the ground for Israel.
Yahoo made his bed. Now he can lie in it.

 

[amenx]

I can see the price of oil shoot above $100-150 if they strike their oil fields. Iran will disrupt the flow of other countries oil through the strait of Hormuz if that happens.

 

[Perknose]

How Settler Violence Serves Israel’s Interests​

^^^ FP paywalled

The gist of the article:

"Since the 2000s, two armies within the IDF have gradually formed; alongside the official army, a policing force has emerged in the Israeli-controlled West Bank. This policing army comprises an infantry brigade permanently stationed in the region, units of the border police, and settler militias armed and trained by the IDF for ostensibly self-defense. Unlike the official army, this policing army is informally controlled by a matrix rather than a hierarchical structure, characterized by a network of informal agencies, the most important of which are the settlers’ communities and their politically powerful leadership.

While the official task of this policing army is, among other things, to protect both Palestinian and Jewish communities, its unofficial task is to promote the quiet annexation of parts of the West Bank and prevent territorial contiguity of the Palestinian Authority. To this end, the policing army needs settler violence to carry out what official Israel cannot."

 

[Fenixgoon]

Some of the damage to Gaza mapped. Absolutely horrifying. I know because of politics there isn't much the US will do right now. But when (I hope) Harris takes the helm, I really hope she gives Bibi the finger.

https://www.npr.org/2024/10/09/g-s1-27175/israel-hamas-war-gaza-map

 

[mikeymikec]

Israel struck Russia's Hmeimim Air Base on the coast of west Syria near Jableh. Both Syrian and Russian air defenses were active but failed to intercept the strikes. The significance of this development cannot be overstated. The Iranian dictatorship uses Hamas, Hezbollah, and other terrorist groups to attack Israel. Russia is not only militarily and politically allied with Iran, but was involved in assisting Hamas in the execution of 10/7.

To quote a ~20 year old prophecy:

"Ruling out the icecaps melting, meteors crashing into us, the ozone layer leaving, and the sun exploding, we're definitely going to blow ourselves up. Hockai..."

 

[manly]

Some of the damage to Gaza mapped. Absolutely horrifying. I know because of politics there isn't much the US will do right now. But when (I hope) Harris takes the helm, I really hope she gives Bibi the finger.

https://www.npr.org/2024/10/09/g-s1-27175/israel-hamas-war-gaza-map

More evidence in the "self defense" column:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/11/middleeast/food-northern-gaza-starvation-un-intl/index.html

 

[blankslate]

A new video from Democracy Now which covers remarks by a survivor of the Atomic Bombs dropping on Japan about how the aftermath resembles another area that's been flattened over time by kilotons of conventional explosives dropped over a the past months to year.

I think any politician who ignores this or refuses to take steps to stop it is either racist or genocidal or lacks the courage (to say nothing of the basic moral integrity) to take action to stop the behaviors of those who are.



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[blankslate]

Maybe some people accept uncomfortable facts presented in a more satirical manner so.

here we go.

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[Jaskalas]

Looks like Iranian(?) drones have scored a substantial hit on Israel from Lebanon.
Chances of striking Iran and carpet bombing Lebanon harder are increasing.

At least 67 injured in drone strike in Binyamina, 4 in critical condition

Another 5 in serious condition and many others in moderate condition following Hezbollah UAVs launched from Lebanon; 'There was a crazy boom without any siren warning'; Initial investigation found the drone was pursued by Israeli Air Force units but was lost at some point before it detonated ​

 

[Dave_5k]

Looks like Iranian(?) drones have scored a substantial hit on Israel from Lebanon.
Chances of striking Iran and carpet bombing Lebanon harder are increasing.

At least 67 injured in drone strike in Binyamina, 4 in critical condition

Another 5 in serious condition and many others in moderate condition following Hezbollah UAVs launched from Lebanon; 'There was a crazy boom without any siren warning'; Initial investigation found the drone was pursued by Israeli Air Force units but was lost at some point before it detonated ​

Yes, Hezbollah retaliates by hitting a military training ground ~ therefore Israel will "have" to respond with additional carpet bombing targeting at least 100x that many civilians, per standard Israeli policy.