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Noobtastic

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They rejected it because it wasn't delivered by the proper people and Israel had stolen half of it.

There was thousands of tons of aid....so source?

LOL!!!!

You are so dense. It was rejected because the aid on the ship was worthless. the ship was meant to cause a reaction, the cargo was not aid but weapons - and i just provided PROOF.

you provide proof for your statements, you cannot.

Oh no, it would be used to build and repair houses. Israel doesn't want them gettin in the way of their illegal settlements.

no, it would be used to build hamas fortresses and re-build homes used to store rockets.

and, as you would know - israel destroyed all the "settlements" in gaza.

By taking it right to Gaza ports. Which they were doing until they were attacked by Israel.

Edit: Oh yeah, are you one of those hasbara/megaphone people?

WRONG troll. it is illegal to challenge a blockade. if gaza was being denied humanitarian aid, the UN would probably be bitching and moaning to endlessly.

TELL ME, why did Hamas reject the aid on the gaza border?

WHY FLAVIO? because it was tainted by israel?

you are out of this world man.
 

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Duca might be slow but he is finally getting it, the flotilla activists have a goal of breaking what they feel is an unjust Israeli blockade, and now Bozo Netanyuhu is showing, for all the world to see, that the flotilla activists are morally correct. And that not is Israeli wrong now, Israel has been on the wrong and unjust course for at least 60 years.


Well thanks for the validation that these fools only care about having their names in the press. They don't actually care about then notion of "getting aid to the starving children of Gaza" because it is just secondary to their attention whoring antics.
 

Noobtastic

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If the Israelis hadn't attacked the ship there would be no death toll.

LOL, you are a fool.

if the ship wasn't loaded with homicidal muslims, there would be no death toll, as there was no death toll on any of the other flotilla ships, and the recently boarded rachel corrie.
 

flavio

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You are so dense. It was rejected because the aid on the ship was worthless.

No, there was thousands of tons of very worthwhile aid.

the ship was meant to cause a reaction, the cargo was not aid but weapons - and i just provided PROOF.

Where is your proof of weapons?

no, it would be used to build hamas fortresses and re-build homes used to store rockets.

No, it would be used to repair and build houses.

WRONG troll. it is illegal to challenge a blockade. if gaza was being denied humanitarian aid, the UN would probably be bitching and moaning to endlessly.

WRONG troll, the blockade is illegal and Israel has been told as much by the UN.

TELL ME, why did Hamas reject the aid on the gaza border?

I already told you, but here:

"Gaza officials have refused roughly 20 truckloads of aid confiscated from the "Freedom Flotilla," saying the goods were broken and that they would not accept goods while any flotilla activists were still detained,"

http://palestinenote.com/cs/blogs/n...refuses-broken-goods-delivered-by-israel.aspx

WHY FLAVIO? because it was tainted by israel?

you are out of this world man.

Are you one of those hasbara/megaphone people?
 

flavio

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LOL, you are a fool.

You resort to childish insults often when you have no point.

if the ship wasn't loaded with homicidal muslims, there would be no death toll, as there was no death toll on any of the other flotilla ships, and the recently boarded rachel corrie.

Homicidal muslims...LOL.

There were injuries on the other ships and if Israel hadn't attacked this ship there would be no death toll.
 

flavio

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Well thanks for the validation that these fools only care about having their names in the press. They don't actually care about then notion of "getting aid to the starving children of Gaza" because it is just secondary to their attention whoring antics.

Bringing attention to the illegal blockade will allow much more aid to get to the people Israel is "putting on a diet".
 

Noobtastic

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No, there was thousands of tons of very worthwhile aid.



Where is your proof of weapons?



No, it would be used to repair and build houses.



WRONG troll, the blockade is illegal and Israel has been told as much by the UN.



I already told you, but here:

"Gaza officials have refused roughly 20 truckloads of aid confiscated from the "Freedom Flotilla," saying the goods were broken and that they would not accept goods while any flotilla activists were still detained,"

http://palestinenote.com/cs/blogs/n...refuses-broken-goods-delivered-by-israel.aspx

WHY FLAVIO? because it was tainted by israel?



Are you one of those hasbara/megaphone people?

all you are doing is repeating yourself.

"goods" were broken, LOL. of course hamas wont accept the aid until activists are released, because the activists were hamas supporters, some of them turkish commandos that would probably train hamas militants if they landed on site.

why else did they have bullet proof vests with turkish flags, night vision goggles, and AMMO that does not match standard NATO numbers.

are you one of the most pallywood idiots that can't accept the truth? the flotilla was ladden with jihadist. videos showing "activists" attacking soldiers and shouting "jews are dogs."

a retard you are.
 

flavio

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all you are doing is repeating yourself.

No, that's all you're doing.

"goods" were broken, LOL. of course hamas wont accept the aid until activists are released, because the activists were hamas supporters, some of them turkish commandos that would probably train hamas militants if they landed on site.

Lie.

"Gaza officials have refused roughly 20 truckloads of aid confiscated from the "Freedom Flotilla," saying the goods were broken and that they would not accept goods while any flotilla activists were still detained,"


why else did they have bullet proof vests with turkish flags, night vision goggles, and AMMO that does not match standard NATO numbers.

Source?

the flotilla was ladden with jihadist.

Lie.

videos showing "activists" attacking soldiers and shouting "jews are dogs."

Videos clearly show IDF attacking the ship and they even fired on it before they boarded. The passengers defended themselves.

a retard you are.

Childish insults again when you have no point.

Are you ever going to answer the question if you're one of those hasbara/megaphone people?

I find it very telling that you've avoided it so many times.
 
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senseamp

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Yeah because that flotilla isn't just one big PR goal in and of itself.

It exerted a diplomatic toll on Israel for blockading civilian goods, which is likely to lead to change of policy. So big PR is not goal in and of itself, but it helps with the actual goal of changing the blockade.
 

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It exerted a diplomatic toll on Israel for blockading civilian goods, which is likely to lead to change of policy. So big PR is not goal in and of itself, but it helps with the actual goal of changing the blockade.

israel isn't blockading civilian goods, or else it wouldn't be delivering millions of lbs of aid a day while the "allies" of the palestinians do squat.

what obligation does israel have over gaza? it doesnt have to do shit for gaza, any less than SK has to do shit for NK etc...etc...
 

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Ex - US Marine beaten by Israelis....

Gaza activist 'beaten in Israeli jail'
By Channel 4 News Updated on 04 June 2010
While Channel 4 News learns of alleged violence against activists being held in Israel following the Gaza flotilla raid Lindsey Hilsum reports on the fears of violence as another ship prepares to dock.


An Irish-American activist has been hospitalised after allegedly suffering beatings at the hands of Israeli security forces.

In an email Kenneth O'Keefe's partner writes: "Having already been complaining of dizziness following his first beating by Israeli police, Ken was beaten again last night in his cell.

"He has been taken to hospital where he is receiving treatment for his injuries. I am unsure as to whether he was taken against his will."

Channel 4 News understands that O'Keefe wanted to appeal his deportation and go on into Gaza, but his solicitor advised him that he should leave Israel for his own safety.


He is believed to have signed emergency travel documents provided to him by the Irish Consulate and was booked on a flight to Istanbul on Wednesday afternoon where he was to be met by staff form the Irish Embassy.

But as hundreds of activists were being deported from Ben Gurion airport, a scuffle broke out in which O'Keefe sustained injuries.

Fellow activist Dr Lane claimed Ken O'Keefe was beaten by security officials at the airport before boarding, saying "His injuries were so bad that he had to be hospitalised in Tel Aviv."

The email from O'Keefe's partner continues: "Ken is still on hunger strike, although he is taking water. Israeli officials have asked him to clean him self up as his clothes are bloody and he is quite dishevelled. He refuses, as he wants the world to see what has happened to him."

Israelis shrug off outrage over Gaza flotilla



O'Keefe is a former marine who served in the 1991 Gulf War. He said he renounced his US citizenship in protest over America's "funding of war, death and murder". He has been active in many international human rights campaigns and in 2003 he started Human Shield, the volunteer mission of peace activists who acted as human shields in Iraq.

A dedicated peace activist Ken O'Keefe says on his website: "We have been conditioned to be selfish, ignorant and destructive. But our true nature is quite the opposite. Raised with love, protected from danger, allowed to be free, we are a most magnificent of species. In a sane and natural state we shall exemplify the 'golden rule' and we will have peace."

In a telephone conversation in the last 48 hours O'Keefe told fellow activists: "I want to discuss my role in defending the ship and disarming two Israeli commandos along with conditions and treatment while in Israeli custody, including two beatings at the hands of Israeli agents."

The Department of Foreign Affairs in Ireland reports that O'Keefe has now flown out of Tel Aviv and will undergo a full medical examination when he arrives in Istanbul.

The DFA told Channel 4 news 'Mr O’Keefe has alleged that he was assaulted while in the detention centre, and he has sustained injuries. The Irish Ambassador has lodged an official protest with the Israeli authorities concerning the treatment of a number of the Irish detainees.'

Hundreds of foreign nationals are still awaiting deportation from Israel; the Foreign and Commonwealth Office says British activists there are receiving Consular support.

The FCO told Channel 4 News it hadn't received any complaints of mistreatment from the Britons held, but added: "Should one of those who was detained wish us to we would take up any justified complaint about ill-treatment with the relevant authorities.'

Nine people were killed in fighting when Israeli forces boarded the Mavi Marmara on Monday. One of the victims been named as 19 year old US citizen Furkan Dogan, who died after suffering 'gunshot wounds'.

http://www.channel4.com/news/articl...tivist+aposbeaten+in+israeli+jailapos/3669527
 

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No, that's all you're doing.



Lie.

"Gaza officials have refused roughly 20 truckloads of aid confiscated from the "Freedom Flotilla," saying the goods were broken and that they would not accept goods while any flotilla activists were still detained,"

ive seen you use that quote like 5 times already. how is IHV repeating what he has said compared to you?




Source?

where are your sources?



Lie.



Videos clearly show IDF attacking the ship and they even fired on it before they boarded. The passengers defended themselves.

Source?

and people ON the ship do not count as sources. they want to bash israel with whatever they can, lies can do that.

ie; they want to see what sticks to the wall

Videos PROVE israelis landed on to a ship with maniacs.

PROOF shows that many on the ship wanted to die as martyrs.

PROOF shows that you are wrong. EVERY arguement you make, have made, or will make are simply and inverted view of PROOF.

if I tell you 1+1= 2, you will come back and say 1-1 = 2
 

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But as hundreds of activists were being deported from Ben Gurion airport, a scuffle broke out in which O'Keefe sustained injuries.
A FIGHT HAPPENED and he didnt expect injuries?


YAY for distorted views.

This man is on a hunger strike, wants to stay in Gaza, was part of a scuffle, and is on a deportation list.


HE IS ORDERED DEPORTED. He doesnt have a right to stay. why should I feel bad about someone who is trying to protest his deportation and gets in a fight with armed soldiers whose jobs are to enforce the deportation?

oh yea...
Ex - US Marine beaten by Israelis....

He has chosen himself to revoke his american citizenship. who gives a shit if he is an ex-marine?

Did you complain when Obama gave the order to kill Alwar al- kalwaki (name is something like that)? he was born in america, but is now part of al qaeda

 
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senseamp

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israel isn't blockading civilian goods, or else it wouldn't be delivering millions of lbs of aid a day while the "allies" of the palestinians do squat.

what obligation does israel have over gaza? it doesnt have to do shit for gaza, any less than SK has to do shit for NK etc...etc...

It's blockading some civilian goods. Just because it's delivering some, doesn't mean it's not blockading some. That is flawed logic, expected from you. Noone is asking Israel to do sh!t for Gaza, just stop interfering with deliveries of civilian goods there.
 

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ive seen you use that quote like 5 times already. how is IHV repeating what he has said compared to you?

That is a quote with a source that proves IHV unsourced claim wrong.

where are your sources?

I've got lots of them. Anything specific you'd like a source for?


Sure, even other apologists have admitted Israel attacked first.

"The crack of an Israeli sound grenade and a hail of rubber bullets from above were supposed to disperse activists, but instead set them in motion."

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/05/world/europe/05reconstruct.html?ref=world

Also:
http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0531/raw-video-reporter-claims-israelis-fired-activists-boarding-ship/

Also one of your fellow apologists:

Pulsar: They have already admitted to shooting rubber bullets and using concussion grenades to try to protect their landing people.

Videos PROVE israelis landed on to a ship with maniacs.

All videos show Israelis attacking a humanitarian ship in international waters and the passengers defending themselves.

PROOF shows that you are wrong.

Link to proof showing I'm wrong?
 

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A FIGHT HAPPENED and he didnt expect injuries?

You seem to have had some trouble reading the article.

"Having already been complaining of dizziness following his first beating by Israeli police, Ken was beaten again last night in his cell."
 

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Shit's really hitting the fan now.

Northern Ireland Condemns Israeli Raid on Rachel Corrie,
“Completely unacceptable Use of Force”Posted on June 5, 2010 by Juan
In what N. Irish Deputy First Minister Martin McGuinness described as a “raid,” the Israeli Navy again commandeered an unarmed, peaceful ship in international waters, the Rachel Corrie, in a bid to prevent wheel chairs from reaching the blockaded people of Gaza, an Occupied Territory of which Israel controls the borders, air and sea.

The Irish government (the ship took off from Ireland) is furious. And for once it is agreed with by Northern Ireland in the UK, with the deputy first minister condemning the raid as a “completely unacceptable and unjustified use of force”.

McGuinness insisted, “The Rachel Corrie should have been allowed to proceed to Gaza without Israeli aggression,” adding, “This is an attack on an Irish flagged vessel and it demands a strong response by the Irish government.”

http://www.juancole.com/2010/06/ire...rie-completely-unacceptable-use-of-force.html
 
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