Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Originally posted by: envy me
Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Originally posted by: envy me
Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Originally posted by: envy me
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
I am unsure about the situation for this attack. It was an air strike targeting a place where civilians and terrorists were together. So I am assuming it is some sort of building, or street, or other "location". Proper precautions were not taken to isolate the terrorists from the civilians.
I'm not sure what exactly they could have done in a time of war. What is your suggestion? I personally expect civilian deaths in a war.
I don't see how any civilian would willfully hangout in a place occupied by military groups in a time of war (asside from journalists and reporters)
Who knows...we don't even know if these people were killed from a stray missile or anything else.
Instead of these "precision strikes" which cause collateral damage. Why not send in tanks and troops and isolate the few terrorists. It's very easy to be hiding away in the sky and firing rockets. The number of civilians killed in the Lebanon side far outnumber the number of Israeli's involved. "Air strikes" are their solution to everything.
LOL, I love how you display your utter ignorance. The people Israel is going after are not going to just wait around while tanks come after them. Good lord you are stupid.
So you agree with their careless missile firing tactics in which innocents get killed then?
1) Define "innocent." Much of the Lebonese population supports Hezbollah. I'm not saying that it makes everything right, but it is a consideration.
Innocent meaning civilians. Not armed fundamentalists. People like you or I who live and work in peace.
2) This is war. Innocent people get killed. Try to find a war where innocent people don't get killed.
If it is war then how come the official Lebanese army is not involved?
3) Read your last statement. Which side are you talking about? The Lebanese are firing unguided rockets into Israel. They are specifically targeting "innocent civilians." The Israeli forces are firing rockets into Lebanon. The only different between the two sides is that the Israeli rockets are targeted, meaning they are trying to hit a certain structure whereas the Lebanese are firing in the general direction of cities. Based on that, I would say the Lebanese are more in the wrong than the Israelis (note that I said more in the wrong because both sides are in the wrong here). The point is, the Israeli's ARE killing civilians, but it does not appear to be intentional while the Lebanese are killing civilians are it DOES appear to be intentional.
Firstly Hezbollah, NOT the Lebanese are firing the rockets. Secondly, they were firing the rockets at military bases.
4) All members of Hezbollah are listed as civilians in death statistics.
Proof? Links? Articles? Anything to back that up?
I'd be happy to help out. First, Hezbollah has been firing the rockets at population centers. I have NO CLUE where you have gotten the idea that they were doing anything different. The rockets being fired are UNGUIDED. The odds of it hitting a military base are very, very small. They have to fire hundreds to hit a military base once. Sure, you can say that they are trying to hit military bases, but the only way you can say that is knowing that they are much, much more likely to hit civilians. Since they keep firing them even though most that do hit something actually hit civilians, then they are in reality knowlingly targeting civilians. Oh, and here's your
proof. Read through any of the stories. In fact, here's one about them hitting a
train station. Even better, how about
Al Jazeera admitting that they target cities.
Furthermore, Hezbollah is a PART OF LEBANON. They are a recognized political party in the country and (as of 2003 at least) had
11 members in parliment. To note, I am not saying they *control* all of Lebanon, only that they are a top player.
To get to your last point re the involvement of the Lebanese army. From my understanding they have not gotten involved because it is not an invasion with the intent to occupy. There are two key ideas you need to be aware of. First, the Israeli army is superior in every respect. The Lebanese will lost in a battle. Second, there is no way Israel will stay in the country for very long, it will have to bow to international political pressure. Because of this, there is no reason for the Lebanese military to be destroyed for no significant gain.