Israeli terrorist attack kills 8 Canadians

[jimkyser]

Originally posted by: dexvx

Originally posted by: Ronstang
If you stay in a war zone you may be killed especially if you hang out near potential targets. Doesn't take a huge IQ to figure that one out. Vacationing anywhere in that region of the world is such a huge risk that it makes absolutely no sense to do so. Stay in the First World if you expect safety.

You never had any respect for Israel to begin with so don't pretend like you ever did. You are one of the Muslim apologists around here and make attempts to justify just about anything they do in the world.

When Isreal destroys roads leading out of Lebenon, blockade the ports, and render the airport inoperable, tell me, oh wise one, how are you supposed to GTFO.

You're supposed to get in your car and drive from town to town trying to keep ahead of the IDF target list and hope one of the IDF fighter jets doesn't find you out on the open road.

 

[bctbct]

Originally posted by: jimkyser

Originally posted by: bctbct

Originally posted by: jimkyser

No, I have missed nothing, This is a thread about a group of Canadian nationals in Lebanon on vacation. They happen to be there when fighting erupts between Hezbollah and Israel. They get killed by an Israeli airstrike. The pro-Israeli crowd here comes out and blames these dead people for their fate because they should have gotten out of Lebanon as soon as the fighting started. They also completely deny any fault on Israel's part even though Israel has made it pretty much impossible to leave the country. So your subtle difference of it being being only a nuisance for the long term is totally unimportant. The fact is these people couldn't get out of Lebanon and Israel is very much responsible for that.

Sorry when you go to a area of the world that is known for all sorts of violence, dont expect others to pity you when bad things occur.

So I guess you have no pity for the citizens of Israel then either, eh? After all they live in the same dangerous region of the world. So if Hezbollah kills some more of them with one of their rocket attacks, it's just too bad, right?

The fundamental difference between those two senarios is someone lives there, the other person visits there. I would never visit the middle east, too hostile.

So the Canadians had a choice, Israelis living in Israel are pretty much stuck.

 

[jimkyser]

Originally posted by: bctbct

Originally posted by: jimkyser

Originally posted by: bctbct

Originally posted by: jimkyser

No, I have missed nothing, This is a thread about a group of Canadian nationals in Lebanon on vacation. They happen to be there when fighting erupts between Hezbollah and Israel. They get killed by an Israeli airstrike. The pro-Israeli crowd here comes out and blames these dead people for their fate because they should have gotten out of Lebanon as soon as the fighting started. They also completely deny any fault on Israel's part even though Israel has made it pretty much impossible to leave the country. So your subtle difference of it being being only a nuisance for the long term is totally unimportant. The fact is these people couldn't get out of Lebanon and Israel is very much responsible for that.

Sorry when you go to a area of the world that is known for all sorts of violence, dont expect others to pity you when bad things occur.

So I guess you have no pity for the citizens of Israel then either, eh? After all they live in the same dangerous region of the world. So if Hezbollah kills some more of them with one of their rocket attacks, it's just too bad, right?

The fundamental difference between those two senarios is someone lives there, the other person visits there. I would never visit the middle east, too hostile.

So the Canadians had a choice, Israelis living in Israel are pretty much stuck.

So how about US citizens of Jewish decent who study in Israel. Several of them have been killed by suicide bombers. Did you have any pity for them? They're just visiting, too. And if you want to narrow down your comment by saying these students had a family tie to Israel, well so did these Canadians have a family tie to Lebanon, they were immigrants to Canada from Lebanon. This was their ancestral home.

 

[lozina]

Originally posted by: bctbct

Originally posted by: jimkyser

Originally posted by: bctbct

Originally posted by: jimkyser

No, I have missed nothing, This is a thread about a group of Canadian nationals in Lebanon on vacation. They happen to be there when fighting erupts between Hezbollah and Israel. They get killed by an Israeli airstrike. The pro-Israeli crowd here comes out and blames these dead people for their fate because they should have gotten out of Lebanon as soon as the fighting started. They also completely deny any fault on Israel's part even though Israel has made it pretty much impossible to leave the country. So your subtle difference of it being being only a nuisance for the long term is totally unimportant. The fact is these people couldn't get out of Lebanon and Israel is very much responsible for that.

Sorry when you go to a area of the world that is known for all sorts of violence, dont expect others to pity you when bad things occur.

So I guess you have no pity for the citizens of Israel then either, eh? After all they live in the same dangerous region of the world. So if Hezbollah kills some more of them with one of their rocket attacks, it's just too bad, right?

The fundamental difference between those two senarios is someone lives there, the other person visits there. I would never visit the middle east, too hostile.

So the Canadians had a choice, Israelis living in Israel are pretty much stuck.

They could just as easily choose to move out.

(just trying to follow your logic here- not suggesting anyone actually move)

 

[bctbct]

Originally posted by: lozina

So I guess you have no pity for the citizens of Israel then either, eh? After all they live in the same dangerous region of the world. So if Hezbollah kills some more of them with one of their rocket attacks, it's just too bad, right?
[/quote]


The fundamental difference between those two senarios is someone lives there, the other person visits there. I would never visit the middle east, too hostile.

So the Canadians had a choice, Israelis living in Israel are pretty much stuck.[/quote]

They could just as easily choose to move out.

(just trying to follow your logic here- not suggesting anyone actually move)[/quote]

No, you could not just as easily move as you could pick a vacation spot.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: lozina
Oh please, where is the proof these Lebanese people are responsible for the abduction of those 2 soldiers? These 8 Canadians must also have been involved too right?

Why would you ask for proof of something that I never said? I think you need to get a little less emotional before you post again.

To Osama Bin Laden, of course the US did something to warrant his so-called war. He laid out the problems he had with America in the taped speeches he made. His reasons for war on America are about as stupid as Israel's reasons for attacking Lebanese civilians.

And YES Israel is specificaly targetting civilians! WTF do you think an International Airport is or a Power Station or a public highway? Is that not civilian? Well then what about the apartment buildings full of families and villages they have bombed? They could hit a hospital full of babies and you'd find a way to justify it.

I'm not sure if you realize this...but an airport or a road isn't a human being. It isn't a civilian.

No, I wouldn't find a way to justify Israel specifically targetting civilians. I actually don't like Israel as I don't like religious states. However, I do expect some civilian deaths in a war like this.

All we have are the hollow words of Israeli officials who continue to insist they don't want to kill civilians, and those empty words seems to satsify you. But meanwhile they continue to slaughter countless civilians as they bomb their houses and infrastrure. It's like the movie Mars Attacks where the aliens are killing anyone on the street they come accross while an audio recording is blasting "we come in peace. we don't want to hurt you".

It is hardly a slaughter.

Would you like a tissue to wipe your tears with that? How bout a side of fries?

Hey, you're the one that is being so emotional. Save the tissue for yourself.

Why would I want a side of fries with a tissue? Are you saying that you're some sort of fast food worker? I guess that makes some sense then...

 

[lozina]

Originally posted by: bctbct

Originally posted by: lozina

So I guess you have no pity for the citizens of Israel then either, eh? After all they live in the same dangerous region of the world. So if Hezbollah kills some more of them with one of their rocket attacks, it's just too bad, right?

The fundamental difference between those two senarios is someone lives there, the other person visits there. I would never visit the middle east, too hostile.

So the Canadians had a choice, Israelis living in Israel are pretty much stuck.[/quote]

They could just as easily choose to move out.

(just trying to follow your logic here- not suggesting anyone actually move)[/quote]

No, you could not just as easily move as you could pick a vacation spot.

[/quote]

Guess you better tell that to the Lebanese people who are being told by Israel to leave because their house is going to go up in smoke

 

[bctbct]

Originally posted by: jimkyser

Originally posted by: bctbct

Originally posted by: jimkyser

Originally posted by: bctbct

Originally posted by: jimkyser

No, I have missed nothing, This is a thread about a group of Canadian nationals in Lebanon on vacation. They happen to be there when fighting erupts between Hezbollah and Israel. They get killed by an Israeli airstrike. The pro-Israeli crowd here comes out and blames these dead people for their fate because they should have gotten out of Lebanon as soon as the fighting started. They also completely deny any fault on Israel's part even though Israel has made it pretty much impossible to leave the country. So your subtle difference of it being being only a nuisance for the long term is totally unimportant. The fact is these people couldn't get out of Lebanon and Israel is very much responsible for that.

Sorry when you go to a area of the world that is known for all sorts of violence, dont expect others to pity you when bad things occur.

So I guess you have no pity for the citizens of Israel then either, eh? After all they live in the same dangerous region of the world. So if Hezbollah kills some more of them with one of their rocket attacks, it's just too bad, right?

The fundamental difference between those two senarios is someone lives there, the other person visits there. I would never visit the middle east, too hostile.

So the Canadians had a choice, Israelis living in Israel are pretty much stuck.

So how about US citizens of Jewish decent who study in Israel. Several of them have been killed by suicide bombers. Did you have any pity for them? They're just visiting, too. And if you want to narrow down your comment by saying these students had a family tie to Israel, well so did these Canadians have a family tie to Lebanon, they were immigrants to Canada from Lebanon. This was their ancestral home.

I do feel for innocent bystanders, but you are trying to blame a country for taking actions, saying they should not have bombed what they considered a strategic target because someone from Canada might be in there.

Its not that simple. If it was we wouldnt have dropped ANY bombs in Iraq.

 

[jimkyser]

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: bctbct

Originally posted by: lozina

So I guess you have no pity for the citizens of Israel then either, eh? After all they live in the same dangerous region of the world. So if Hezbollah kills some more of them with one of their rocket attacks, it's just too bad, right?

The fundamental difference between those two senarios is someone lives there, the other person visits there. I would never visit the middle east, too hostile.

So the Canadians had a choice, Israelis living in Israel are pretty much stuck.

They could just as easily choose to move out.

(just trying to follow your logic here- not suggesting anyone actually move)[/quote]

No, you could not just as easily move as you could pick a vacation spot.

[/quote]

Guess you better tell that to the Lebanese people who are being told by Israel to leave because their house is going to go up in smoke
[/quote]
And while they are being told to leave, all the actual methods of leaving are being shut off by the same people who are going to blow up the house.

 

[bctbct]

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: bctbct

Originally posted by: lozina

So I guess you have no pity for the citizens of Israel then either, eh? After all they live in the same dangerous region of the world. So if Hezbollah kills some more of them with one of their rocket attacks, it's just too bad, right?

The fundamental difference between those two senarios is someone lives there, the other person visits there. I would never visit the middle east, too hostile.

So the Canadians had a choice, Israelis living in Israel are pretty much stuck.

They could just as easily choose to move out.

(just trying to follow your logic here- not suggesting anyone actually move)[/quote]

No, you could not just as easily move as you could pick a vacation spot.

[/quote]

Guess you better tell that to the Lebanese people who are being told by Israel to leave because their house is going to go up in smoke


[/quote]


Touche, guess they should have suggested they take a vacation to Canada.

 

[lozina]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: lozina
Oh please, where is the proof these Lebanese people are responsible for the abduction of those 2 soldiers? These 8 Canadians must also have been involved too right?

Why would you ask for proof of something that I never said? I think you need to get a little less emotional before you post again.

You said:

"It's not anywhere near a massacre. Israel is targetting the country's infrastructure as they are responsible for what has really happened. "

Was that your friend posting on your behalf then?

I'm not sure if you realize this...but an airport or a road isn't a human being. It isn't a civilian.

Is it a civilian airport or a military one? Who works at this airport? Who uses it? Maybe you need to take your head out of the sand before you try to answer.

 

[bctbct]

Originally posted by: jimkyser

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: bctbct

Originally posted by: lozina

So I guess you have no pity for the citizens of Israel then either, eh? After all they live in the same dangerous region of the world. So if Hezbollah kills some more of them with one of their rocket attacks, it's just too bad, right?

The fundamental difference between those two senarios is someone lives there, the other person visits there. I would never visit the middle east, too hostile.

So the Canadians had a choice, Israelis living in Israel are pretty much stuck.

They could just as easily choose to move out.

(just trying to follow your logic here- not suggesting anyone actually move)

No, you could not just as easily move as you could pick a vacation spot.

[/quote]

Guess you better tell that to the Lebanese people who are being told by Israel to leave because their house is going to go up in smoke
[/quote]
And while they are being told to leave, all the actual methods of leaving are being shut off by the same people who are going to blow up the house.[/quote]


Did it ever enter your mind that they didnt want passenger planes in the air targeting Israel?

 

[SarcasticDwarf]

Originally posted by: jimkyser

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf

Originally posted by: jimkyser

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf

Originally posted by: jimkyser
OK, to be absolutely correct, the runway has several giant craters in it, compliments of the IDF, making it completly useless. You can't get out of Lebanon via the Beruit airport. Israel is also destroying the roads out of Lebanon to Syria, so you can't drive out. Israel is also blockading the country by sea so you can't get out by boat. So how are supposed to get out?

That's quite true, but there is a big difference between leveling an airport and taking out the runways. When you destroy the runways, you remove the ability to use the runways for 2+ days. When you completely destroy an airport ("blow it up"), you make the entire airport completely unusable for at least a month or two. If the intent of Israel was to completely destroy the infrastrure, they would have destroyed the whole airport.

Ah, but if you return a day or two later and blow up any repairs that have been made, as the IDF has done, you can keep the airport unuseable for as long as you want. Today they also blew up several fuel storage tanks, so the airplanes can't get fuel even if the runway was useable. On top of that, if you were to try to use a smaller airport, the IDF has declared an air blockade so they would most likely shoot you down. The fact is that you can't get out of Lebanon right now no matter how hard you want and the IDF is doing everything they can to keep it that way.

Right, but I think you are missing a subtle difference. The attacks so far by Israel have been a nuisance at worst regarding the infastructure. Everything so far can be repaired in a couple of weeks. The attacks are by no means "devastating." Israel has been showing restraint in its attacks. If they really wanted to screw the country over for a long time, they could very easily do so by destroying all of the bridges and major roads in the country.

No, I have missed nothing, This is a thread about a group of Canadian nationals in Lebanon on vacation. They happen to be there when fighting erupts between Hezbollah and Israel. They get killed by an Israeli airstrike. The pro-Israeli crowd here comes out and blames these dead people for their fate because they should have gotten out of Lebanon as soon as the fighting started. They also completely deny any fault on Israel's part even though Israel has made it pretty much impossible to leave the country. So your subtle difference of it being being only a nuisance for the long term is totally unimportant. The fact is these people couldn't get out of Lebanon and Israel is very much responsible for that.

No, you did miss something. Let's lay out a few facts here. Eight Canadians died. Israel did not intentionally target them. The attacks by Israel have not permanently crippled the Lebanese infastructure. The attacks by Israel have temporarily broken down transportation in and out of the country.

Hezbolla has been operating out of Lebanon with the full consent and support of the government and a large part of the population. Hezbollah (and therefore Lebanese) attacks on Israel in the past few years have killed far more civilians than the current Israeli attacks on Lebanon.

 

[envy me]

Originally posted by: bctbct

Originally posted by: jimkyser

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: bctbct

Originally posted by: lozina

So I guess you have no pity for the citizens of Israel then either, eh? After all they live in the same dangerous region of the world. So if Hezbollah kills some more of them with one of their rocket attacks, it's just too bad, right?

The fundamental difference between those two senarios is someone lives there, the other person visits there. I would never visit the middle east, too hostile.

So the Canadians had a choice, Israelis living in Israel are pretty much stuck.

They could just as easily choose to move out.

(just trying to follow your logic here- not suggesting anyone actually move)

No, you could not just as easily move as you could pick a vacation spot.

Guess you better tell that to the Lebanese people who are being told by Israel to leave because their house is going to go up in smoke
[/quote]
And while they are being told to leave, all the actual methods of leaving are being shut off by the same people who are going to blow up the house.[/quote]


Did it ever enter your mind that they didnt want passenger planes in the air targeting Israel?

[/quote]

Oh right... because it was the Lebanese who crashed into the WTC.. I'm sure with all of Israel's missile-ships flying and bombing Lebanon they would miss something like a passenger plane.

 

[jimkyser]

Originally posted by: bctbct
I do feel for innocent bystanders, but you are trying to blame a country for taking actions, saying they should not have bombed what they considered a strategic target because someone from Canada might be in there.

What a hypocrite. When finally pressed it comes out. Did it feel really good to make this statement showing absolutely no care for these Canadian innocent bystanders:

Originally posted by: bctbct
Sorry when you go to a area of the world that is known for all sorts of violence, dont expect others to pity you when bad things occur.

So under what circumstances are innocents visiting dangerous areas due any sort of feeling for their loss? Must they be Jewish? Must they be in Israel? Are all others lives of too little importance?

And you're wrong. I wasn't blaming Israel for taking any action. I was taking exception to the prevailing view of the pro-Israeli crowd here that these dead people had 100% responsibility for their death and Israel had none because they should have gotten out. Except Israel had made it impossible for them to get out by closing all exit routes. When you don't allow refugees to leave an area you are planning to attack, you ARE responsible for their safety.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: lozina
Oh please, where is the proof these Lebanese people are responsible for the abduction of those 2 soldiers? These 8 Canadians must also have been involved too right?

Why would you ask for proof of something that I never said? I think you need to get a little less emotional before you post again.

You said:

"It's not anywhere near a massacre. Israel is targetting the country's infrastructure as they are responsible for what has really happened. "

Was that your friend posting on your behalf then?

I'm not sure if you realize this...but an airport or a road isn't a human being. It isn't a civilian.

Is it a civilian airport or a military one? Who works at this airport? Who uses it? Maybe you need to take your head out of the sand before you try to answer.

I think that you're getting a little emotional because you have a very hard time reading my posts...but then again, you are a Burger King worker or something.

I never said that the Israeli military isn't bombing structures (even though Hezbollah also reportedly used them), but that they aren't intentionally targetting civilians. Again, I'm not sure if you've realized this, an airport isn't a person.

Sheesh, no wonder service at Burger King is so horrible!

 

[lozina]

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf


Hezbolla has been operating out of Lebanon with the full consent and support of the government and a large part of the population. Hezbollah (and therefore Lebanese) attacks on Israel in the past few years have killed far more civilians than the current Israeli attacks on Lebanon.

Unsubstantiated.
Speculation.
Assumption.

Hezbolah does not speak for Lebanon any more than the KKK speaks for America.

 

[envy me]

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf


Hezbolla has been operating out of Lebanon with the full consent and support of the government and a large part of the population. Hezbollah (and therefore Lebanese) attacks on Israel in the past few years have killed far more civilians than the current Israeli attacks on Lebanon.

Unsubstantiated.
Speculation.
Assumption.

Hezbolah does not speak for Lebanon any more than the KKK speaks for America.

:thumbsup:

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf


Hezbolla has been operating out of Lebanon with the full consent and support of the government and a large part of the population. Hezbollah (and therefore Lebanese) attacks on Israel in the past few years have killed far more civilians than the current Israeli attacks on Lebanon.

Unsubstantiated.
Speculation.
Assumption.

Hezbolah does not speak for Lebanon any more than the KKK speaks for America.

Has Lebanon made any significant attempt to remove Hezbollah from their midst? That is really the main question for me if this war from Israel is justified. But I'm not sure why I'm even talking about this with a Burger King employee that is apparently having emotional issues.

If the US had the KKK operating within US borders and attacking Canadians, then it would be a significant problem. The US should be making significant attempts to correct the problem. If not, then Canada should be taking action in some form. However, unlike Israel, I would have actually waited a little bit instead of heading right into war.

 

[bctbct]

Originally posted by: envy me



Did it ever enter your mind that they didnt want passenger planes in the air targeting Israel?

Oh right... because it was the Lebanese who crashed into the WTC.. I'm sure with all of Israel's missile-ships flying and bombing Lebanon they would miss something like a passenger plane.

[/quote]

When they bombed the airport it insured that Israel would not be put in a postion to shoot down a plane carrying 5 terrorists and 225 Canadians..very smart move.

Similar to the US grounding planes after 911.

 

[lozina]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: lozina
Oh please, where is the proof these Lebanese people are responsible for the abduction of those 2 soldiers? These 8 Canadians must also have been involved too right?

Why would you ask for proof of something that I never said? I think you need to get a little less emotional before you post again.

You said:

"It's not anywhere near a massacre. Israel is targetting the country's infrastructure as they are responsible for what has really happened. "

Was that your friend posting on your behalf then?

I'm not sure if you realize this...but an airport or a road isn't a human being. It isn't a civilian.

Is it a civilian airport or a military one? Who works at this airport? Who uses it? Maybe you need to take your head out of the sand before you try to answer.

I think that you're getting a little emotional because you have a very hard time reading my posts...but then again, you are a Burger King worker or something.

I never said that the Israeli military isn't bombing structures (even though Hezbollah also reportedly used them), but that they aren't intentionally targetting civilians. Again, I'm not sure if you've realized this, an airport isn't a person.

Sheesh, no wonder service at Burger King is so horrible!

You're quite the comedian. Shouldn't you be at a gig in the New York Improv tongiht or something?

Talk about reading problems. Have you even read my response? You certainly didn't address anything I stated.... or should I just assume you are avoiding it?

What's intentionally targetting civilians to you then? I guess the terrorists who blew themselves in the pizzeria in Tel Aviv wasn't intentionally targetting civilians. He was just targetting the pizzeria building itself, right? Or the terrorists blowing themselves on buses... it's just a bus? Big deal, right? So what if the bus usually has civilians inside of it right? You really try hard in spinning things don't you? You might just spin yourself out of orbit at this rate.

 

[bctbct]

Originally posted by: jimkyser

Originally posted by: bctbct
I do feel for innocent bystanders, but you are trying to blame a country for taking actions, saying they should not have bombed what they considered a strategic target because someone from Canada might be in there.

What a hypocrite. When finally pressed it comes out. Did it feel really good to make this statement showing absolutely no care for these Canadian innocent bystanders:

Originally posted by: bctbct
Sorry when you go to a area of the world that is known for all sorts of violence, dont expect others to pity you when bad things occur.

So under what circumstances are innocents visiting dangerous areas due any sort of feeling for their loss? Must they be Jewish? Must they be in Israel? Are all others lives of too little importance?

And you're wrong. I wasn't blaming Israel for taking any action. I was taking exception to the prevailing view of the pro-Israeli crowd here that these dead people had 100% responsibility for their death and Israel had none because they should have gotten out. Except Israel had made it impossible for them to get out by closing all exit routes. When you don't allow refugees to leave an area you are planning to attack, you ARE responsible for their safety.[/q

No, Israel has shown restraint in the targets they picked, pushing people out of the way is not feasible. They have dropped flyers warning of future attacks, above and beyond IMO

 

[envy me]

Originally posted by: bctbct

Originally posted by: envy me



Did it ever enter your mind that they didnt want passenger planes in the air targeting Israel?

Oh right... because it was the Lebanese who crashed into the WTC.. I'm sure with all of Israel's missile-ships flying and bombing Lebanon they would miss something like a passenger plane.

When they bombed the airport it insured that Israel would not be put in a postion to shoot down a plane carrying 5 terrorists and 225 Canadians..very smart move.

Similar to the US grounding planes after 911.

[/quote]


and I suppose blowing up the roads were done to prevent any suicide bus bombers right?

 

[SarcasticDwarf]

Originally posted by: envy me

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf


Hezbolla has been operating out of Lebanon with the full consent and support of the government and a large part of the population. Hezbollah (and therefore Lebanese) attacks on Israel in the past few years have killed far more civilians than the current Israeli attacks on Lebanon.

Unsubstantiated.
Speculation.
Assumption.

Hezbolah does not speak for Lebanon any more than the KKK speaks for America.

:thumbsup:

Really? Is that so?

Hezbollah Wins Easy Victory In Elections in Southern Lebanon
Hezbollah controls 18% of parliment">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezbollah</a>
Hezbollah was first in parliment in 1992
Glabalsecurity link

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: lozina
You're quite the comedian. Shouldn't you be at a gig in the New York Improv tongiht or something?

Well, it is probably better than working in the grease pits of Burger King.

Talk about reading problems. Have you even read my response? You certainly didn't address anything I stated.... or should I just assume you are avoiding it?

That's because what you said has been completely irrelevant to my posts.

What's intentionally targetting civilians to you then? I guess the terrorists who blew themselves in the pizzeria in Tel Aviv wasn't intentionally targetting civilians. He was just targetting the pizzeria building itself, right? Or the terrorists blowing themselves on buses... it's just a bus? Big deal, right? So what if the bus usually has civilians inside of it right? You really try hard in spinning things don't you? You might just spin yourself out of orbit at this rate.

Hmm...maybe to intentionally target civilians you have to target human beings. Sheesh, I think you need to stop inhaling all of that Burger King grease.

Israel bombed runways, they didn't annihilate the entire airport and incincerate everyone inside of it. Correct me if I'm wrong. However, it was reported that Hezbollah also used the airport.

Again, a road isn't a person. I would hope that even Burger King workers would realize this.