Israeli tourists in Sinai area attacked

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lupi

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Excuse me Sammy, as you say, " Likewise, two rockets have been fired into Israel over the last 12 hours; someone has to accept responsibility, for both the action and the inevitable Israeli retaliation. Who is this going to be? "

From Gaza you say, where do you get off on that crazed assumption that itsy bitsie rocket from Gaza can hit Israel??????????? You must be operating on the assumption that Israel consists of occupied and disputed territory. When in fact Israel does not own that land in any way and never will. So how can Israel be attacked on land it does not own? Maybe if Israel returns back to its legitimate 1948 borders the problem would go away. Because it really land belonging to a Palestinian State that Israel is now is trespassing on.

Face the facts Sammy, Israel has no right to occupy Gaza, the West Bank, East Jerusalem, or the Golan heights. Israel has no legitimate right to be in any of those areas, and there is not a single country on Earth that will recognize Israeli legitimacy to stay there. Not one single country on earth as Israel operates on borrowed time and chutzpah.

this folks is what you call full batshitcrazy,.
 

iGas

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Shits like this bound to happen.

In the last week Israel illegally approved 2500 new housing project in the occupied territory, and will soon approve an additional 2700 more.

The right wing Palestinians retaliate by lobbing a few rockets that were countered by Zionist air strikes in Gaza, then the crazies attacked a bus, and then come a few more air strikes.

IMHO, the violent is not going to end if the Jews keeps on taking land that isn't belong to them.

Every paper that I have read in the last week suggests that the housing project approval by Israel is timed to escalate violent and derail the peace talk.
 
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Lemon law

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Yes children should just accept that they are third class citizens for the sin of being born.

xjOhnx, you are a real fine sub human being.
 

SandEagle

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Yes children should just accept that they are third class citizens for the sin of being born.

xjOhnx, you are a real fine sub human being.


please don't call him that. its offensive to the rest of us sub human beings. kthx
 

irishScott

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Oct 10, 2006
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Can we just throw an iron curtain over the middle east and check back in 20 years to see who's left to work with in peace?

That's basically what happened for a while. After the fall of the Ottoman Empire the middle east was basically an unwanted wasteland filled with primitive, scattered tribes. Then we fond oil...
 

badb0y

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“First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.”

-Gandhi
 

SamurAchzar

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“First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.”

-Gandhi

Very noble quote no doubt, the problem here is that unlike other conflicts - such as the Vietnam war for example - here the Israelis are fighting for their home and survival. This is not an optional war for them - they can not just pack up and go back to their country, 8000 miles away. And while the Palestinians can lay down their weapons and be fine, Israelis can't.
 

badb0y

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Very noble quote no doubt, the problem here is that unlike other conflicts - such as the Vietnam war for example - here the Israelis are fighting for their home and survival. This is not an optional war for them - they can not just pack up and go back to their country, 8000 miles away. And while the Palestinians can lay down their weapons and be fine, Israelis can't.

Why are Palestinians fighting? Don't say terrorism because terrorism is a result not a cause. The Palestinians are also fighting for their land and survival, more so I believe than the Israelis. Israel keeps expanding and if I were a Palestinian I would be really concerned about it. The point is you can't get people to comply with you when your simultaneously expanding while already holding their land from before.

At this point no one can pack up and leave but to coexist sacrifices have to be made from both sides.
 

SamurAchzar

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Nationalist Palestinians such as Arafat have long moved aside for Muslim radicals such as Hamas and Hizballah. They are not fighting for Palestine, they are fighting for Islam. They are from the same school as Al Qaeda; in fact this attack was performed with the assistance of Al Qaeda deployment in Sinai. Taliban, Al Qaeda, Hizballah, Hamas, Islamic Jihad - they all share the same ideology, same agenda and same methods of operation.

These people will always have excuses for why they hurt non-Muslims; they had those when they bombed USS Cole, they had those in 9/11, and then again hitting Europe, and obviously when it comes to Israel, finding the justification is awfully easy.

Truth is, this attack was planned long before Israel announced its plans for building in the West Bank - it was a Hamas/AQ sleeper cell which got from Gaza into Sinai and waited there until ordered to strike.
 

tvarad

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Yes children should just accept that they are third class citizens for the sin of being born.

xjOhnx, you are a real fine sub human being.

It was a CYA inspection by the soldiers to ensure that the kid was not a human bomb; I didn't see them ask him to do anything humiliating other than check for explosives. Hundreds of millions of people, including children younger than that kid are subjected to the same kind of third degree check at airport security daily because of what Islamic whackos did on 9/11. And some of the checks on kids are even more humilating with the TSA perverts insisting on checking around their private areas because of the Islamic underpants bomber. Other than indulging in rabble-rousing (especially with that annoying background soundtrack), I don't see what the point of the video was.
 

Abwx

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It was a CYA inspection by the soldiers to ensure that the kid was not a human bomb; I didn't see them ask him to do anything humiliating other than check for explosives. Hundreds of millions of people, including children younger than that kid are subjected to the same kind of third degree check at airport security daily because of what Islamic whackos did on 9/11. And some of the checks on kids are even more humilating with the TSA perverts insisting on checking around their private areas because of the Islamic underpants bomber. Other than indulging in rabble-rousing (especially with that annoying background soundtrack), I don't see what the point of the video was.

Yet another zio brainwashing medics addict that support israeli nazism..
 

SamurAchzar

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Yet another zio brainwashing medics addict that support israeli nazism..

Is this what you bring to the discussion, this illiterate trolling? You should be ashamed. Your Palestinians forefathers brought so much to the conflict - such as the athletes massacre in Munch and of course the invention of the suicide bomber - and yet instead of joining the Jihad you lurk among the infidels and troll?
 

Abwx

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Is this what you bring to the discussion, this illiterate trolling? You should be ashamed. Your Palestinians forefathers brought so much to the conflict - such as the athletes massacre in Munch and of course the invention of the suicide bomber - and yet instead of joining the Jihad you lurk among the infidels and troll?

Contrary to you , i dont advocate for killing of people and nazi behaviour.

Mass killings in palestine is an israeli trait , as proved by the events..

Invention of terrorism in the ME is also an israeli thing , as proved
by historical facts..

Get used to it , people are no more inclined to trust your disgusting
propaganda that consist of reversing the truth.

Looters of land you were and still are, whatever you say...
 

SamurAchzar

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Mass killings in palestine is an israeli trait , as proved by the events..

I don't have any objection to killing of Taliban, Al Qaeda, Hamas, Hizballah etc. operatives. None whatsoever. In fact I suspect most Westerners - other than the most extreme of liberals - won't shed a tear when a Taliban combatant gets killed, as he operates on the behalf of an enemy.
 

tvarad

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Yet another zio brainwashing medics addict that support israeli nazism..

Scratch just below the surface of these "empathy" invoking examples and arguments for the Palestinian cause and it immediately descends into personal attacks and innuendo. About par for the course.
 

EagleKeeper

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Why are Palestinians fighting? Don't say terrorism because terrorism is a result not a cause. The Palestinians are also fighting for their land and survival, more so I believe than the Israelis. Israel keeps expanding and if I were a Palestinian I would be really concerned about it. The point is you can't get people to comply with you when your simultaneously expanding while already holding their land from before.

At this point no one can pack up and leave but to coexist sacrifices have to be made from both sides.

A problem here is that the Palestinians are not operating off of free will.

From Arafat since; they are being manipulated by others who are anti-Jews.

Any political step that they make has to be approved by others.
Those people that have to approve such are not affected by the consequences of rejecting anything.

Camp David was a sure lock, but Arafat was told to get the last 5% or nothing. He came back with nothing.

Oslo was the same.

Then the Hamas/Fatah division after Arafat died. One side did not want piece - it would mean the loss of power.

Every time there is any progress forward, it seems if trouble erupts out of Gaza to gain attention and provoke an Israeli reaction.

Hamas is now PR wise to ensure that it is a allowed militant group from within Gaza so they can keep their hands clean.

LL claims that they are operating outside Hamas jurisdiction. HE is again trying to find an excuse to not pace any responsibility on the political Palestinian leadership. But these are the same leaders that he expects to run a state.?

Hamas was able to clean house of Fatah in a couple of weeks.
Hamas controls the tunnels used for smuggling.
Hamas provides the security teams.
If Israel can identify militant groups that operate in Gaza by names and locations; Hamas also knows that information. They chose to not do anything about it because it can weaken their position even though it may benefit Gaza and the Palestinians.
 

EagleKeeper

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Scratch just below the surface of these "empathy" invoking examples and arguments for the Palestinian cause and it immediately descends into personal attacks and innuendo. About par for the course.

As others have stated,when you are unable to attack the message; sling mud at the messenger in hopes that it will stick.
 

Abwx

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But these are the same leaders that he expects to run a state.?

Lots of israelis prime ministers were terrorists under the british mandate,
and quite bloodthirsty ones.

Google for "Menahem Begin"....

Truth is that your racism prevent you from agreeing that all peoples
have the same rights and all you re doing is to justify the existence
of a nazi regime whose goal is complete ethnic cleansing of palestine
from its rightfull inhabitants.

Here an exemple of your own idiocy :

From Arafat since; they are being manipulated by others who are anti-Jews.

.

Yeah, they are anti jew..

The same way you would be against a jew that would steal your house
and let you homeless and rightless.
 
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