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SamurAchzar

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The same way you would be against a jew that would steal your house
and let you homeless and rightless.

Spare us the bullshit, if your people won in 1948 the Jews would have faced a second holocaust. At least Israel allowed the Palestinians to live. The only 'crime' Israel committed in regards to the Palestinian was not losing the wars imposed on it. It fought back hard and now your people are the ones in the cage. Tough luck, buddy.
May this serve a lesson to whoever tries to gang up on the Jews - you might end up locked away with the Jews controlling your diet.
 

Abwx

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That you did take the upper hand on the palestinians doesnt
make your shitty state a legitim one.

Inded, sooner or later , the zionist regime will be thrown
in the trash bin of history.

Only the zio nazis fools think that they have a bright future
as a fascist murderer state in ME whose prosperity is built
on ravaging and destroying human lifes....
 

SamurAchzar

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That you did take the upper hand on the palestinians doesnt
make your shitty state a legitim one.

Inded, sooner or later , the zionist regime will be thrown
in the trash bin of history.

Only the zio nazis fools think that they have a bright future
as a fascist murderer state in ME whose prosperity is built
on ravaging and destroying human lifes....

I hope everybody sees the irony in an Arab talking about shitty and murderous states, fascism, ravaging and destroying human lives
 

Abwx

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Truth is that you are far "better" in these matters,
although israel could be seen as pale compared to the US , but still,
the US is manipulated by the zionists cohorts , so ultimately,
you are the murderers and hatemongers...
 

SamurAchzar

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Truth is that you are far "better" in these matters,
although israel could be seen as pale compared to the US , but still,
the US is manipulated by the zionists cohorts , so ultimately,
you are the murderers and hatemongers...

Truth? What does the truth have to do with the Palestinian conflict? But nevertheless, if we ARE on the subject of truths and perhaps facts, Hafez Al Asad regime in Syria killed more Arabs than Israel did during the entire conflict; estimates are up to 40 thousand.
King Hussein of Jordan killed tens of thousands of Palestinians in Black September. Sadam used chemical weapons.

Really, if an alien descended to earth and started learning its history through Wikipedia, seeing the Middle Eastern conflicts among Arabs and themselves as well as few Koran verses, he'd think you Muslims are all a violent, oppressive, illiterate, incest practicing, religious fucktards on a suicidal rampage who murder their sisters and marry their cousins.

Luckily we know better than those aliens, and we perceive you as the gentle, kind, loving, delicate and intelligent people that you lot really are.
Really, if I had to choose one legacy to leave behind as a tombstone for earth's period of civilization, it would be the story of the Middle Eastern and their boy Muhammad. You make me proud to be human.
 

Abwx

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Indeed, most ME regimes are oppressive ones , and Israel does
make no exceptions , the difference being that israel has no legitimacy
as state , not only as a regime.

As for numbers, well, ask the 30 000 lebaneses killed by israel in 1982.
 

EagleKeeper

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But these are the same leaders that he expects to run a state.?

Lots of israelis prime ministers were terrorists under the british mandate,
and quite bloodthirsty ones.

Google for "Menahem Begin"....

Truth is that your racism prevent you from agreeing that all peoples
have the same rights and all you re doing is to justify the existence
of a nazi regime whose goal is complete ethnic cleansing of palestine
from its rightfull inhabitants.

Here an exemple of your own idiocy :

From Arafat since; they are being manipulated by others who are anti-Jews.

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Yeah, they are anti jew..

The same way you would be against a jew that would steal your house
and let you homeless and rightless.

No one disagrees that in the birth of Israel, there leadership was involved. In most newly formed countries that are fighting for independence or to overturn a government, that is the case.

What you are overlooking, deliberately - I do not know, is that those that are manipulating the Palestinian leadership are not Palestinians. they are Arabs whose only dog in this fight is their egos. They are willing to let Palestinians die to accomplish nothing.

Those people refused to support the Palestinians for a state back in '48; the have used them as proxies since them; especially once they realized that Israel could not be eliminated. but they feed the phobia of the Palestinians and Israelis to keep the dream alive that the Palestinians would be able to have it all and the Israeli's would be driven out.

And when a Palestinian realizes that that dream is only a dream; their political future is in doubt; the Palestinians have become fully dependent on the Arab political support. similar to the way Eastern Europe was to the Soviets. Command: "Jump" - Response: "How high!"

You and your racism seem to overlook that the Arabs and some Palestinians as you state
Truth is that your racism prevent you from agreeing that all peoples
have the same rights and all you re doing is to justify the existence
of a nazi regime whose goal is complete ethnic cleansing of palestine
from its rightfull inhabitants.
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The Ottomans sided with the Nazis - they were the ones that controlled that land previous to WWII. The Allies divided up the area into Arab countries and even gave a little land to the Jews.

Palestine at that time consisted of both Arabs and Jews.

So my quote of what you are stating applies just as well as from the other side of the mirror that the Arabs/Palestinians want to clear out all the Jews from Palestine.
 

EagleKeeper

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Indeed, most ME regimes are oppressive ones , and Israel does
make no exceptions , the difference being that israel has no legitimacy
as state , not only as a regime.

As for numbers, well, ask the 30 000 lebaneses killed by israel in 1982.

Israels legitimacy is as good as any of the other Arab states that were carved out of the Ottoman empire.
 

Abwx

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Israels legitimacy is as good as any of the other Arab states that were carved out of the Ottoman empire.

Surely, with no internationnaly recognized territories....

Unless your understanding of what is the world is limited
to zionists ruled western countries as the US...
 

EagleKeeper

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Indeed, most ME regimes are oppressive ones , and Israel does
make no exceptions , the difference being that israel has no legitimacy
as state , not only as a regime.

As for numbers, well, ask the 30 000 lebaneses killed by israel in 1982.


From Wiki
Lebanese estimates, compiled from International Red Cross sources and police and hospital surveys, calculated that 17,825 Lebanese had died and over 30,000 had been wounded.[6]

I wonder how many of those Lebanese were caught between a rock and hard place when the PLO hid among them?

The PLO brought that war to Lebanon.:\
 

Abwx

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From Wiki


I wonder how many of those Lebanese were caught between a rock and hard place when the PLO hid among them?

The PLO brought that war to Lebanon.:\

This war was brought by israel expansionnist policy, nothing else.

Indeed, the root of the problem in palestine arise from the fact
that a mainly foreign cohorts went there to seize and colonize this land.

All subsequents tragic evenments are a consequence of the zionist
will to create an etnically cleansed land from the start...

Do you know it better than your zionists ideologic masters ?....

Quote from D. Ben gourion, zionist leader :

“If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti - Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault ? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?”
 

Nebor

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Quote from D. Ben gourion, zionist leader :“If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti - Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault ? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?”

Exactly. They won't and shouldn't accept it. The only answer is war, to the last man, woman and child. We'll see who wins, Israelis or Palestine.
 

Oric

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The Ottomans sided with the Nazis - they were the ones that controlled that land previous to WWII. The Allies divided up the area into Arab countries and even gave a little land to the Jews.

Palestine at that time consisted of both Arabs and Jews.

So my quote of what you are stating applies just as well as from the other side of the mirror that the Arabs/Palestinians want to clear out all the Jews from Palestine.

Bzzztttt !!!! These sentences are enough to show how uneducated people are about the whole Middle East and history, yet you are making generalizations and decide about the fate of millions. The irony !!!!

Ottoman Empire sided not with the Nazis but with the German Empire (The Kaiser) and Austria-Hungary in WW I. After 1918, the Palestine land was lost to the British. Between 1918 - 1945 the area was mandated by the British. Modern Turkey did not pact with Nazis, au contraire harbored hundreds of thousands of Jews from Europe who fleed from Hitler.
 

Oric

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Israels legitimacy is as good as any of the other Arab states that were carved out of the Ottoman empire.

When Ottoman Empire ceased to exist (1918) the were only a handful of Jews in Palestine. Stop distorting history
 

Whiskey16

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Thank you Oric, you beat me to the punch with the necessary lecture of corrections.

It is amazing to witness the ignorance of those who are so quick to pass judgement, and in doing so condemn a population in bigoted favour for another.

Isreal and Israelis exists. Palestine and Palestinians exists.

Israel has its well defined borders. Palestinians are entited to the remaining territories and have their soverign state too.

Israel desires criminal expansion of its territories and thereby will make all efforts to deny Palestinian statehood and it is in Israeli favour to promote political division among Palestinians plus maintain condemnable aggression by Palestinian militants upon Israeli targets.

Israel is in control of the situation and it is all within Israeli cards to provide solutions.

Israel is the prime obstacle to peace. Until Israel ceases Zionist expansion, colonisation and military control outside of its borders upon other's territory, no other steps may provide a framework to simmer tension.

....The advocation of genocide by Nebor, ethnic cleansing of Palestinians from their own land to be supplanted by Israelis, and widely promoted support for continued collective punishment upon all Palestinians are certainly criminal, and absolute instigators to maintain insurgencies. Such Nazi-like aggression is unnacceptable. That era of Germany studied well the few decades earlier genocide by the Ottoman empire upon Armenians. The extremists (though as state policy it is sadly mainstream) of Zionist expansion in Israel have certainly also studied past examples of strategy and propoganda to condemn a population and enact favour for their people to conquer and supplant the condemned. Comparisons are valid. Yes, Godwin is invoked. Dislike that? Then condemn a rather than promote equitable high crimes.
 
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Broheim

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Bzzztttt !!!! These sentences are enough to show how uneducated people are about the whole Middle East and history, yet you are making generalizations and decide about the fate of millions. The irony !!!!

Ottoman Empire sided not with the Nazis but with the German Empire (The Kaiser) and Austria-Hungary in WW I. After 1918, the Palestine land was lost to the British. Between 1918 - 1945 the area was mandated by the British. Modern Turkey did not pact with Nazis, au contraire harbored hundreds of thousands of Jews from Europe who fleed from Hitler.

Turkey didn't help german jews, the Turkish government forbade granting visas to german jews. a few turkish diplomats did however fight hard to save as many jews as possible.
need I remind you of the SS Struma incident?
 

EagleKeeper

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I will admit I misstated the WWI vs WWII and the Ottomans.

Even if the British had control of the area; it was divided up after WWII.
At that time there were Arabs and Jews living in the area of Palestine.

The Arab would not accept a Jewish state in that area; They still have not. Some are more tolerant that others.

The fact is that Israel was granted statehood; the Arabs balked at there being a Palestinian state.

Israel has a right to defend itself and retaliate against attacks. Just like any nation has the right.

And the Palestinians should also have that right. It is the fact of what is needed to defend oneself against attacks.
Usually it is knowledge that you will not be attacked that allows compromises. Israel has not been given that luxury at this time. History has demonstrated that the original borders were unsafe. Expansion of those borders helped; but that was at the expense of those that were attacking her. Who is right then?

If someone keeps attacking you; do you have the right to retaliate and force them to stop if the law will not intervene.

The Palestinians feel that they have the right; so does Israel.
 

SamurAchzar

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It is amazing to witness the ignorance of those who are so quick to pass judgement, and in doing so condemn a population in bigoted favour for another.

You are doing the same thing yourself, from thousands of miles away. You insist on the realization of Palestinian self-proclaimed rights at the expense of the Israelis, without even stopping for a second to ask what kind of 'peace' are the Palestinians really after. Are the Gaza and West Bank territories really enough for them? Because if they are, they could have had those many times over. Obviously it's more than that.

Israel desires criminal expansion of its territories and thereby will make all efforts to deny Palestinian statehood and it is in Israeli favour to promote political division among Palestinians plus maintain condemnable aggression by Palestinian militants upon Israeli targets.

Voting record as well as past actions in Israel overwhelmingly contradicts your position here. Israel unilaterally withdrawn from Gaza (which brought about the wave of rockets and terror started shortly after the withdrawal). Israeli public voted in a government that ran into office on the notion of tearing down the settlements and disengaging from the Palestinians.

Public opinion changed when the Palestinians used the newly acquired territories to arm and attack Israel.

Israel is in control of the situation and it is all within Israeli cards to provide solutions.

Israel is the prime obstacle to peace. Until Israel ceases Zionist expansion, colonisation and military control outside of its borders upon other's territory, no other steps may provide a framework to simmer tension.

Again that's your own private view that has no hold in reality. In fact President Clinton seemed to think the blame is with the Palestinians (see here):

Clinton blamed Arafat after the failure of the talks, stating, "I regret that in 2000 Arafat missed the opportunity to bring that nation into being and pray for the day when the dreams of the Palestinian people for a state and a better life will be realized in a just and lasting peace." The failure to come to an agreement was widely attributed to Yasser Arafat, as he walked away from the table without making a concrete counter-offer and because Arafat did little to quell the series of Palestinian riots that began shortly after the summit.[15][18][19] Arafat was also accused of scuttling the talks by Nabil Amr, a former minister in the Palestinian Authority.[20]

Two books published in 2004 placed the blame for the failure of the summit on Arafat. They were The Missing Peace by longtime US Middle East envoy Dennis Ross and My Life by President Clinton. Clinton wrote that Arafat once complimented Clinton by telling him, "You are a great man." Clinton responded, "I am not a great man. I am a failure, and you made me one."[22] During a lecture in Australia, Ross suggested that the reason for the failure was Arafat's unwillingness to sign a final deal with Israel that would close the door on any of the Palestinians' maximum demands, particularly the right of return. Ross claimed that what Arafat really wanted was "a one-state solution. Not independent, adjacent Israeli and Palestinian states, but a single Arab state encompassing all of Historic Palestine".[23]

Now I don't know if you have any malicious intents like some of the antisemite crowd around here or whether you are just a useful idiot in the hands of radical Muslims, but the truth is no settlement would have be reached without a full Palestinian 'right of return' for millions of Palestinians into Israel. No Palestinian leader would ever settle for less than that in exchange of ending the conflict.

They will find ways to stall, riot and divert the attention away, but without a full right of return - essentially turning prosperous, advanced and secular Israel into another failed Sharia state like they built in Gaza - there would never be an agreement.

Just watch and see what happens (or rather, does not happen) in September. They have a chance of getting a recognized state but that means that if Israel complies, the conflict stops without getting their right of return. They will find a way to stall and finally abandon this plan (Abbas already hinted at this), and nothing will happen in September. Their chance to end the conflict will go amiss.

Ultimately, though, you would never understand. You think that for the Arabs it's about iPhones and money, while in reality removing the Jewish cancer that has spread in the midst of the Muslim Umma and erasing the disgrace of continual defeats at the hand of infidels are their priorities.
 
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Lemon law

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I will admit I misstated the WWI vs WWII and the Ottomans.

Even if the British had control of the area; it was divided up after WWII.
At that time there were Arabs and Jews living in the area of Palestine.

The Arab would not accept a Jewish state in that area; They still have not. Some are more tolerant that others.

The fact is that Israel was granted statehood; the Arabs balked at there being a Palestinian state.

Israel has a right to defend itself and retaliate against attacks. Just like any nation has the right.

And the Palestinians should also have that right. It is the fact of what is needed to defend oneself against attacks.
Usually it is knowledge that you will not be attacked that allows compromises. Israel has not been given that luxury at this time. History has demonstrated that the original borders were unsafe. Expansion of those borders helped; but that was at the expense of those that were attacking her. Who is right then?

If someone keeps attacking you; do you have the right to retaliate and force them to stop if the law will not intervene.

The Palestinians feel that they have the right; so does Israel.
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At least EK admits he is wrong about trying the blame the Ottoman empire that was already a over decade dead long before the rise of Hitler in 1933.

But thereafter EK plays fast and loose with more bullshit propaganda and revisionist history regarding the land that became 1948 Israel. Long before governed by the Brits in something called the Palestinian mandate. The notion that the area also had a local Palestinian government is largely false, even if there were a few local power brokers on a city wide scale. Some rat finks and some rather decent, but the real power was Great Britain. Meaning two things. (1) The population of the British Mandate was almost 100% Palestinian, at least at the pre 1900 AD history of the Palestinian Mandate. (2) As a result of that non-nationhood of Palestine, it simply meant the Palestinian people lacked the modern institutions of a modern State, the most important of which in later events is the total lack of an army for Palestinian self defense.

But we must also understand other events, not necessarily Zionist, that started from Russia in what amounts to a back to the birth land movement starting in about 1850. As Jewish communities within Cossack dominated Russia, where anti-Semitic Jew baiting was almost the national sport, collected their pennies nickles and dimes, and sponsored a few Jews to immigrate to Palestine, with enough financing to buy land from local land owners.
Nothing wrong with that as long as it was a trickle and never a flood. And many Russian Jews brought in modern European farming methods and did quite well. Still nothing earth shaking circa 1930, but still some rat fink city based mufti's played the anti-Semitic card, while other British Palestinian mandate local leaders allowed multiculturalism. As Jews and Palestinians proved that they have could have Jews and Palestinians co-operating for mutual benefit in a big win win for there communities.

Of course the big stress-or event came from Germany in the form of Adolph Hitler. And soon the mainly world dominated European world had WW2 and mass Genocide, and among the minorities targeted, Jews were Murdered and Decimated thousand of miles away from the mid-east.

When the dust settled from WW2, suddenly Europe had millions of pennyless Jewish refugees on their hands, stripped of all land and possessions and lucky to be among the few that survived. Rather than Europe taking responsibility for their sins to the Jews, they got the bright idea of foisting them off on the the mid-east just at a time the Brits were tired of the thankless job of administering the Palestinian mandate. And quite predictably the surrounding Arab States with Armies cried NIMBY.

And at the same time, at least for the Jews, the old Idea of Zionism gained new luster and credibility. And to some extent who among us can blame Jewish leaders for feeling that way, given the way they had been raped by Hitler and other European leaders. But still, IMHO, the concept of Zionism is exactly the problem for modern Israel, it only leads to a Massada complex, and Masdsada #1 was a total Israeli disaster.

But still, in 3/1948, the UN approved Israel as a new State with the existing Jewish leaders pledge to treat its indigenous population of Palestinians and Jews equally.

What happened thereafter instead is that the surrounding non Palestinians Arab States all massed to together to end the Jewish State as the rest of the world did nothing. If the Arabs with military assets and large armies were even remotely competent, the fledgling Israeli State would have been toast in 1948, but the point is and remains, the Arabs States were incompetent and once again David beat Goliath. And largely because Israel was organized, united, and made the best of their limited assets. Again, IMHO nothing wrong with that.

But then Israel, IMHO, made the fatal mistake, faced with wisdom or greed, Israeli Zionists took the wrong road and opted for greed that means Israel is forever a unsustainable Zionist State in the mid-east. Because as soon as the 1948 Arab Armies were sent packing the totally powerless Palestinian people who owned most of the land in 1948 Israel could be as effectively raped and disposed even faster than Hitler did it in pre-WW2. And by 1953, thanks to Jewish State laws as bad as Hitlers, Palestinians owning land within Israel was complete, as Israel did to the Palestinians exactly what Hitler did to Jews. Except Hitler was at least quick and killed his victims fast, Jews like to prolong the torture.

Its bad enough that Greedy Jews stole more than half of 1948 Israel, the remaining Palestinians who fled South to the West Bank and Gaza, as well as the Palestinians who owned land in East Jerusalem got invaded by Israel in 1967 and 73, and now Israel wants
to pig 100% of that too.-------------------what total greed without shame on the part of Israel.

That is simply that Massada Zionist problem, Israel simply can't build a just and accepted
Israeli State built on rape and greed. Such a Israeli state can temporarily be propped up based on military might, but as Israel loses allies at an alarming rate, we already see current Israeli policy is unsustainable. While Israeli greed will never know a moment of peace, and quite rightfully so. As Anti Israeli terrorism is morally justified and will never go away.

But in my mind, the myth here is that Israelis and Arabs must fight to the death, when we are better moving to a Palestinian State and further co-operation.

This idea that any one group can pig all of Israel may have been the norm, its never worked, it never will, so why not move to something win win sustainable for al, sides.
 

Nebor

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Its bad enough that Greedy Jews stole more than half of 1948 Israel,

Such a Israeli state can temporarily be propped up based on military might, but as Israel loses allies at an alarming rate, we already see current Israeli policy is unsustainable. As Anti Israeli terrorism is morally justified and will never go away.

But in my mind, the myth here is that Israelis and Arabs must fight to the death, when we are better moving to a Palestinian State and further co-operation.

This idea that any one group can pig all of Israel may have been the norm, its never worked, it never will, so why not move to something win win sustainable for al, sides.

Greedy jews eh? Your motives are showing.

You're the only who can "see current Israeli policy is unsustainable." Their credit rating and forecasts are still projected rock solid, which is more than we can say for our own.

The Arabs have pushed things beyond peace talks. They reject every deal. The only option is total war. While I would say that anti-Israeli terrorism is morally neutral, it's not worthy of condemnation. Just another method of warfare. Similar to if Israel blanketed Gaza with VX gas.
 

Lemon law

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As Nebor is proud of playing a computer game called, "Current playing: Assassin's Creed II"

A piece of unreality I am so unimpressed at.

Maybe Nebor, someday you will grow up, and realize the real world just does not work that way. But it does explain something about your limited thinking.
 

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You are doing the same thing yourself, from thousands of miles away. You insist on the realization of Palestinian self-proclaimed rights at the expense of the Israelis...
:thumbsdown: Israel has a sovereign state. A sovereign Palestinian state of the occupied territories is at the expense of denying Israeli expansion.

Please do not lie.

Israel unilaterally withdrawn from Gaza (which brought about the wave of rockets and terror started shortly after the withdrawal). Israeli public voted in a government that ran into office on the notion of tearing down the settlements and disengaging from the Palestinians.
The high density of Gaza was determined to be undesirable for Zionist expansion. "Disengaging from Palestine?" :thumbsdown: The continued military occupation and Israeli citizen colonisation of the more desirable West Bank remains an international high crime and an understandable antagonist to Palestinians.

They will find ways to stall, riot and divert the attention away, but without a full right of return - essentially turning prosperous, advanced and secular Israel into another failed Sharia state like they built in Gaza - there would never be an agreement.
:thumbsdown: An independent and sovereign Palestine is the right if Palestinians -- regardless of your outlandish fear and outright bigotry upon all Palestinians.

This disproportionate fear card of Israeli propaganda again shows is ugly head.

Israeli strategic policy is to continue the mold of Nazi Germany by spreading hyperbolic fear and absolute condemnation upon an entire group of people in order to ease their occupation, subjugation, and eventual removal for the continued colonisation by more worthy citizens of Israel.

Palestine is Israel's Polish territories.

...while in reality removing the Jewish cancer that has spread in the midst of the Muslim Umma and erasing the disgrace of continual defeats at the hand of infidels are their priorities.
Doublespeak. :thumbsdown: George Orwell is smiling. No, it is Israel that continues to enact policy to usurp Palestinians by Israelis in Palestine.

Dude, your outlandish propogation of Israeli insecurity and ease of condemnation of all Palestinians as being lesser than Israelis, firmly answers my question of placing you into company with this forums callers for ethnic cleansing and genocide.
 

Abwx

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Expansion of those borders helped; but that was at the expense of those that were attacking her. Who is right then?

Attacking them ?...
Let s see what were the intentions of your zionists masters in 1948 :

D ben gourion at the time :

The acceptance of partition does not commit us to renounce Transjordan: one does not demand from anybody to give up his vision. We shall accept a state in the boundaries fixed today, but the boundaries of Zionist aspirations are the concern of the Jewish people and no external factor will be able to limit them.

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/David_Ben-Gurion

Transjordan was the name of the current west banks..

So their intentions were very clear :
First, accept the partition plan and then seize the rest of the land.
 
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