Macamus Prime
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I get it now,... the Palestinians are 'browner' than the Israelis! NOW I understand it's OK to kill them off; it all makes sense.
But what was not acceptable after the Arabs attacked, was the Israeli stealing the land of those Palestinians who fled or were pushed out of Israel at the point of a gun.
That should be the first immutable rule of international law. If you attack your neighbor and your neighbor kicks your ass and takes some of your land, you should NEVER get back that land. That should be the penalty for launching an attack.Why not? The only reason you think this is unacceptable is because it is your side that lost. I'm all for "stealing" the land of countries that declare war on me.
Yet this case, Israelis had been stealing land from hundreds of thousands of Palestinians for months prior to the Arab states declaring war on Israel, as this entry at Wikipedia recounts.I'm all for "stealing" the land of countries that declare war on me.
Israel was acceptable of the boundaries of the UN.
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/David_Ben-GurionThe acceptance of partition does not commit us to renounce Transjordan: one does not demand from anybody to give up his vision. We shall accept a state in the boundaries fixed today, but the boundaries of Zionist aspirations are the concern of the Jewish people and no external factor will be able to limit them.
oh cry me a river...boo hoo....Yet this case, Israelis had been stealing land from hundreds of thousands of Palestinians for months prior to the Arab states declaring war on Israel, as this entry at Wikipedia recounts.
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again....cry me a river....land gained my defending your own land is well just that land gained!! As if the Un has the power or the reslove or the support of its member nations to militarily back up that statement.....The founding doctrine of the UN was that land gained by conquest is forever going forward illegitimate.
I'm familiar with how Wikipedia works, which is why I'm careful to only site in it regard to well document facts, such as the fact that Israelis have been ethnically clenching the region of Palestinians since November 29 of 1947, nearly half a year before the May 15th declaration of war by Arab states on Israel.oh cry me a river...boo hoo....
also make note the wikipedia disclaimer --
I'm familiar with how Wikipedia works, which is why I'm careful to only site in it regard to well document facts, such as the fact that Israelis have been ethnically clenching the region of Palestinians since November 29 of 1947, nearly half a year before the May 15th declaration of war by Arab states on Israel.
UN had no right to give someone s land without his consent.
Of course that the zionists were happy, since they detained
at the time less than 10ù% of the palestine..
Of course, you are gullible enough to think that the 1948
partition plan was enough for them..
As anowledged by historical facts, they viewed it from
the start as a first step before grabbing the remaining
lands, by force of course...
All zio medics addicts by there live in the fantasy that
israel was a state that wanted peace in 1948..
Do you know it better than the zionists leaders ??
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/David_Ben-Gurion
UN had no right to give someone s land without his consent.
Of course that the zionists were happy, since they detained
at the time less than 10ù% of the palestine..
Of course, you are gullible enough to think that the 1948
partition plan was enough for them..
As anowledged by historical facts, they viewed it from
the start as a first step before grabbing the remaining
lands, by force of course...
All zio medics addicts by there live in the fantasy that
israel was a state that wanted peace in 1948..
Do you know it better than the zionists leaders ??
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/David_Ben-Gurion
The founding doctrine of the UN was that land gained by conquest is forever going forward illegitimate.
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What a piece of crud reasoning, the Arabs did indeed attack, but what you are saying is someone gets mugged and robbed they are justified in mugging and robbing an innocent by stander.
The founding doctrine of the UN was that land gained by conquest is forever going forward illegitimate.
Have to be human first to qualify as Holocaust.
Nebor may be in love with military power, but if you look at world history, military hegemony is not all its cracked up to be.
The USA may have been the number uno military power, but we still lost in Vietnam. I could cite many more examples to you Nebor but why waste my breath, when a word to the wise is sufficent.
I suspect an unfamiliarity with history is what prompts you to take issue with the title, and hence recommend you look at the source itself rather than judging a book by its cover. That said, if you've seen anything you believe to be a legitimate scholarly work refuting the information presented in Ruling Palestine and the many sources compiled in its bibliography, please share.Lol. Look at the wikipedia footnote for your table.
"The table data was taken from Ruling Palestine, A History of the Legally Sanctioned Jewish-Israeli Seizure of Land and Housing in Palestine"
That certainly sounds like the title of a legitimate scholarly article to me.
The myth that Palestinians left at the urging of Arab leaders been debunked for decades, Christopher Hitchens's "Broadcasts" being one notable refutation of the claim.When the Palestinians that bailed at the recommendation of the Arab countries
In the 1980s Israel and United-Kingdom opened up part of their archives for investigation by historians. This favored a more critical and factual analysis of the 1948 events. As a result more detailed and comprehensive description of the Palestinian exodus was published, notably Morris’ The Birth of the Palestinian Refugee Problem.
Morris distinguishes four waves of refugees, the second, third and fourth of them coinciding with Israeli military offensives, when Arab Palestinians fled the fights or were expelled. The initial Israeli position has been replaced by a new version : the exodus was caused by neither Israeli nor Arab policies, but rather was a by-product of the 1948 Palestine War.
A document produced by the Israeli Defence Forces Intelligence Service entitled "The Emigration of the Arabs of Palestine in the Period 1/12/1947/- 1/6/1948" was dated June 30, 1948 and became widely known around 1985.
The document details 11 factors which caused the exodus, and lists them "in order of importance":
- Direct, hostile Jewish [ Haganah/IDF ] operations against Arab settlements.
- The effect of our [Haganah/IDF] hostile operations against nearby [Arab] settlements...... (... especially -the fall of large neighbouring centers).
- Operation of [Jewish] dissidents [ Irgun Zwaí Leumi and Lohamei Herut Yisrael]
- Orders and decrees by Arab institutions and gangs [irregulars].
- Jewish whispering operations [psychological warfare], aimed at frightening away Arab inhabitants.
- Ultimate expulsion orders [by Jewish forces]
- Fear of Jewish [retaliatory] response [following] major Arab attack on Jews.
- The appearance of gangs [irregular Arab forces] and non-local fighters in the vicinity of a village.
- Fear of Arab invasion and its consequences [mainly near the borders].
- Isolated Arab villages in purely [predominantly] Jewish areas.
- Various local factors and general fear of the future.
But my feeling is that this place would be quieter and know less suffering if the matter had been resolved once and for all. If Ben-Gurion had carried out a large expulsion and cleaned the whole country - the whole land of Israel, as far as the Jordan valley. It may yet turn out this was his fatal mistake. If he had carried out a full expulsion - rather than a partial expulsion - he would have stabilized the state of Israel for generations.
Nebor may be in love with military power, but if you look at world history, military hegemony is not all its cracked up to be.
The USA may have been the number uno military power, but we still lost in Vietnam. I could cite many more examples to you Nebor but why waste my breath, when a word to the wise is sufficent.