pete6032
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Amazing how quickly the conservative narrative on Trump has changed. Was it really just the poor election results? Or do media outlets like FOX really hold that much sway over their viewers?
The Qanon's are actually upset and disillusioned now.
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I think 2016 tells us that any major party nominee, no matter how shitty, has at least a puncher's chance of winning. I don't think he will be the nominee as I think he's going to get indicted very soon, but if he is the nominee we should definitely avoid the complacency of 2016 where we thought he couldn't win. Clinton would have surely won in my mind if the people who were going to vote for her but decided not to because they were sure she would win had actually voted.I don't know if I want to see Trump in Jail or see Trump run again in 24, 28, 32, 36, 40.
But its scary.. he could actually win again!
Judging by our country's history, we don't want to MIS UNDER ESTIMATE again!
I think conservatives really hate losing.Amazing how quickly the conservative narrative on Trump has changed. Was it really just the poor election results? Or do media outlets like FOX really hold that much sway over their viewers?
Amazing how quickly the conservative narrative on Trump has changed. Was it really just the poor election results? Or do media outlets like FOX really hold that much sway over their viewers?
Ok, I'll need some context here. Not sure what the latest narrative is in Cloud Coocooland, or WTF "Phil"is.
But... I take it the nutters are pissed bc saying he is running for 24 means he's not coming back in..22, 23, or whatever, and the fabled Storm was in fact, just madness and fakery?
..And since it's not happening now, Trump, and Phil, suck and must be burned at the stake?
... Or maybe they should consider it was fking nuts maybe? Wait, no... Definitely burn at the stake.
He could win again because Hillary was right. IMO - Odds have greatly decreased because younger people have become hip to his bullshit and have shown they are willing to turn out and vote.I don't know if I want to see Trump in Jail or see Trump run again in 24, 28, 32, 36, 40.
But its scary.. he could actually win again!
Judging by our country's history, we don't want to MIS UNDER ESTIMATE again!
YESAmazing how quickly the conservative narrative on Trump has changed. Was it really just the poor election results? Or do media outlets like FOX really hold that much sway over their viewers?
Protip: they were not actually concerned about crime.He could win again because Hillary was right. IMO - Odds have greatly decreased because younger people have become hip to his bullshit and have shown they are willing to turn out and vote.
For a party so concerned about crime are they willing to vote for someone under criminal indictment?
Bless your heart.Amazing how quickly the conservative narrative on Trump has changed. Was it really just the poor election results? Or do media outlets like FOX really hold that much sway over their viewers?
I agree!! Trump will do the right thing in his eyes and become a 3rd party candidate!!Of course, if he doesn't win the nomination, he'll do the right thing for the party and get behind Ron DeSantis. /s
Let me correct this for you -- Amazing how quickly the conservative narrative on Trump has changed. Was it really just the poor election results? Or do "METH" outlets like FOX really hold that much sway over their viewers?Amazing how quickly the conservative narrative on Trump has changed. Was it really just the poor election results? Or do media outlets like FOX really hold that much sway over their viewers?
Seems there are a few people happy he's running..
Democrats are openly rooting for another Trump presidential bid | CNN Politics
As Donald Trump announced Tuesday night that he is running for president for a third time, one unlikely group was cheering him on: Democrats.www.cnn.com
Democrats are openly rooting for another Trump presidential bid
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Back then, he portrayed himself as the ultimate outsider, someone who could bring his street smarts and business savvy to running the country. People wanted something different, and Trump definitely fit the bill.
If I may -- back then nobody knew Trump was a liar and a crook and a theif.....
Some people didn't like his message, but weren't allowed to leave. You WILL love me!
Former Republican President Donald Trump says he’s launching another White House bid
That's a bold approach! Making people stay and listen to a politician drone on when you want to leave is a quick way to get a bunch of hecklers!Some people didn't like his message, but weren't allowed to leave. You WILL love me!
Mar-a-Lago attendees tried to walk out of Trump’s speech early — but security forced them to stay | Salon.com
Maybe they are like alcoholics, and were expecting things to be different this time.
Were they listening for the sound of gas being turned on?Some people didn't like his message, but weren't allowed to leave. You WILL love me!
Mar-a-Lago attendees tried to walk out of Trump’s speech early — but security forced them to stay | Salon.com
Maybe they are like alcoholics, and were expecting things to be different this time.
Although your position is defensible, it's not my takeaway at all. Hillary simply was a flawed candidate; not on her qualifications, but because the right just really hates her and were mobilized to go out and vote. She ran a terrible campaign, virtually ignoring the Rust Belt that decided the election. I also believe polls and the 2016 election also prove that many Americans (primarily men) are still uncomfortable about electing a woman as POTUS, even an eminently qualified one. (Also see Elizabeth Warren and Kalama Harris.)I think 2016 tells us that any major party nominee, no matter how shitty, has at least a puncher's chance of winning. I don't think he will be the nominee as I think he's going to get indicted very soon, but if he is the nominee we should definitely avoid the complacency of 2016 where we thought he couldn't win. Clinton would have surely won in my mind if the people who were going to vote for her but decided not to because they were sure she would win had actually voted.
Unlikely IMO. They aren't going to indict him for being sloppy with boxes of documents; they would need an iron-clad obstruction charge to pursue. There was recent reporting that (contrary to the law), DJT honestly believed the kiss-ass letters from Kim Jong-Un and other docs were his personal property. You have to remember DJT has been a grifter and tax cheat virtually his entire life, so to him ignoring the law is the default position.will DoJ do it's job and indict Trump?
he's no longer going away and fading out like they hoped.
Not likely.The announcement that they concluded his intent with the documents was "mementos" or some shit instead of self-enrichment is a big tell. You don't do that and then prosecute for it.
Are you on crack???I'm too lazy to grab a link, but since DJT is again officially a "politician," Facebook's standing policy is to not censor his disinformation. What kind of back asswards policy is this? I'm glad I've never created a FB account because they clearly boosted Trump in 2016, and this particularly policy is inane.
Although your position is defensible, it's not my takeaway at all. Hillary simply was a flawed candidate; not on her qualifications, but because the right just really hates her and were mobilized to go out and vote. She ran a terrible campaign, virtually ignoring the Rust Belt that decided the election. I also believe polls and the 2016 election also prove that many Americans (primarily men) are still uncomfortable about electing a woman as POTUS, even an eminently qualified one. (Also see Elizabeth Warren and Kalama Harris.)
Finally, DJT would never have won if he didn't have the successful TV run on The Apprentice that greatly elevated his public profile over the years.
Unlikely IMO. They aren't going to indict him for being sloppy with boxes of documents; they would need an iron-clad obstruction charge to pursue. There was recent reporting that (contrary to the law), DJT honestly believed the kiss-ass letters from Kim Jong-Un and other docs were his personal property. You have to remember DJT has been a grifter and tax cheat virtually his entire life, so to him ignoring the law is the default position.
Not likely.
Ex-Mueller prosecutor: DOJ case against Trump “gets stronger and stronger” after latest filing | Salon.com
"Because plaintiff [Trump] can only have received the documents bearing classification markings in his capacity as president, the entire mixed document is a presidential record," the Justice Department wrote towards the end of the filing obtained by The Guardian.