Projection. Always projection.Are you on crack???
Onion??
whish elon would speedrun that company to ruin
While a lot of us probably want a catfight between DeSantis and Trump, I have a suspicion that it will end rather quickly and DeSantis will come out on top.
Fox News and a lot of mainstream conservative media have already started their pivot to DeSantis, indictments are likely coming out against Trump, and the GOP establishment have every reason to remove the shit stain that is Trump from their beloved party. I don't think it's unfathomable that a core group of Republicans in Congress decide to sink Trump by letting those indictments fly. It would give them a very convenient reason to dump him. Once he's out of the picture, they can immediately rally around DeSantis and get their base on board. The quicker they do this, the better. More importantly, they likely know that if Trump wins the ticket, the Presidency is likely lost.
no it's real as far as i can tellOnion??
I think DeSantis won't be able to sit around for that long if Trump starts going after him.IMO there is zero incentive for DeSantis to engage Trumps trash talking at this point. The way that DeSantis wins is if he steals away the base from Trump in a relatively seamless transition as his star rises and Trump’s star falls. Trump is trying to force a division to cut off DeSantis from his base right from the start. If DeSantis responds in kind he gives Trump what he wants. If he stays quiet, Trump looks more and more petty and desperate and DeSantis appears rational and the strong one. There’s no reason for a currently-popular 44-year-old governor to get into the mud with the orange hog. He can let Trumpy take one last dumpy on the GOP.
I believe DeSantis will run. His ego’s not much smaller than Trump’s and he’s on the upswing in the polls. If he can get Murdoch to commit to him, and Murdoch appears to be done with Trump, 2024this is his best shot. Republicans are not likely to stay excited about him if he sits this election out. And even if he’s defeated in a primary battle, he’ll still have a chance in 2028 if he stays relevant enough.
DeSantis‘ strategy might be secretly hoping the prosecutions against Trump derail Trump’s candidacy while at the same time crusading against these “politically influenced” prosecutions and setting himself up as Trump’s protector against the evil deep state as soon as he’s elected president. Trump is reduced to damsel in distress and DeSantis gets to be the knight in shining armor. DeSantis’ will move to downplay his image as a cruel, vindictive, petty would-be tyrant, he will campaign on a promise to pardon Trump, all Trumpies J6 convicts on a compassionate, “heal-the-country” “put the past behind us” program that, of course, reminds the country that Trump is a thieving POS, even as Trump abuses him on an hourly basis.
Also .... I don’t think Trump would stand for a Trump/DeSantis ticket. I think DeSantis and the so-called “saner” wing of the GOP are just waiting to see what happens when DOJ charges Trump. What will they charge him with? Will they take him into custody? If he’s granted bail (and he probably will be), what will be the conditions of that release? Gag order? How will his supporters react? Once it happens, DeSantis and others (Pence, Pompeo, Hogan, DeWine, et. al) will have a better idea of which way to jump.
I think DeSantis won't be able to sit around for that long if Trump starts going after him.
That being said, if DeSantis is smart he will absolutely run in 2024. People who wait for the perfect opportunity often end up waiting forever (hi, Chris Christie) and he's got a credible shot now.
I agree with the overall focus on culture war (and it’s clear DeSantis does too, unfortunately) If Trump decides to go after him though he will have to respond. If you let your primary opponent shit on you for six months without saying anything they will bury you.Quite possibly true. DeSantis will have to keep in mind that if he wants to lure Trumps lunatic fringe base to him, he can’t think ahead to the general election. The MAGA base don’t want policy statements. They don’t want statesmanship. They don’t want ideas, direction or plans. They want a show. They want simple slogans, insults and childish nicknames. This is what will motivate the MAGA primary voter.
He’ll need to come up with a simplistic slogan. One that demonstrates he hates the same people they do - keeping it general enough so that the hated out-group exists in the mind of the hater. He’ll need to come up with a couple of nicknames for Trump, and use them over and over again. He’ll need to show that he’s a bigger bully than Trump. That is what the MAGA voters will respond to. We'll see how he responds. But the smart thing to do will be to ignore Trumps attacks.
Quite possibly true. DeSantis will have to keep in mind that if he wants to lure Trumps lunatic fringe base to him, he can’t think ahead to the general election. The MAGA base don’t want policy statements. They don’t want statesmanship. They don’t want ideas, direction or plans. They want a show. They want simple slogans, insults and childish nicknames. This is what will motivate the MAGA primary voter.
He’ll need to come up with a simplistic slogan. One that demonstrates he hates the same people they do - keeping it general enough so that the hated out-group exists in the mind of the hater. He’ll need to come up with a couple of nicknames for Trump, and use them over and over again. He’ll need to show that he’s a bigger bully than Trump. That is what the MAGA voters will respond to. We'll see how he responds. But the smart thing to do will be to ignore Trumps attacks.
why would facebook NOT fact check trump???no it's real as far as i can tell
why would facebook NOT fact check trump???
The Q's I chat with aren't disillusioned at all. It's still TrumpOk, I'll need some context here. Not sure what the latest narrative is in Cloud Coocooland, or WTF "Phil"is.
But... I take it the nutters are pissed bc saying he is running for 24 means he's not coming back in..22, 23, or whatever, and the fabled Storm was in fact, just madness and fakery?
..And since it's not happening now, Trump, and Phil, suck and must be burned at the stake?
... Or maybe they should consider it was fking nuts maybe? Wait, no... Definitely burn at the stake.
I've chatted with a few hard core Trump supporters, their view is Trump, or don't bother voting. Might turn out to be a great day for the democrats if they stick with that for two more years.I agree with the overall focus on culture war (and it’s clear DeSantis does too, unfortunately) If Trump decides to go after him though he will have to respond. If you let your primary opponent shit on you for six months without saying anything they will bury you.
DeSantis has the backing of a bunch of right wing media it would appear but he’s got to keep them. Right wing media much more than mainstream media does not want Trump because for mainstream media the goal is to make money (Trump = clicks) while for right wing media the goal is ideological (Trump = losing elections). Trump is very good at getting attention but very bad at winning elections.
I agree with the overall focus on culture war (and it’s clear DeSantis does too, unfortunately) If Trump decides to go after him though he will have to respond. If you let your primary opponent shit on you for six months without saying anything they will bury you.
DeSantis has the backing of a bunch of right wing media it would appear but he’s got to keep them. Right wing media much more than mainstream media does not want Trump because for mainstream media the goal is to make money (Trump = clicks) while for right wing media the goal is ideological (Trump = losing elections). Trump is very good at getting attention but very bad at winning elections.
I hear you but the right answer is to prosecute Trump regardless of the electoral implications. As someone said a coup left unpunished is practice.Your right in that if there is anything Donald hates, it’s not being the center of attention. And the reason Trump wants to declare before Garland indicts him, so he can yell “UNFAIR!” and “HOAX!” And now he gets to say his inevitable indictment is politically motivated. Obviously he should be arrested, but I think if he is running around free it will be good for the Democrats. He pretty much pivoted to Presidential primary mode the second the polls closed, and he’s set to spend the next year and a half attacking Republicans.
Running for elected office has always been a vanity project for Trump. He’s only looking for a vehicle to promote himself. He has no plans or goals. He's found that running for office is a sure-fire way for him to grift for money. As long as he's alive - Trump will never stop running for office because it’s now become a source of income for him. Eventually the donations would dry up. But Trump’s seventy-six years old. I’m pretty sure he can keep the scams going for the rest of his lifetime. He thinks the elections are "rigged" but he keeps running in them. One of his best scams.
One guess is the Republicans are now praying that the Dems prosecute Trump. Then they can all piously say how awful that was and you had better elect DeSantis to stop these evil Dems who unfairly crucified their beloved leader. In private though, they will be thrilled. Dems take the beating (politically) and feeds the Republican narrative and they are also done with the orange menace. Win/win for Republicans.
While I really want to see Trump prosecuted I also want to see him be the albatross around the republican neck. Not sure how to square that one.
If Ron takes a deal from trump for a pardon, trump can help Ron study up on foreign policy by letting him read some of “trump’s” presidential documents.This will be a good thing cuz Trump will test the dickhead Ron's commitment to being as reactionary, bigoted, sexist, and as fascist as possible.
I'm not sure if dick head Ron has enough finesse to push back against the rabid desires of the GQP base that Trump is going to unleash because he will soon seem too moderate to them.
It's going to be a really fine line for Ron to maneuver. To be as radical as Trump to rile up the base while also pushing Trump away as crazy.
I would have thought this fat sack of shit would have a heart attack from emotional eating after his ass was popped out of the white house 2 years ago. Didn't most trumpies shit on their man because of his vaccine mandates or encouraging people to get them? trumpies are a marvel of stupidity and hypocrisy.
I'm not getting any younger!Give it time ...
Happy to but first let's make sure they know I know why they think they know I am wrong."look what you made me do" ....lol
Maybe toss some blame where it belongs.
You pretty much have it correct. The Qanon influencers have been promising an event in which martial law would be called, the military take control and Trump installed.
Like a doomsday cult, they have been regularly predicting an EBS signal that would start the "storm."
And over and over again, that never happened.
Quite possibly true. DeSantis will have to keep in mind that if he wants to lure Trumps lunatic fringe base to him, he can’t think ahead to the general election. The MAGA base don’t want policy statements. They don’t want statesmanship. They don’t want ideas, direction or plans. They want a show. They want simple slogans, insults and childish nicknames. This is what will motivate the MAGA primary voter.
He’ll need to come up with a simplistic slogan. One that demonstrates he hates the same people they do - keeping it general enough so that the hated out-group exists in the mind of the hater. He’ll need to come up with a couple of nicknames for Trump, and use them over and over again. He’ll need to show that he’s a bigger bully than Trump. That is what the MAGA voters will respond to. We'll see how he responds. But the smart thing to do will be to ignore Trumps attacks.