It is official : Al Gore shares Nobel Peace Prize

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Jawo

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Originally posted by: BigRig04
Well, it's official. The Nobel Peace Prize is a joke. That's really too bad because it used to mean something.

This is a guy who people have sympathy for because of the 2000 election, and as others have said profits off of global warming and does nothing himself to help the cause other than tell people that THEY have to fight the good fight, is going to be running around saying "listen to me!! I have a peace prize!!"

Yes, Climate Change is a fact. No, no one has proven that it's man made. I challenge anyone here (even Al Gore himself) to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that humans are causing it.

Isn't it sad that the former VP has to resort to telling lies and attention whoring just to stay in the public spotlight?

Gore is nowhere near the level of Nelson Mandela, Jimmy Carter, Doctors without Borders, Aung San Suu Kyi, etc, etc

I think that Al Sharpton will apologize to the Duke Lacrose players sooner than Gore will prove that global warming is purely man made.
 

Mxylplyx

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Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: BigRig04
Well, it's official. The Nobel Peace Prize is a joke. That's really too bad because it used to mean something.

This is a guy who people have sympathy for because of the 2000 election, and as others have said profits off of global warming and does nothing himself to help the cause other than tell people that THEY have to fight the good fight, is going to be running around saying "listen to me!! I have a peace prize!!"

Yes, Climate Change is a fact. No, no one has proven that it's man made. I challenge anyone here (even Al Gore himself) to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that humans are causing it.


Ok I will play your game.
Prove "beyond a shadow of a doubt" that humans are not causing any of it.


You fail. Cant prove a negative.
 

BigRig04

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Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: BigRig04
Well, it's official. The Nobel Peace Prize is a joke. That's really too bad because it used to mean something.

This is a guy who people have sympathy for because of the 2000 election, and as others have said profits off of global warming and does nothing himself to help the cause other than tell people that THEY have to fight the good fight, is going to be running around saying "listen to me!! I have a peace prize!!"

Yes, Climate Change is a fact. No, no one has proven that it's man made. I challenge anyone here (even Al Gore himself) to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that humans are causing it.


Ok I will play your game.
Prove "beyond a shadow of a doubt" that humans are not causing any of it.

That's my point. I can't prove it's not us, you (nothing personal) cannot prove that it is. All we can do is look at history and see that Climate change has happened numerous times before.
 

Pabster

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Apr 15, 2001
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Originally posted by: MikeO

What has Gore done for global warming? Other than adding to it and making scientifically inaccurate documents about it? And what the hell does global warming have to do with world peace?

Worst nomination, ever.

QFT. It's a total disgrace.
 

Vette73

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Jul 5, 2000
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Originally posted by: BigRig04
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: BigRig04
Well, it's official. The Nobel Peace Prize is a joke. That's really too bad because it used to mean something.

This is a guy who people have sympathy for because of the 2000 election, and as others have said profits off of global warming and does nothing himself to help the cause other than tell people that THEY have to fight the good fight, is going to be running around saying "listen to me!! I have a peace prize!!"

Yes, Climate Change is a fact. No, no one has proven that it's man made. I challenge anyone here (even Al Gore himself) to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that humans are causing it.


Ok I will play your game.
Prove "beyond a shadow of a doubt" that humans are not causing any of it.

That's my point. I can't prove it's not us, you (nothing personal) cannot prove that it is. All we can do is look at history and see that Climate change has happened numerous times before.


So we should polute and not worry about it?
Thats the bare message of global warming, there are options and for those there are not maybe we should come up with some. You notice most of the people attackling Gore/GW are from big business, oil, power companies, etc...
 

Jawo

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Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: BigRig04
Well, it's official. The Nobel Peace Prize is a joke. That's really too bad because it used to mean something.

This is a guy who people have sympathy for because of the 2000 election, and as others have said profits off of global warming and does nothing himself to help the cause other than tell people that THEY have to fight the good fight, is going to be running around saying "listen to me!! I have a peace prize!!"

Yes, Climate Change is a fact. No, no one has proven that it's man made. I challenge anyone here (even Al Gore himself) to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that humans are causing it.


Ok I will play your game.
Prove "beyond a shadow of a doubt" that humans are not causing any of it.

I find it interesting that no one was crying chicken little in the 1970's when Time, et al, were complaining about Global Cooling. Not to mention the fact that there was a scientifically proven "Little Ice Age" in the 19th century. PBS site about the Little Ice Age You can talk ice cores all you want, but the past 50-100 years is nothing but a blink of the eye in the total duration of the Earth! The Earth could just be warming up to "normal" levels from the most recent ice age.
 

AnitaPeterson

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I'll be celebrating the news in Rome, in three weeks, at an international panel on the environment...
 

Jawo

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Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: BigRig04
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: BigRig04
Well, it's official. The Nobel Peace Prize is a joke. That's really too bad because it used to mean something.

This is a guy who people have sympathy for because of the 2000 election, and as others have said profits off of global warming and does nothing himself to help the cause other than tell people that THEY have to fight the good fight, is going to be running around saying "listen to me!! I have a peace prize!!"

Yes, Climate Change is a fact. No, no one has proven that it's man made. I challenge anyone here (even Al Gore himself) to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that humans are causing it.


Ok I will play your game.
Prove "beyond a shadow of a doubt" that humans are not causing any of it.

That's my point. I can't prove it's not us, you (nothing personal) cannot prove that it is. All we can do is look at history and see that Climate change has happened numerous times before.


So we should polute and not worry about it?
Thats the bare message of global warming, there are options and for those there are not maybe we should come up with some. You notice most of the people attackling Gore/GW are from big business, oil, power companies, etc...

No matter how clean we are in the good olde US of A, we will still suffer the effects of the great Asian industrial revolution. Without a doubt, everyone can agree that pollution is bad (SOx, NOx, particulate matter). The money is too great and the regulations far to weak in China for them to care about polution, therefore the whole world suffers from their stupidity.
 

JulesMaximus

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Jul 3, 2003
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Originally posted by: Acanthus
Originally posted by: Sunner
A strange choice for the peace price, that's for sure.
Then again, they did hand it to Arafat once.

Hitler was nominated.

Any idiot can be nominated. It doesn't mean squat unless you actually are awarded it.
 

BigRig04

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Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: BigRig04
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: BigRig04
Well, it's official. The Nobel Peace Prize is a joke. That's really too bad because it used to mean something.

This is a guy who people have sympathy for because of the 2000 election, and as others have said profits off of global warming and does nothing himself to help the cause other than tell people that THEY have to fight the good fight, is going to be running around saying "listen to me!! I have a peace prize!!"

Yes, Climate Change is a fact. No, no one has proven that it's man made. I challenge anyone here (even Al Gore himself) to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that humans are causing it.


Ok I will play your game.
Prove "beyond a shadow of a doubt" that humans are not causing any of it.

That's my point. I can't prove it's not us, you (nothing personal) cannot prove that it is. All we can do is look at history and see that Climate change has happened numerous times before.


So we should polute and not worry about it?
Thats the bare message of global warming, there are options and for those there are not maybe we should come up with some. You notice most of the people attackling Gore/GW are from big business, oil, power companies, etc...

Jawo brings up a good point. In the 70's people were concerned about a new ice age, and now we're worried about the world melting (yes, I'm exagerating). The point is we don't have any direct control over the planet. It's "smart" enough to take care of itself. The temp will go up and down, and unless Dubya has some crazy terraforming technology he's been saving for his space base on Mars, I don't think we're going to have direct control over an entire planet for quite some time.

And no, we shouldn't "polute and not worry about it". That's not what I am saying, or anyone I know who doubts man made global warming. What I am saying is running around screaming about GW and trying to scare the entire world into thinking like you is nuts. GW is basically a new religion...if anyone ever challenges it, people come out of every corner telling you why you're wrong to challenge.
 

spittledip

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Seriously, if Gore can win the Nobel Peace Prize for this, Michael Moore should win one for the work he has done as it is in the same league with Gore's stuff, except it is a bit more relevant as Moore's work is about social issues which is what the Peace Prize is supposed to be about. However, Moore could never win b/c of his status. Really ridiculous stuff.
 

CyberDuck

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Originally posted by: piasabird
What does global warming have to do with peace?

The Nobel Peace Prize is just a popularity contests. That is what it looks like to me. The Gates Foundation is more worthy of a Peace Prize.

As global warming is the by far biggest issue facing humanity it has everything to do with peace. There will be large scale refugee crisis and wars over resources in the coming decades. Trying to prevent it from happening, or at least trying to make it become a little less bad is preemtive peace work.

regards

Jostein
 

imported_Shivetya

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Originally posted by: Jawo
Originally posted by: BigRig04
Well, it's official. The Nobel Peace Prize is a joke. That's really too bad because it used to mean something.

This is a guy who people have sympathy for because of the 2000 election, and as others have said profits off of global warming and does nothing himself to help the cause other than tell people that THEY have to fight the good fight, is going to be running around saying "listen to me!! I have a peace prize!!"

Yes, Climate Change is a fact. No, no one has proven that it's man made. I challenge anyone here (even Al Gore himself) to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that humans are causing it.

Isn't it sad that the former VP has to resort to telling lies and attention whoring just to stay in the public spotlight?

Gore is nowhere near the level of Nelson Mandela, Jimmy Carter, Doctors without Borders, Aung San Suu Kyi, etc, etc

I think that Al Sharpton will apologize to the Duke Lacrose players sooner than Gore will prove that global warming is purely man made.


Actually Gore refuses to debate it calling the issue "settled".
 

imported_Shivetya

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Originally posted by: CyberDuck
Originally posted by: piasabird
What does global warming have to do with peace?

The Nobel Peace Prize is just a popularity contests. That is what it looks like to me. The Gates Foundation is more worthy of a Peace Prize.

As global warming is the by far biggest issue facing humanity it has everything to do with peace. There will be large scale refugee crisis and wars over resources in the coming decades. Trying to prevent it from happening, or at least trying to make it become a little less bad is preemtive peace work.

regards

Jostein

Same dire warnings were given should global cooling occur... mass migrations and starvation...


thats always the fall back, if your facts don't support your stance then scare them to death


we cannot even prove that our measurements of environmental conditions is correct, let alone the fact that its not complete data. How can you react when you don't have all the data?

 

spittledip

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Good for Gore - he deserves the Nobel Peace Prize.


Mayby someone will award Bush the 'WAR' prize.

He will have to settle for 'the greatest disaster in American history'.

Maybe he'll get a saying like America piddled while God talked to burning Bush, the ash from Crawford Texas.

You say these hateful things b/c you hate yourself. When you see the evil in this man, you are merely holding up a mirror. If you were able to see how good you really are, you would be able to forgive yourself for your mistakes, and then be able to forgive others for their mistakes as well.

 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: randym431
Fred Thomson. Al Gore. I think the reason people are looking to these "other" choices is that the whole election process started way way way too early and had too much attention. How many debates have we had so far??? How much news coverage???

Way too early. many are burnt out already. And attention span is not able to function.

By the time Summer of 2008 rolls around, we'll be looking at Pee Wee Herman and some guy from American Idol as alternatives.


BTW, congrads Al!!! U the man!


I think pee wee's interest in public lewdness might hurt his candicay. then again, he could be a perfect republican candidate


anyhoo, I too am hoping the US election swings towards the AI system of voting. "Text-vote early, and text-vote often!!" as if that's so unusual....
 

CyberDuck

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Originally posted by: Shivetya
Originally posted by: CyberDuck
Originally posted by: piasabird
What does global warming have to do with peace?

The Nobel Peace Prize is just a popularity contests. That is what it looks like to me. The Gates Foundation is more worthy of a Peace Prize.

As global warming is the by far biggest issue facing humanity it has everything to do with peace. There will be large scale refugee crisis and wars over resources in the coming decades. Trying to prevent it from happening, or at least trying to make it become a little less bad is preemtive peace work.

regards

Jostein

Same dire warnings were given should global cooling occur... mass migrations and starvation...


thats always the fall back, if your facts don't support your stance then scare them to death


we cannot even prove that our measurements of environmental conditions is correct, let alone the fact that its not complete data. How can you react when you don't have all the data?

The world has settled on this issue. The conclusion was that it is happening and is man made. New data points to it beeing much worse than anticipated. Thats the facts the world has to face up to. And Al Gore is one of the persons who has had the guts to put the issue into the light even for ignorant americans.

Regards

Jostein
 

nageov3t

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Congrats to the greatest President we never had and the greatest Vice President we have had. :thumbsup:

:laugh:

I don't even know how to respond to the absurdity of that.

in any event... there's no way in hell al gore's running. his life has been a lot better since he got out of washington.
 

Jawo

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Originally posted by: CyberDuck
Originally posted by: piasabird
What does global warming have to do with peace?

The Nobel Peace Prize is just a popularity contests. That is what it looks like to me. The Gates Foundation is more worthy of a Peace Prize.

As global warming is the by far biggest issue facing humanity it has everything to do with peace. There will be large scale refugee crisis and wars over resources in the coming decades. Trying to prevent it from happening, or at least trying to make it become a little less bad is preemtive peace work.

regards

Jostein

The biggest problem today is that there are more people alive now (6.62 billion)then there have been in the history of humans COMBINED! In previous times the Earth would revolt against humaity and kill many people off (the Plague most noteworthy). There has not been one natural great mass die off of people since the 1918 flu! If you read the PBS article I previously mentioned, it says that people were dying of starvation in the last little ice age, when there were many fewer people on the planet. All of the technology and genetic engineering can not feed everyone if farmers are selling their arrable land for housing / commercial purposes!
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: MikeO

And what the hell does global warming have to do with world peace?

Ah, the shit stacks high with this one.

remove the blinders and try to apply that brain of yours to abstract thought. You might come across the relevant applications. Almost every nobel prize in economics is awarded to mathematicians who never applied their theories towards economic principles. Nothing unusual.

Climate change, however, is perhaps the most important issue regarding world peace. If you can't consider the socio-economic factors--among them mass migration, conflicts that are sure to errupt over dwindling natural resources, etc., then you have no hope...The differences in beliefs and ancient rights of land between a handful of nations are petty compared to something that effects the planet everyone lives on.
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: BigRig04
Well, it's official. The Nobel Peace Prize is a joke. That's really too bad because it used to mean something.

This is a guy who people have sympathy for because of the 2000 election, and as others have said profits off of global warming and does nothing himself to help the cause other than tell people that THEY have to fight the good fight, is going to be running around saying "listen to me!! I have a peace prize!!"

Yes, Climate Change is a fact. No, no one has proven that it's man made. I challenge anyone here (even Al Gore himself) to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that humans are causing it.


only the yahoos claim that humans are causing it. the overwhelmingly vast majority of data supports the notion that humans contribute to it. the debate revolves around how significant that contribution is. it takes the extremists and moon landing-deniers such as yourself to misinterpret these findings and make up your own views about what scientists are doing, in order to trash them.

go back home and leave the important work to those who matter
 

Moonbeam

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Al Gore winning the Nobel is like manna from heaven, a fresh new corpse for the maggots to feed on.
 

TheSlamma

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I think he should spend the money on hybrids and solar panels for his place so he can stop being a hypocrite.
 

Jawo

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Originally posted by: Shivetya
Originally posted by: Jawo
Originally posted by: BigRig04
Well, it's official. The Nobel Peace Prize is a joke. That's really too bad because it used to mean something.

This is a guy who people have sympathy for because of the 2000 election, and as others have said profits off of global warming and does nothing himself to help the cause other than tell people that THEY have to fight the good fight, is going to be running around saying "listen to me!! I have a peace prize!!"

Yes, Climate Change is a fact. No, no one has proven that it's man made. I challenge anyone here (even Al Gore himself) to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that humans are causing it.

Isn't it sad that the former VP has to resort to telling lies and attention whoring just to stay in the public spotlight?

Gore is nowhere near the level of Nelson Mandela, Jimmy Carter, Doctors without Borders, Aung San Suu Kyi, etc, etc

I think that Al Sharpton will apologize to the Duke Lacrose players sooner than Gore will prove that global warming is purely man made.


Actually Gore refuses to debate it calling the issue "settled".

You're signature "Al Gore will save the environment because he is willing to make other people sacrifice" agrees with what I said earlier "Do as I say not as I do." Think about all the enviromental damage he did when flying around the world to promote his new "film." If he was a true enviromentalist he would have teleconferenced from his energy efficient house.
 
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