it looks like the repubs didnt pay that heavy of a price for overturning roe v wade.
Also state by state ballot measures, even in deep red states where the GQP fascists thought they had the moral high ground, are shoving Roe v Wade back in their faces.Yeah I too am perplexed by how you got that conclusion.
Don't be sad. Senate Dem incumbents pulled of a perfect (and unheard of) 14-0 in the midterms! Neither party has had such a turnout and since 1934.
GQP paid through the nose for Roe v Wade, and the bill isn't even close to being settled. Team Treason is petrified about the future for many reasons, their only hope is partisan perjurers on the SCOTUS completely destroying future elections with ELT.
i guess the repub calculations for overturning roe v wade had them still gaining the House.Yeah I too am perplexed by how you got that conclusion.
Don't be sad. Senate Dem incumbents pulled of a perfect (and unheard of) 14-0 in the midterms! Neither party has had such a turnout and since 1934.
GQP paid through the nose for Roe v Wade, and the bill isn't even close to being settled. Team Treason is petrified about the future for many reasons, their only hope is partisan perjurers on the SCOTUS completely destroying future elections with ELT.
i guess the repub calculations for overturning roe v wade had them still gaining the House.
so not much of a cost to them in doing so.
yes, it's a smaller majority but the effect is still the same.. impeding biden's agenda.
so losing a few house seats is a small price paid in my view for a huge victory for them.
a heavy price paid, in my opinion, would be the repubs NOT gaining control of the house and the dems steamrolling the repubs on bills passed during 2022-2024.
if the repubs lose the next 4+ presidential elections because of RvW, then yes that would be a heavy price.
but right now, losing a few seats yet still able to stop biden's agenda cold is not.
and mccarthy still cant get 218 votes:House speaker clown circus update:
mccarthy has a slim 4 vote margin and there are 5 repubs on record saying they'll vote against him.
And what will happen if he can’t get 218 votes? No one knows.
The last time a vote for speaker had to go to multiple ballots was in 1923. And the longest time in history it took to elect a speaker lasted two months, with a total of 133 ballots.
Well, one could argue that without R v W decision, the Repubs would have taken control of both the Senate and the House, as well as winning more governorships and other state/local offices. Not sure I agree with that, but that is the thinking of those who say the Repubs paid a high price for the decision. If one really looks closely, the thing that really seems to have hurt the Repubs is the election deniers and just plain lousy candidates (ahem... Herschel, Kari Lake, Dr. Oz).i guess the repub calculations for overturning roe v wade had them still gaining the House.
so not much of a cost to them in doing so.
yes, it's a smaller majority but the effect is still the same.. impeding biden's agenda.
so losing a few house seats is a small price paid in my view for a huge victory for them.
a heavy price paid, in my opinion, would be the repubs NOT gaining control of the house and the dems steamrolling the repubs on bills passed during 2022-2024.
if the repubs lose the next 4+ presidential elections because of RvW, then yes that would be a heavy price.
but right now, losing a few seats yet still able to stop biden's agenda cold is not.
Imagine if they can’t elect a speaker for the entire termand mccarthy still cant get 218 votes:
McCarthy says hardliners 'have not moved' in opposition to speaker's bid and could put GOP agenda 'in jeopardy' | CNN Politics
House GOP Leader Kevin McCarthy said Friday that five conservative hardliners have not budged in their opposition to his speaker's bid, offering dire warnings that their hard-fought Republican majority could be derailed if they don't bend.www.cnn.com
those 5 repubs still oppose him.
house new session starts jan 3 which is 3 weeks away
/popcorn
hm.. interesting.. if there's no new speaker, does that mean the committees investigating trump can still do work until they are disbanded?
does that mean the committees stay as they are? (with most of them dem controlled)Imagine if they can’t elect a speaker for the entire term
No everything is scraped each term. But is there anything that the speaker controls when forming committees? Committee seats are allocated based full house percentagedoes that mean the committees stay as they are? (with most of them dem controlled)
with the newly elected house members being committee less till a speaker is chosen?
Lol the spineless one better hope it’s 218 and not just a majority present. Dems can pull out the rug from under him otherwiseWeekly update:
McCarthy still doesnt have the votes.
Hm.. Does McCarthy actually need 218 or just a majority of people who show up on Speaker vote day (Jan 3, 2023)?
Repubs are doing Machiavelli. (His book offers advice on how to stay in power.)Trump denied elections, McCarthy denied Joe Biden and still does, most of the republican house who are about to take over denied Joe Biden. And Kari Lake still refuses to concede.
Why, WHY is it that democrats always end up respectful of how the game is played while republicans just thumb their nose?
Update:A dem has come out saying he's confident McCarthy has votes to be Speaker
Hoyer confident McCarthy has votes to be Speaker
House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) on Sunday said he would be “surprised” if House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) does not have enough votes to bec…thehill.com
After all the sucking, swallowing and lube used the past few months, I wonder what McCarthy did to change the mind's of 1 of the 5 Repubs that vowed not to vote for him?
Because they have different fucking constituencies, duh.When McCarthy stands there waiting for Pelosi to hand him the gavel I think Nancy should just refuse. Keep a tight grip on that wooden mallet and just say no.... no... its mine. You're not going to get it.
After all, isn't that the way it's done these days?
Trump denied elections, McCarthy denied Joe Biden and still does, most of the republican house who are about to take over denied Joe Biden. And Kari Lake still refuses to concede.
Why, WHY is it that democrats always end up respectful of how the game is played while republicans just thumb their nose? Republicans refuse elections, they refuse to testify at hearings, they refuse to obey subpoenas, they refuse to play the game and abide by the rules. Refuse to even respect the rules. Republicans shake their fist at democracy, at the rule of law and abiding by the US constitution. So again I ask, why should Nancy Pelosi hand over that gavel?
Instead, Nancy needs to run off to some lawyer, get an injunction halting the entire process, exactly as the republicans do. Tie the transition process up in the courts for three years. I would... Nancy should.
House democrats should stand there and shout KEEP THAt GAVEL... KEEP THAT GAVEL... KEEP THAT GAVEL...
Yes, Trump endorsements are almost a guaranteed loss in any competitive race.Well he’s right about the dog finally catching the car. But he fails on his 233-20 record. The ones he most pushed for all basically lost. The others are in solid red districts. If his lose record were to increase, house wouldn’t have flipped.
If every single pro-lifer in the U S voted for trump he’d still have lost, there aren’t that many pro-lifers in the country.
Depends on how you define pro-life.If every single pro-lifer in the U S voted for trump he’d still have lost, there aren’t that many pro-lifers in the country.
Depends on how you define pro-life.
Abortion
With respect to the abortion issue, would you consider yourself to be pro-choice or pro-life? Do you think abortions should be legal under any circumstances, legal only under certain circumstances, or illegal in all circumstances?news.gallup.com
Gallup has support for Abortions without any restrictions at 35% and Abortion illegal in all circumstances at 13%
So if there were abortion laws that allowed for abortion for incest and rape and didn't allow for 3rd trimester abortions, that may well be something that would get over 50% support.
One very narrowly specific poll does not validate your claim. Most Polls showed only around 30% supported the Roe v Wade reversal. Also, do you have any polls you can show me what percentage of pro-lifers voted for Biden instead of trump?Depends on how you define pro-life.
Abortion
With respect to the abortion issue, would you consider yourself to be pro-choice or pro-life? Do you think abortions should be legal under any circumstances, legal only under certain circumstances, or illegal in all circumstances?news.gallup.com
Gallup has support for Abortions without any restrictions at 35% and Abortion illegal in all circumstances at 13%
So if there were abortion laws that allowed for abortion for incest and rape and didn't allow for 3rd trimester abortions, that may well be something that would get over 50% support.
The polling is pretty clear. No restrictions is much more popular than a full ban but support generally starts extremely high and declines as the pregnancy progresses.Depends on how you define pro-life.
Abortion
With respect to the abortion issue, would you consider yourself to be pro-choice or pro-life? Do you think abortions should be legal under any circumstances, legal only under certain circumstances, or illegal in all circumstances?news.gallup.com
Gallup has support for Abortions without any restrictions at 35% and Abortion illegal in all circumstances at 13%
So if there were abortion laws that allowed for abortion for incest and rape and didn't allow for 3rd trimester abortions, that may well be something that would get over 50% support.