It is time for me to grow and become a complete lamb initiate

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sdifox

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Will you all _please_ stop giving me cravings in threads that aren't supposed to be about food?

First the covidiot thread fills up with hog-dog recipes, then this...


Fine something more your taste then
 

MrSquished

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I think this topic has run it's predictable course.

Time to start posting lamb recipes instead and make this thread awesome.
Agreed. Lamb is so delicious.

If you like it, a simple but great Greek recipe for it is called Kleftiko. Give it a whirl. Tavas is the onion stew one. Chunks of lamb cooked on a spit over charcoal is Souvla. That's just lamb, salt and pepper and a hit if oregano at the end. Super simple.
 
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BoomerD

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I'm not a fan of lamb. Every time I've had it, it seemed to leave kind of a greasy coating in my mouth. Grew up with friends where lamb chops were a common meal...no thanks.

That said, we had dinner tonight at the local "world famous" Galway Bay Irish pub and restaurant. Had their shepherd's pie which is made with a mix of beef and lamb. That's not terrible.
 
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sdifox

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I'm not a fan of lamb. Every time I've had it, it seemed to leave kind of a greasy coating in my mouth. Grew up with friends where lamb chops were a common meal...no thanks.

That said, we had dinner tonight at the local "world famous" Galway Bay pub and restaurant. Had their shepherd's pie which is made with a mix of beef and lamb. That's not terrible.


Charcoal roasted lamb is yummy
 

nakedfrog

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I'm not a fan of lamb. Every time I've had it, it seemed to leave kind of a greasy coating in my mouth. Grew up with friends where lamb chops were a common meal...no thanks.

That said, we had dinner tonight at the local "world famous" Galway Bay pub and restaurant. Had their shepherd's pie which is made with a mix of beef and lamb. That's not terrible.
I wonder if that's part of the mouthfeel of beef & lamb gyros, seems plausible.
 

Torn Mind

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Mariah
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Honestly how do you confuse the two?
Her fans are called lambs. The Lambily is the entire "family"

I'm about to go all in on joining The Lambiliy. This wouldn't be the first fandom I've joined.

It's not different from The Clones, although I actually haven't had a chance to listen to Jim Rome in a few years.
 

sdifox

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Her fans are called lambs. The Lambily is the entire "family"

I'm about to go all in on joining The Lambiliy. This wouldn't be the first fandom I've joined.

It's not different from The Clones, although I actually haven't had a chance to listen to Jim Rome in a few years.


Like "Lambs to the slaughter"?
 
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Torn Mind

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I've now finished listening to Emotions three times, seems like I've gotten a full grasp of the songs. It took me 7-8 to fully grasp the first album.

The titular track is probably the catchiest and upbeat track. The common perfect first note, and all the subtle inflections and note changes are present, and is quite upbeat, a bit of a contrast from her weighty first album.

The feel of the album is certainly different and "weaker" than the first album, which probably isn't surprising as she had a permanent falling out with Ben Marguiles

She says she wasn't affected by opera....not sure if I can fully buy that, possibly a little bit did rub off on her subconsciously. She sure sets up long notes in an operatic manner often.

Whistle notes=piccolo flute.

Her utilization of intentionally adding gritty or growl-like edge to her tone at certain points(I'm not sure how to describe it) is right up my alley of favorite sounds. Belinda Carlisle used that often, including in her hit Heaven is a Place on Earth.

You're So Cold sure was interesting, from the striking opening to the way she colors the song. She personally doesn't like the song. Might be because it becomes a little repetitive after the striking beginning.

The three singles are also excellent.
 
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Torn Mind

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The plan was to rapidly go through her discography. Well, that got derailed by the second album. In particular, the tracks Emotions and You're So Cold. Somewhere in that group of songwriters, is one who had some exposure to the likes of music from the times of Mozart and Beethoven because two of the songs certainly have the "flow" of music not quite in the then-present.

I only just re-listened to the first album in full. Really striking how a different collaborating songwriter can change "cadence" of the songs.

You're So Cold develops no different than the opening of many Adagio-Allegros present in the music of the 18th century. Just that the stylistic signature differs due to the upbringing and environment of the songwriters. Rather than pleasing the ears of learned nobles, the style of gospel is featured in the slow opening. But flow of notes is akin to the masters of the past. Then, as the end of the slow opening ends and the fast movement begins, there are a eight measures to acclimate to the faster pace before the melody proper begins. Mozart's Linz Symphony takes 10 measures of a fast introduction, for reference.
Use of the rhythm eighth rest-eighth note-eighth note- eighth note/note on the beat is a prominent feature in the song. And 3:58 ends a section with a long note similar to a trill.


Emotions too, draws loose parallels with the music of the past.
One, it's partially "borrowed" from two sources. "The Best of Love". Just like The Magic Flute overture uses a theme (without permission) from Clementi's Sonata in B-flat, Op. 24 No. 2.
Two, the borrowers songwriting talent shows that even with derivative themes, there are seemingly insignificiant ways to "glue the bars together" so the song flows far better, including a simple rising scale before the "recapitulation.
Three, there is loose semblance in how it initially develops and the final movement of Mozart's K. 333. The main theme, followed by a choppy second transition, then a "moving theme", then back to the main theme.
Four, as master, most others will find the song impossible to perform with their own voice.

I call the "The Confluence" because it is evident many styles were internalized by her and she knows how to implment the notes into her song. Emotions is not just a reach back to disco, it's also a reach into opera and subtle lyrical techniques.

I don't sing; I only played piano, so I am quite blind to the difficulty of singer doing what they do. But the little bit of learning on the piano and listening to one too many Mozart recordings has made sensitized to all his tricks of his.
 

Shmee

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She is the wolf that leads the flock.
 

Torn Mind

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Of course, the first C+C Music Factory song I explore to see how they wrote for other singers, it happens to be a song that has been heard before but I never bother to find out who wrote it or sung it.


(The real singer is Martha Wash).

Catchy yes, but I'm not feeling Mozartian vibes that Emotions had...
 

Torn Mind

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Is Mariah Carey also better with some mint apple jelly?
My appreciation is strictly intellectual and emotional. The eye candy is strictly for others' balls to make testosterone over; I feel nothing.

Wine from 266 year old Austrian manufacturer wine is the best.

The Rosetta Stone found at 231 years old.

238 years old
Corresponding with Black Irish's Emotions

One out of many symphonies Corresponding with "You're So Cold"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DT5v3aO69CA

240 years old

Corresponding with "Always Be My Baby"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTwm5XWwOKg



Some grapes never change. The rhythm immortalized by Beethoven and used in You're So Cold, and many other works of music.
 

nakedfrog

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So kinda like The Kiss Army?


Everyone gets compares to Beethoven, Mozart, Mariah or that other female singer he's all crazy for, in his threads/posts.
JoJo, but not that JoJo, the other JoJo (I forget who it is)
 

herm0016

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I thought this thread was about delicious lamb dishes.

Son, I am disappoint.

i thought maybe he was raising lambs... we should have between 8 and 12 lambs in about 6 weeks, If you are in the area or want to pay shipping, we can send you some about middle of November.
 
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Iron Woode

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i thought maybe he was raising lambs... we should have between 8 and 12 lambs in about 6 weeks, If you are in the area or want to pay shipping, we can send you some about middle of November.
while that would be awesome, I live in Canada. Plus I don't have enough room in my freezer.

 
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