IT Salaries

[Kadarin]

Those salaries do seem quite low. Here in San Jose, CA, that would be poverty-level.

 

[edro]

Same job is ~$55k in Columbus, Ohio...

 

[JzL]

edit: no one cares about my comment

 

[austin316]

Originally posted by: austin316
in IT, do you have a chance to move up and get into a management level position?

I'm gonna graduate next year with a double major MIS/Finance. What would be the more lucrative field? I enjoy both equally.

also, if I started in IT, worked a couple of year, could I go to get my MBA specialization in something other than IT, say Inverstment banking?

any thoughts?

 

[edro]

No, you don't move up in IT unless you learn something new. If you wanna move up, you need to get into finance or business... Good Luck (I am stuck in IT )

 

[toy4x4]

IT Management ipositions are out there. There are two listed above

It will depend on the company.

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: edro13
No, you don't move up in IT unless you learn something new. If you wanna move up, you need to get into finance or business... Good Luck (I am stuck in IT )

Not true...I started out on desktop here in late 1997, moved to the server engineering group in early 2001, since June of 2003 I have been managing the server engineering group and the network engineering group here.

 

[vi edit]

Originally posted by: toy4x4
Rest of Arizona, maybe. Scottsdale no. And no, I'm not driving a hour each way to work...

Meh. You could live in Mesa, Tempe, Glendale, or Paradise Valley, all of which are much cheaper than Scottsdale and only have a 25-30 minute drive. 70g's in Mesa will have you living quite well.

 

[RagingBITCH]

toy4x4 - on the flip side, what about the high side of that range? Is that still considered low? There are companies willing to offer positions to underqualified individuals who might be willing to work for that kind of money if they don't necessarily have the right certifications or maybe lack the experience by a few years.

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
toy4x4 - on the flip side, what about the high side of that range? Is that still considered low? There are companies willing to offer positions to underqualified individuals who might be willing to work for that kind of money if they don't necessarily have the right certifications or maybe lack the experience by a few years.

Don't know about him.....but I would consider the high side of that range to still be low.....especially in a high cost of living area like DC.

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: toy4x4
Cruising through the posting at Monster.com and fine the salaries to be rediculous....

40,000-70,000 for a IT Manager position in Washington DC....
65,000-73,000 for a Datacenter Operations Manager in Scottsdale, Az.... (reports to VP...)

many more in high cost areas with shyt salaries...

having lived and worked in the IT industry in DC I can honestly say that is a lowball fig for an IT manager unless they are talking about a team lead or entry level IT management position, I know here in boston which is high cost those salaries are right on but then again the market is dead here.

 

[Shockwave]

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: edro13
No, you don't move up in IT unless you learn something new. If you wanna move up, you need to get into finance or business... Good Luck (I am stuck in IT )

Not true...I started out on desktop here in late 1997, moved to the server engineering group in early 2001, since June of 2003 I have been managing the server engineering group and the network engineering group here.

True, because you learned something new, you moved up. You've been there 5 YEARS, of course you should have learned something new and moved up by then.

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: Shockwave

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: edro13
No, you don't move up in IT unless you learn something new. If you wanna move up, you need to get into finance or business... Good Luck (I am stuck in IT )

Not true...I started out on desktop here in late 1997, moved to the server engineering group in early 2001, since June of 2003 I have been managing the server engineering group and the network engineering group here.

True, because you learned something new, you moved up. You've been there 5 YEARS, of course you should have learned something new and moved up by then.

7 years this October.

True I moved up because I took the initiative to grow my skills environment. However before I came here I had been a server tech(started out on Novell 3.12) but when I came here I had to start at the bottom again. Lots of places are like that. New guy starts at the bottom. Problem is that some people settle into a rut and never both to grow yet they still expect to move up the ladder.

 

[MechJinx]

For the positions advertised, the salaries seem low.

 

[shazbot]

Originally posted by: austin316
in IT, do you have a chance to move up and get into a management level position?

I'm gonna graduate next year with a double major MIS/Finance. What would be the more lucrative field? I enjoy both equally.

also, if I started in IT, worked a couple of year, could I go to get my MBA specialization in something other than IT, say Inverstment banking?

I graduated in may with the exact same 2 degrees. Got a job doing IT Consulting. Haven't started yet, but I'm probably gona work a few years, and then getting a mba or maybe masters. I went w/ IT as a 1st job 'cause most entry level finance positions suck and pay very poorly. But I do like both equally.

 

[Shockwave]

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: Shockwave

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: edro13
No, you don't move up in IT unless you learn something new. If you wanna move up, you need to get into finance or business... Good Luck (I am stuck in IT )

Not true...I started out on desktop here in late 1997, moved to the server engineering group in early 2001, since June of 2003 I have been managing the server engineering group and the network engineering group here.

True, because you learned something new, you moved up. You've been there 5 YEARS, of course you should have learned something new and moved up by then.

7 years this October.

True I moved up because I took the initiative to grow my skills environment. However before I came here I had been a server tech(started out on Novell 3.12) but when I came here I had to start at the bottom again. Lots of places are like that. New guy starts at the bottom. Problem is that some people settle into a rut and never both to grow yet they still expect to move up the ladder.

A Novell guy!! :beer: :beer:

 

[toy4x4]

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: Shockwave

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: edro13
No, you don't move up in IT unless you learn something new. If you wanna move up, you need to get into finance or business... Good Luck (I am stuck in IT )

Not true...I started out on desktop here in late 1997, moved to the server engineering group in early 2001, since June of 2003 I have been managing the server engineering group and the network engineering group here.

True, because you learned something new, you moved up. You've been there 5 YEARS, of course you should have learned something new and moved up by then.

7 years this October.

True I moved up because I took the initiative to grow my skills environment. However before I came here I had been a server tech(started out on Novell 3.12) but when I came here I had to start at the bottom again. Lots of places are like that. New guy starts at the bottom. Problem is that some people settle into a rut and never both to grow yet they still expect to move up the ladder.

Got 17 years under my belt here. Went from Wiltel to WISC to Wiltel to WorldCom, etc, etc ,etc

Do I know you?

 

[Rumpltzer]

Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Those salaries do seem quite low. Here in San Jose, CA, that would be poverty-level.

My ex-gf has a PhD in chemical engineering. She makes >$80K a year out of school and qualified for living assistance in San Jose.

 

[cchen]

Originally posted by: austin316
in IT, do you have a chance to move up and get into a management level position?

I'm gonna graduate next year with a double major MIS/Finance. What would be the more lucrative field? I enjoy both equally.

also, if I started in IT, worked a couple of year, could I go to get my MBA specialization in something other than IT, say Inverstment banking?

wth are you talking about? there's no mba specialization in "investment banking"
if you're an IT manager, why would you want to learn about investment banking, unless you're doing IT at an investment bank. but of course that wouldn't be the case since the IT ppl that work at an investment bank already have some sense of finance

so again, wth are you talking about

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: Shockwave

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: Shockwave

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: edro13
No, you don't move up in IT unless you learn something new. If you wanna move up, you need to get into finance or business... Good Luck (I am stuck in IT )

Not true...I started out on desktop here in late 1997, moved to the server engineering group in early 2001, since June of 2003 I have been managing the server engineering group and the network engineering group here.

True, because you learned something new, you moved up. You've been there 5 YEARS, of course you should have learned something new and moved up by then.

7 years this October.

True I moved up because I took the initiative to grow my skills environment. However before I came here I had been a server tech(started out on Novell 3.12) but when I came here I had to start at the bottom again. Lots of places are like that. New guy starts at the bottom. Problem is that some people settle into a rut and never both to grow yet they still expect to move up the ladder.

A Novell guy!! :beer: :beer:

That's how I started out. Ahhh....those were the days. Networking a bunch of DOS machines, keeping the printers from just disappearing into the ether at times, and running OS/2 on my personal system. I laugh at people now that complain about Windows being difficult to administrate. It's shocking how few of the new so called hot shot techs I interview have no clue how to do anything from a command prompt.

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: toy4x4

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: Shockwave

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: edro13
No, you don't move up in IT unless you learn something new. If you wanna move up, you need to get into finance or business... Good Luck (I am stuck in IT )

Not true...I started out on desktop here in late 1997, moved to the server engineering group in early 2001, since June of 2003 I have been managing the server engineering group and the network engineering group here.

True, because you learned something new, you moved up. You've been there 5 YEARS, of course you should have learned something new and moved up by then.

7 years this October.

True I moved up because I took the initiative to grow my skills environment. However before I came here I had been a server tech(started out on Novell 3.12) but when I came here I had to start at the bottom again. Lots of places are like that. New guy starts at the bottom. Problem is that some people settle into a rut and never both to grow yet they still expect to move up the ladder.

Got 17 years under my belt here. Went from Wiltel to WISC to Wiltel to WorldCom, etc, etc ,etc

Do I know you?

Don't know many people from over at the whole WILTEL/WorldCom/whatever they are these days. Did you manage to survive all the changes untouched?

 

[austin316]

Originally posted by: cchen

Originally posted by: austin316
in IT, do you have a chance to move up and get into a management level position?

I'm gonna graduate next year with a double major MIS/Finance. What would be the more lucrative field? I enjoy both equally.

also, if I started in IT, worked a couple of year, could I go to get my MBA specialization in something other than IT, say Inverstment banking?

wth are you talking about? there's no mba specialization in "investment banking"
if you're an IT manager, why would you want to learn about investment banking, unless you're doing IT at an investment bank. but of course that wouldn't be the case since the IT ppl that work at an investment bank already have some sense of finance

so again, wth are you talking about

I guess I didn't mean specialization. I was looking through businessweek.com/bschools and when students talked about their experience, there was a title after them such as operations or investment banking. I thought maybe you could specialize in an area. further, what I meant was, if I work in IT for five years, then get an mba, will the only doors that are possibly open for me are management IT positions, or could I change directions and go finance?

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: austin316

Originally posted by: cchen

Originally posted by: austin316
in IT, do you have a chance to move up and get into a management level position?

I'm gonna graduate next year with a double major MIS/Finance. What would be the more lucrative field? I enjoy both equally.

also, if I started in IT, worked a couple of year, could I go to get my MBA specialization in something other than IT, say Inverstment banking?

wth are you talking about? there's no mba specialization in "investment banking"
if you're an IT manager, why would you want to learn about investment banking, unless you're doing IT at an investment bank. but of course that wouldn't be the case since the IT ppl that work at an investment bank already have some sense of finance

so again, wth are you talking about

I guess I didn't mean specialization. I was looking through businessweek.com/bschools and when students talked about their experience, there was a title after them such as operations or investment banking. I thought maybe you could specialize in an area. further, what I meant was, if I work in IT for five years, then get an mba, will the only doors that are possibly open for me are management IT positions, or could I change directions and go finance?

The last thing the world needs is another MBA. I see so many of them who are:

Clueless
Arrogant
Think the world owes them everything
Couldn't manage their way out of a wet paper bag
Think that the letters MBA after their name means everyone should bow down to them

Honestly the MBA hs become a private joke around our office....we have been looking for some project management types and all these clueless newly graduated MBA's come parading into the interviews and proceed to make asses of themselves. It's pretty funny actually....

 

[her209]

IT Professionals need a union.

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: her209
IT Professionals need a union.

Why so we can price ourselves out of a job and send them to India?