it should be mandatory that all cars have the 'auto brake if crash is imminent' tech

[ConstipatedVigilante]

So you drive a car with no power steering, traction control, and abs?

Oh, there are abs. My abs just push the other cars out of the way.

 

[Freshgeardude]

i like the idea. would have to work where the brakes would be applied at very close to "point of no return" (after this point, brakes wont stop you from hitting the other car) and probably some beeping, so if your attention is gotten you could still swirve

 

[Ruptga]

i disagree. i would rather have control of the vehicle in case i can swerve out of the way or somehow turn the vehicle to minimize damage.

also, this technology would have to function at 100% constantly or it could easily become fatal (eg - random braking on highway).

It would not, it would only have to be (at the bottom line) better than unassisted driving. If this thing actually works and saves 1000 people per year, but failures in the system cause 300 deaths per year, we have still saved 700 people in that year.

The world is not "safe," and it will never be "safe;" all that is necessary is that what we have next be better than what we have now.

 

[Raduque]

So you drive a car with no power steering, traction control, and abs?

Hell, if I still had my Cutlass, I'd be driving a car with no DISC BRAKES. (No power steering, ABS, traction control or power brakes, either!)

My truck doesn't even have ABS on the front wheels - only the rears, due to the weight balance.

Edit: My old Accord dialed back the power steering as you sped up. At over 50mph, power steering was completely disabled. It was called "Power assisted steering".

 

[EarthwormJim]

It would not, it would only have to be (at the bottom line) better than unassisted driving. If this thing actually works and saves 1000 people per year, but failures in the system cause 300 deaths per year, we have still saved 700 people in that year.

The world is not "safe," and it will never be "safe;" all that is necessary is that what we have next be better than what we have now.

It's harder to prove if you actually saved those 1000 people than if you killed 300.

Braking is not always the most ideal course of action either.

 

[pcnerd37]

That is just what I want, another system in my car that is bound to malfunction for no reason other than so I can take my car to the dealership for them to "fix" it and charge me a crap ton of money.

 

[sandorski]

This would destroy the $Multi-Billion Demolition Derby Industry!! C4C was a Major Blow, this would be its' deathknell!!

Commie!

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

i like the idea. would have to work where the brakes would be applied at very close to "point of no return" (after this point, brakes wont stop you from hitting the other car) and probably some beeping, so if your attention is gotten you could still swirve

i believe that's how these systems work.
first it notifies you with a beep, then it will start to apply braking if you have not done so yourself.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

That is just what I want, another system in my car that is bound to malfunction for no reason other than so I can take my car to the dealership for them to "fix" it and charge me a crap ton of money.

do you also hate airbags?

 

[mugs]

wouldnt the guy behind's system activate too anyway?

No because the guy behind you is driving his 1992 Honda Accord that is still on the road with 260k miles.

 

[sandorski]

No because the guy behind you is driving his 1992 Honda Accord that is still on the road with 260k miles.

If your vehicle was imminently going to Crash into the vehicle in front, it wouldn't matter either way whether the vehicle behind you had an automated system or not.

 

[Freshgeardude]

If your vehicle was imminently going to Crash into the vehicle in front, it wouldn't matter either way whether the vehicle behind you had an automated system or not.

ontop of the fact that the person behind you shouldnt be riding your bumper

 

[dguy6789]

This sounds like a reasonable idea. Like it or not, most people are horrible drivers and could use all the help they can get. Most people are too stupid to be able to drive a car without help.

 

[nerp]

Traction control is an automated system that makes people think they're good at handling their car when in reality they'd lose control on wet or icy roads the way they drive.

 

[Imp]

Wouldn't mind it. I go 'of shit' often enough creeping in bumper to bumper traffic.

It may be asking for people to start setting the cruise control, and stare out the window while looking back every so often to keep it straight.

 

[JS80]

(savings in insurance + savings in reduced accidents + $ value of lives saved) - cost - subsidy/tax for people who can't afford > freedom premium

 

[manowar821]

I don't use ABS, airbags, traction control, auto anything. I'm far more trustworthy than some goddamn computer. But that's just me, having years of racing experience and a sharp, attentive eye. Never crashed on a public road, or even come close to causing one. I've gotten myself out of hairy situations plenty of times, though, caused by some other stupid asshole.

No for me, and no for anyone else except as maybe an option. ABSOLUTELY "FUCK YOU" to any kind of forced safety system. I don't think that people feeling comfortable with being even LESS FUCKING ATTENTIVE would give me a heightened sense of security on the road. Plus, if they do something REALLY stupid, they could/should loose their privilege to drive.

 

[arcenite]

Traction control is an automated system that makes people think they're good at handling their car when in reality they'd lose control on wet or icy roads the way they drive.

Have you ever driven a car with traction control? It doesn't prevent you from losing control.

 

[ktehmok]

I drove for twenty years without airbags, ABS, traction control, power steering or any of that other bullshit. And I didn't get into any accidents. Why? Because I fucking paid attention to what was around me every second I was behind the wheel, I still do.

I have a modern vehicle now and it sucks ass. I would give it up for my old vehicle in a heartbeat. These safety features do not help, they only encourage idiot drivers to be even bigger idiots. And the bad thing is, it keeps them alive when natural selection should have removed them.

 

[nerp]

Have you ever driven a car with traction control? It doesn't prevent you from losing control.

Yes. It doesn't prevent you from losing control. But it makes a lot of people overestimate their ability to handle a performance car.