It's a pretty sad world we live in now. Twitter is attacking John Wayne

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Aikouka

Lifer
Nov 27, 2001
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There is good reason for that control, and it is unplanned pregnancies.
I think that goes back to a term that I used before... heavy handed... and arguably unfair. I mean... isn't it saying that if you don't exert the utmost level of control over your daughter, then she's going to likely have a child out of wedlock? There are two things that come to mind here...

1. I would expect excessive amounts of control to be related to rebellion from teens. As kids grow up, they transition from a sort of mimic phase to this phase of self-exploration, which is when they really form their own identity. Of course, when you combine this with the other changes of puberty, it's where kids often become the moody, self-absorbed brats that us old fogies often complain about. But the idea is that with a teen/young adult's strong focus on self (individualism), trying to shelter them would likely cause more rebellion. (Obviously, not all kids are the same, so this will vary quite a bit.)

2. Ultimately, isn't it all about trust? It's the idea is that you can raise your child well enough to make good decisions in life. Speaking of that, I think one of the issues is that young adults often don't understand the repercussions of such actions. Now, I'm not talking about the meme "how is babby formed?", but what having a child really means in the long term. However, I'd argue that young adults tend to focus more on the here and now rather than tomorrow let alone five years from now. On the flip side, even if you attempt to scare teens to try to keep them out of each other's pants, it isn't always going to work. So, it's important to stress that if you're going to make that potentially life-altering choice, be safe about it.

Ultimately, I feel like your remarks (even the ones I didn't quote) are generalizing a bit too much and maybe expecting the worst out of people. Do people end up like you say? Sure, I don't doubt it one bit, but let's hope that we can at least push a sense of responsibility and understanding onto kids.
Why do you think so many minortiies kill each other?
Honestly, this is a whoooooooooole other topic that's a big ol' can of worms. However, I don't think it's nearly as clear-cut as you think.
 

destrekor

Lifer
Nov 18, 2005
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You do not have to be 100 years old to see a changing of the generations. I am 51 years old and have seen a LOT of change since the 1970s, 1980s, 1990s and today.

There was once a time when we said, "We do not do business with communist", and now China is our largest trading partner.

The change in womens ideology has probably the most profound. Rather than being the foundation of a family, morals, values... women put themselves and their careers first.

There was a time when families stayed together through thick and thin. Now, something like 80% of divorces are filed by women.

There was once a time when young men wanted a family and children, Now I see young men afraid to get married, and have children because of the divorce, alimony, and child support laws.
What I meant was sickness, cancer, hard financial times.... etc.

"Divorce rates shot up because women were given far more liberty to make their own choices rather than be under the oppressive yokes of their family."

Please explain exactly what an "opprseive yoke" is, and why women feel the need to break apart families. There is more at stake than a woman or husband feeling opposed.

Women have an instinct to move up the social ladder, a lot of them do that by leaving one husband and marrying another.

Here is an example - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/...e-I-thought-I-better-Now-Im-childless-42.html

She thought she could do better, divorced her husband, now she is alone.

I think it was Vice who did a documentary about there being a surplus of middle aged women in China. They were successful business women who refused to marry down. Which means they would not marry a man who makes less money than she did. While on the flip side, men are more willing than women to marry down.

It has been shown women are short term emotional thinkers. They think they can do better, divorce thei9r husbands, then realize they screwed up.
There is good reason for that control, and it is unplanned pregnancies.

It is critical to the future of the nation for women (of all races) to pick good stable, productive men to be fathers to her children. Rather than doing that, young girls will favor the strong, tall, violent.... men. Then, the women gets upset when a man who likes to fight beats the crap out of her. From there the woman and children enter the welfare system where they will probably spend the rest of their lives.

Young women today are being taught, "My body my choice", but not when the rest of society pays for her mistakes. Why do you think so many of todays young children en up living with the grandparents? Or even middle aged children living with their parents? There is an epidemic of three generations living in the same home.

Why do you think so many minortiies kill each other? What do we expect to happen when children are raised in fatherless homes, or rasied by violent fathers?

TLDR

Fathers try to teach young ladys about picking a husband.
Young lady bolts from parents and gets knocked up
From there, they either move back in with mom and dad, or enter the welfare system.



 
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FerrelGeek

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Jan 22, 2009
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We must immediately remaster every John Wayne move and digitally edit him out. Then we must confiscate and destroy all original content. No other course of action is acceptable.

Elvis impersonators - you're next.
 

pmv

Lifer
May 30, 2008
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Meh, having looked to see what this is about it just makes me baffled anew at young people.

Who didn't already know John Wayne was extremely right-wing? Everyone I knew when he was still alive disliked him for that back then. Still not really that relevant to whether you like his movies or not. Not really sure what this row is about.
 

Regs

Lifer
Aug 9, 2002
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Best get used to it. There is dirt on everyone somewhere and social media digs it up and talks about it. Information travels fast.
 
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