You cannot somewhat submit something. You either submit it, or, you don't. This is what I was talking about earlier. You've said you're an American in another thread, yet you talk (or at least write here)...very very strangely for an American.
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As maybe chucky2 gets to the heart of this thread, by maybe asking what is an American, what is a German, what is a Japanese, what is an Israeli. and what is an Arab? As if its something immutably hard wired into their genetic national culture and never never never subject to change?
When Human history teaches exactly the opposite lesson. That change is always inevitable. Pardon me, chucky2, when I did not join the set of American cheer leaders during the Vietnam war. Nor did I back the phony baloney reasoning behind the our war in Afghanistan, or the GWB phony sale man's reasons to invade Iraq in 2003. Maybe I was in a huge American minority at the time, and even more importantly I could have been proven wrong, if American leaders had been even semi-competent in understanding winning the peace involves helping make the peoples of an occupied nation lives better. As instead the USA has been recently been stuck on stupid, by thinking we can set up a unpopular puppet government. Nor in the broader sweep of human history, as might is right never worked long for any government. Or we can also talk about Russia, Germany, and Japan, post WW1. Who saw their chances to advance as nations. As Germany and Japan did it first. And after a decade or so Might makes right, the governments of Germany and Japan were wildly popular with their own people. But when the tide of war shifted, in only the last 2 years of a decade or better of unbroken successes, it was too late for either all the national cheer leading in the world, when they were on the wrong side of history. Or we could talk about the Soviet Union, our ally in WW2, becoming the post WW2 axis of evil during the next 45 years cold war. Ultimately won by not firing a shot, because a capitalist economy proved superior to a communistic economy, despite all the communistic cheer leading to the contrary. As I sadly observe, the America I love is also on the wrong side of history and our economy is going down the toilet as a result of being on the wrong side of history. As the clear lesson of history is that the nation that refuses to compromise and demands it all, ends up totally losing in the end. As smarter nations take advantages of changes.
Normally Israel would barely hit the US radar screen as the most hated nation in a random region. But when Israel happens to be located in the mid-east, the most important oil artery in the world, the degree of difficulty and US stupidity rises exponentially. Not only for the USA but for Israel too. And when any possibly future for an Israeli long term future well may well involve on Israel supporting a two State solution. Otherwise any long term Israeli future looks rather grim. Especially when the recent UN general assembly vote totally isolated both Israel and the USA as clearly on the wrong side of history.
But chucky2, it ain't over until the fat lady sings, and I want to envision better a better Israeli government that supports a 2 State solution, than can then transform Israel to a regional neighbor that is an asset rather than a total enemy to its neighbors in the mid-east.
And then you, chucky2, arrogantly asks me to submit a concrete prediction, when I see only a somewhat hopeful Israeli Election result that may or may not advance peace in the mid-east.
As for EK, who sees only failed predictions on my part, when I say the current Israeli strategy as unsustainable. As I can only say to EK, he has to be the biggest fool on this forum to maintain Israel is in a better position than it was before. As the present government of Israel has been hemorrhaging world support at an unprecedented and accelerating rate.