It's official(again), Trump is a damned liar on Obama wiretap accusation

[jackstar7]

Obama wouldn't do it because he doesn't want to be open to discovery, not because he's too good of a person.

If he went after Trump like this, the literal millions of dollars that would flow into taking down Obama to continue the trashing of his legacy... I don't know that we'd ever see the bottom of that horrifying well.

 

[HomerJS]

Obama seems to have a reasonably credible defamation case against Trump, which is pretty funny considering how often Trump rants about suing other people.

I'm very confident Obama wouldn't pursue it because frankly tangling with Trump is beneath him but it would lead to an amusing legal outcome.

Formally apologizing to Obama will be way more painful to Trump the a lawsuit. Make him do it on Fox News Sunday live and the text must be approved in advance.

 

[trenchfoot]

Defending Trump's antics is like walking through a minefield where the mines are sown an inch apart. But maybe that's the reason why his defenders have had to adopt a fatalistic sense of duty him. They all know they're going to trigger one of those mines with every step they take, so eh, may as well take the big hurt for the team and demand/receive double/triple overtime compensation. Those suicidal fuckers must definitely get hazard pay on top of whatever loose change gets thrown at them.

It seems Trump's highest priority for the talent he demands from his lackeys is that of being a whipping boy and having the ability to cover his ass with lies and other such deceptive measures with a straight face. That would explain a lot toward why Trump surrounds himself with insufferable sycophants and curiously illogical staff placements.

 

[fskimospy]

Formally apologizing to Obama will be way more painful to Trump the a lawsuit. Make him do it on Fox News Sunday live and the text must be approved in advance.

Yeah but that will never happen in a million years.

 

[HomerJS]

Yeah but that will never happen in a million years.

The Congress can immediately issue a censure. Depending on location false accusation of a felony is a felony itself. Possible impeachment charge.

 

[jackstar7]

(R) Tom Cole just said Obama is owed an apology if no compelling evidence can be produced.

So that's something.

 

[fskimospy]

The Congress can immediately issue a censure. Depending on location false accusation of a felony is a felony itself. Possible impeachment charge.

He's not getting censured or impeached over a tweet.

 

[woolfe9998]

Obama seems to have a reasonably credible defamation case against Trump, which is pretty funny considering how often Trump rants about suing other people.

I'm very confident Obama wouldn't pursue it because frankly tangling with Trump is beneath him but it would lead to an amusing legal outcome.

I think if Trump doesn't apologize, Obama should sue him and donate the proceeds to Planned Parenthood and/or other worthy programs that Trump plans to cut. It will embarrass Trump if he has to cave and settle it, and will make an important point. After years and years of defaming Obama, with the birtherism, being "the founder of ISIS," and now this, enough is enough. There are consequences for lying. I know Obama won't do it, but I really think he ought to. Now more than ever people need to get this message.

He's not getting censured or impeached over a tweet.

Exactly. He lies without consqeuence.

 

[fskimospy]

I think if Trump doesn't apologize, Obama should sue him and donate the proceeds to Planned Parenthood and/or other worthy programs that Trump plans to cut. It will embarrass Trump if he has to cave and settle it, and will make an important point. After years and years of defaming Obama, with the birtherism, being "the founder of ISIS," and now this, enough is enough. There are consequences for lying. I know Obama won't do it, but I really think he ought to. Now more than ever people need to get this message.

Exactly. He lies without consqeuence.

I agree that it sucks that Trump pays little to no price for continually stating obvious lies but I think Obama suing him would be counterproductive.

As of right now anyone with a functioning brain (ie: not everyone in this thread) knows that what Trump said was false and the condemnation of this stupidity is relatively bipartisan. If Obama sued him it would recast this as a struggle between the right's Hated Enemy and Trump, which means any previous conservative acceptance of his statement's falsity would probably be overwhelmed by defensive partisanship. (I'm sure the debate would become 'NOW OBAMA IS TRYING TO CRIMINALIZE DISAGREEMENT!') Instead of focusing on the fact that the president is a childish liar we would be caught up in a big partisan battle. While it might be satisfying to watch Obama force an apology or payment out of him I don't think it would be a long term win.

 

[woolfe9998]

I agree that it sucks that Trump pays little to no price for continually stating obvious lies but I think Obama suing him would be counterproductive.

As of right now anyone with a functioning brain (ie: not everyone in this thread) knows that what Trump said was false and the condemnation of this stupidity is relatively bipartisan. If Obama sued him it would recast this as a struggle between the right's Hated Enemy and Trump, which means any previous conservative acceptance of his statement's falsity would probably be overwhelmed by defensive partisanship. (I'm sure the debate would become 'NOW OBAMA IS TRYING TO CRIMINALIZE DISAGREEMENT!') Instead of focusing on the fact that the president is a childish liar we would be caught up in a big partisan battle. While it might be satisfying to watch Obama force an apology or payment out of him I don't think it would be a long term win.

Yes, everyone with a functioning brain knows that Trump is a liar, but such a lawsuit wouldn't be about proving he lied. It would be about showing that one cannot lie without consequence. This is a vital message in this day and age where dishonesty is being normalized, IMO. As for Trump's core supporters, who are probably about 2/3's of the people who voted for him or ~30% of the population, they are now so far off the deep end that I don't think it any longer matters what they say. They are literally a lunatic fringe.

I also think Obama should wait until early next year to file suit. That way, he stays classy by giving Trump a year without any active criticism from him. It will play best in an election year anyway.

 

[zinfamous]

I think if Trump doesn't apologize, Obama should sue him and donate the proceeds to Planned Parenthood and/or other worthy programs that Trump plans to cut. It will embarrass Trump if he has to cave and settle it, and will make an important point. After years and years of defaming Obama, with the birtherism, being "the founder of ISIS," and now this, enough is enough. There are consequences for lying. I know Obama won't do it, but I really think he ought to. Now more than ever people need to get this message.

I totally agree, but the precedent of a former POTUS suing a sitting "POTUS" is not something that this country needs to endure. Obama is smarter than that, but this is all part of Trump's game--he feels that he is above any kind of law or responsibility, and wedges himself into a position where calling him out on his filthy scummy lies is at least as much of a problem as the lies themselves.

 

[zinfamous]

And the US just formally apologized to the UK for falsely alleging part of his conspiracy theory.

It's amazing how some people never learn.

I think Fern should apologize to ATP&N.

 

[IGBT]

"Wire Tap" is a generic term to describe "information gathering".
Mark Levin PROVES Obama Wiretapping on President Donald Trump | Fox & Friends 3/5/17

All this info was gathered from Liberal newspapers and Liberal Publications.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91fNfGjZdM0

 

[zinfamous]

"Wire Tap" is a generic term to describe "information gathering".
Mark Levin PROVES Obama Wiretapping on President Donald Trump | Fox & Friends 3/5/17

All this info was gathered from Liberal newspapers and Liberal Publications.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91fNfGjZdM0

You are responsible for this fascist lunacy that is gripping our country. You and your people should go fuck off.

 

[HomerJS]

His lying will eventually cause serious harm? Should nothing be done until then?

 

[woolfe9998]

"Wire Tap" is a generic term to describe "information gathering".
Mark Levin PROVES Obama Wiretapping on President Donald Trump | Fox & Friends 3/5/17

All this info was gathered from Liberal newspapers and Liberal Publications.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91fNfGjZdM0

Like I said above, lunatic fringe.

 

[HomerJS]

"Wire Tap" is a generic term to describe "information gathering".
Mark Levin PROVES Obama Wiretapping on President Donald Trump | Fox & Friends 3/5/17

All this info was gathered from Liberal newspapers and Liberal Publications.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91fNfGjZdM0

Except this... One of Trump's tweets said Obama "tapped my phone" not wiretap as in general surveillance.

You posted a FAIL

 

[sdifox]

"Wire Tap" is a generic term to describe "information gathering".
Mark Levin PROVES Obama Wiretapping on President Donald Trump | Fox & Friends 3/5/17

All this info was gathered from Liberal newspapers and Liberal Publications.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91fNfGjZdM0

You know you misspelled LGBT right?

 

[compcons]

He didn't lie if he thinks it's true, and many of the people calling him a liar also acknowledge that he "saw something on fox news and went with it." Do words mean anything to the regressive left? Has homer ever made a thread without a faulty title? Something like 70% of thread titles are poorly worded here. Bigots.

Regardless of what side of the political spectrum you are on, this is a ridiculous statement. It really does shed some light on why people will let something go when clearly it contradcts FACTS.

So Obama saying "You can keep your doctor" wasn't a lie either then? I am pretty certain he truly believed that too.

"Jerry, just remember. It's not a lie... if you believe it..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn_PSJsl0LQ

 

[fskimospy]

Yes, everyone with a functioning brain knows that Trump is a liar, but such a lawsuit wouldn't be about proving he lied. It would be about showing that one cannot lie without consequence. This is a vital message in this day and age where dishonesty is being normalized, IMO. As for Trump's core supporters, who are probably about 2/3's of the people who voted for him or ~30% of the population, they are now so far off the deep end that I don't think it any longer matters what they say. They are literally a lunatic fringe.

I think the ability to convince anyone to change their mind is very small, the primary thing that matters is motivation. As Trump continues to flail my bet is that his supporters will become more and more demoralized and less likely to show up to vote in 2018. Stoking a partisan war over a lawsuit would be a good way to reignite their partisan fervor, which is why I think it's not a good idea. I agree there's no reaching most of those people, but I don't think forcing Trump to accept consequences for his lies will change that.

I also think Obama should wait until early next year to file suit. That way, he stays classy by giving Trump a year without any active criticism from him. It will play best in an election year anyway.

If things keep going the way they are the last thing we will want next year is a distraction from the radical ideology and total incompetence coming from Trump.

 

[mxnerd]

"Wire Tap" is a generic term to describe "information gathering".
Mark Levin PROVES Obama Wiretapping on President Donald Trump | Fox & Friends 3/5/17

All this info was gathered from Liberal newspapers and Liberal Publications.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91fNfGjZdM0

Hahaha, so what you are saying is that House Intelligence Committee was lying and tried to cover up for Obama?

 

[ivwshane]

He didn't lie if he thinks it's true, and many of the people calling him a liar also acknowledge that he "saw something on fox news and went with it." Do words mean anything to the regressive left? Has homer ever made a thread without a faulty title? Something like 70% of thread titles are poorly worded here. Bigots.

There it is folks! Its not a lie if trump believes it. That there, in a nut shell, is the philosophy of the right.

God damn these people are idiots and they are lead and represented by the biggest moron of them all.

President trump is the taj_imported Justoh boomerang pokerguy texashiker IGBT docsavagefan michael1980 of presidents!

 

[VRAMdemon]

"Wire Tap" is a generic term to describe "information gathering".
Mark Levin PROVES Obama Wiretapping on President Donald Trump | Fox & Friends 3/5/17

All this info was gathered from Liberal newspapers and Liberal Publications.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91fNfGjZdM0

"Many people" are "saying" that Obama, in conjunction with the "Deep State", moved the top secret location of the 1920's Style "Death Rays", without notifying the current "administration".

"They" are also "saying" it is vital Mark Levin and Sean Hannity don't find out.

 

[brycejones]

"Wire Tap" is a generic term to describe "information gathering".
Mark Levin PROVES Obama Wiretapping on President Donald Trump | Fox & Friends 3/5/17

All this info was gathered from Liberal newspapers and Liberal Publications.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91fNfGjZdM0

Where is that Igbt enters the thread pic?

 

[brycejones]

President trump is the taj_imported Justoh boomerang pokerguy texashiker IGBT docsavagefan michael1980 of presidents!

You left out incorruptible which is probably the most appropriate.