It's official, BlackBoxVoting is going public with fraud claims

[Pliablemoose]

Originally posted by: conjur
http://forums.anandtech.com/me...1347704&arctab=arc

And the old thread proves she was a loon before the 04 election?

I mean seriously, I emailed my representatives asking for a paper trail of all votes several days ago, it's unlikely that the vote was hacked enough to overturn the election.

Logially, Florida elected Jeb with a huge margin in 02', is it that unlikely that his brother would pick up Florida in 04'?

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
We'd offer you a middle finger but that would get us banned

They need to offer it as both an Avatar and as an Emoticon.

Just repost the video of Bush giving the finger.

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose

Originally posted by: conjur
http://forums.anandtech.com/me...1347704&arctab=arc

And the old thread proves she was a loon before the 04 election?

I mean seriously, I emailed my representatives asking for a paper trail of all votes several days ago, it's unlikely that the vote was hacked enough to overturn the election.

Logially, Florida elected Jeb with a huge margin in 02', is it that unlikely that his brother would pick up Florida in 04'?

Considering that there is huge amounts of evidence stating that Jebby messed with the Democratic primary and elected McBride, because he didn't want to face Reno. Reno, by many experts, was to be an extremely tough challenge for Jebby.

 

[Pliablemoose]

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose

Originally posted by: conjur
http://forums.anandtech.com/me...1347704&arctab=arc

And the old thread proves she was a loon before the 04 election?

I mean seriously, I emailed my representatives asking for a paper trail of all votes several days ago, it's unlikely that the vote was hacked enough to overturn the election.

Logially, Florida elected Jeb with a huge margin in 02', is it that unlikely that his brother would pick up Florida in 04'?

Considering that there is huge amounts of evidence stating that Jebby messed with the Democratic primary and elected McBride, because he didn't want to face Reno. Reno, by many experts, was to be an extremely tough challenge for Jebby.

Sorry, I was unaware of the depth of the Bush conspiracy.

I can't see Reno as particularly popular with the latino vote in Florida myself. Which demographic was she supposed to appeal to?

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose

Originally posted by: conjur
http://forums.anandtech.com/me...1347704&arctab=arc

And the old thread proves she was a loon before the 04 election?

No, it proves she was right for us to be worried about electronic voting (black box voting). Many of these systems offer no paper trail and the source code is unable to be audited or reviewed.

I mean seriously, I emailed my representatives asking for a paper trail of all votes several days ago, it's unlikely that the vote was hacked enough to overturn the election.

With what paper trail? I'm assuming you didn't vote via e-voting.

Logially, Florida elected Jeb with a huge margin in 02', is it that unlikely that his brother would pick up Florida in 04'?

Governors are not Presidents and vice versa.

 

[Pliablemoose]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose

Originally posted by: conjur
http://forums.anandtech.com/me...1347704&arctab=arc

And the old thread proves she was a loon before the 04 election?

No, it proves she was right for us to be worried about electronic voting (black box voting). Many of these systems offer no paper trail and the source code is unable to be audited or reviewed.

I mean seriously, I emailed my representatives asking for a paper trail of all votes several days ago, it's unlikely that the vote was hacked enough to overturn the election.

With what paper trail? I'm assuming you didn't vote via e-voting.

Logially, Florida elected Jeb with a huge margin in 02', is it that unlikely that his brother would pick up Florida in 04'?

Governors are not Presidents and vice versa.

Never mind, sigh...

Think I'll back away from the internet for a while...

 

[Isaiah]

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose

Free shipping...

Ah, just what I needed?no need to try to have fair elections anymore

 

[Pliablemoose]

Originally posted by: Isaiah

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose

Free shipping...

Ah, just what I needed?no need to try to have fair elections anymore

Seriously... I agree that there needs to be a paper trail, please contact your representative in congress & @ the state level.

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose

Originally posted by: Isaiah

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose

Free shipping...

Ah, just what I needed?no need to try to have fair elections anymore

Seriously... I agree that there needs to be a paper trail, please contact your representative in congress & @ the state level.

I doubt anyone from the "right" is even worried about fair elections.

 

[JoLLyRoGer]

Originally posted by: MDesigner

Originally posted by: GoPackGo

Originally posted by: Tiles2Tech

Originally posted by: jpeyton
This is good news. I had a gut feeling that this election would get a black eye from fraud, and I'm glad someone is doing something to uncover it.

Keep in mind now that you've asked for it, the numbers could come back against the party you voted for.

:roll:

Will there investigation also expose the democrats who gave people crack, money and other favors?

Please provide links to news articles or documentation on this crack bribery. I assume there is more than one instance, since you said "democrats."

Why don't you stop blowing your gas and put your links where your mouth is. You say you've got undisputable evidence that Bush stole the election? Let's see it, link it up. I want this hard proof that yout think you've dug up, and I REALLY care enough to see it.

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose

Originally posted by: Isaiah

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose

Free shipping...

Ah, just what I needed?no need to try to have fair elections anymore

Seriously... I agree that there needs to be a paper trail, please contact your representative in congress & @ the state level.

I doubt anyone from the "right" is even worried about fair elections.

Yep, we're all nutjob religious zealots. :disgust:

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose

Originally posted by: Isaiah

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose

Free shipping...

Ah, just what I needed?no need to try to have fair elections anymore

Seriously... I agree that there needs to be a paper trail, please contact your representative in congress & @ the state level.

I doubt anyone from the "right" is even worried about fair elections.

Yep, we're all nutjob religious zealots. :disgust:

Maybe not, but from all the resistance toward auditing (not neccessarily a recount) the 2004 election, the only conclusion is that the "right" likes unfair elections the way they are.

 

[chess9]

Conjur:

If these allegations are proven true and fraud is found to have been committed, I think you need to demand a very large box of cookies from PMoose, preferably with nuts.

-Robert

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: chess9
Conjur:

If these allegations are proven true and fraud is found to have been committed, I think you need to demand a very large box of cookies from PMoose, preferably with nuts.

-Robert

He'll have just laced them with Ex Lax instead of chocolate chips.

 

[Budarow]

Debates are ONLY worthwhile (educational and/or interesting) if the contents are worthwhile (educated and/or logical ideas are shared).

When a discussion/debate strays too far from the topic...it's usually due to 1 side not being able to logically support their argument (i.e., the debate subject is no longer being discussed because 1 side begins name calling or 1 side get hostile, etc.).

STOP WITH THE BS and nonsensical statements...if anyone stoops to STUPIDITY (i.e., they "debate" this issue by simply posting a "cookie", name calling, make illogical statements, etc.) DO NOT stoop to their level by recognizing their re-post.


PS...my statement is NOT about any 1 particular post.

 

[glugglug]

In Willacy County, TX, your vote counts twice: http://www.dfw.com/mld/startel...ews/state/10123432.htm

 

[Pliablemoose]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: chess9
Conjur:

If these allegations are proven true and fraud is found to have been committed, I think you need to demand a very large box of cookies from PMoose, preferably with nuts.

-Robert

He'll have just laced them with Ex Lax instead of chocolate chips.

Here's a post to bookmark.

If it's proven through the court system that the vote was hacked and the presidency is given to Kerry within the next 4 years, conjur has the following options:

1.) I'll personally deliver 10 cases of his choice of cookies (store bought) to him.

or

2.) I'll paypal him $1K.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: chess9
Conjur:

If these allegations are proven true and fraud is found to have been committed, I think you need to demand a very large box of cookies from PMoose, preferably with nuts.

-Robert

He'll have just laced them with Ex Lax instead of chocolate chips.

Here's a post to bookmark.

If it's proven through the court system that the vote was hacked and the presidency is given to Kerry within the next 4 years, conjur has the following options:

1.) I'll personally deliver 10 cases of his choice of cookies (store bought) to him.

or

2.) I'll paypal him $1K.

I don't think the election was rigged nor do I think there are enough problems in the vote to overturn the election. I just want to see a full audit so we can fix this sh*t for the next election. The world is laughing their asses off at us.

 

[irwincur]

Well it does seem odd that the CEO of Diebold guaranteed Bush Florida and Ohio... /shrug

Equally as odd as one of the richest men in the world (Soros) guaranteeing the election for Kerry, "at all costs". Which included setting up hundreds of thousands of duplicate and fraudulent registrations, trading favors and goods for votes, canvassing at election sites, and fighting to courts to rule against standing and well proven election law.


There is always something YOU PEOPLE will bitch about. In 2000, paper ballots were not good enough. So you asked for something better. Now, in 2004 computers are not good enough because they are too easy to mess with. In 2008 I am sure there will be another problem.

However, there is a common link here...

YOU ARE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT OFFERING THE SOLUTIONS. You bitch and whine, yet you NEVER offer an alternative solution. I suspect that is because you don't want anything other than an excuse year in and year out. If there was so much fraud in Ohio, I would expect that the Democrats would be willing to have a total recount in Pennsylvania - a state that in the end is much closer than Ohio. How about Wisconsin and New Hampshire too.

 

[glugglug]

Originally posted by: irwincur
If there was so much fraud in Ohio, I would expect that the Democrats would be willing to have a total recount in Pennsylvania - a state that in the end is much closer than Ohio. How about Wisconsin and New Hampshire too.

I encourage you to go ahead and get them recounted -- you'll only see Kerry pulling ahead in the popular vote when you do.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Originally posted by: ncircle
lmao at the death throes of the liberals!
bwahahahaha.
this wont change anything
deal with the reality of W for another 4+ years

That is the hard facts of the matter. The evidence needed to make this sound like anything but sour grapes would never be permitted to come to light even if by some wild stretch of the imagination it is actually true.

 

[Genx87]

So why are people afraid of finding out the truth about them? the full truth? If it turns out to be nothing, then it's nothing. But if it does turn out to be something, then it needs to be fixed, PERIOD.

The obvious reason for me is impartiality. With a site like this running it you cant gurantee it. So what will happen is distortions and half-truths become facts and we have to listen to nutjobs for the next 4 years yap yap about how the election was a fraud because their guy didnt win kk.

Time to move on. If there is a major flaw in the system then they need to fix it. Going on a witch hunt wont solve the issue.

 

[Citadel535]

I'm glad they're doing this. More people will realize that there were machines with 500-2000 votes for Kerry on them before the polls even opened making Bush's margin of winning even greater.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Genx87

So why are people afraid of finding out the truth about them? the full truth? If it turns out to be nothing, then it's nothing. But if it does turn out to be something, then it needs to be fixed, PERIOD.

The obvious reason for me is impartiality. With a site like this running it you cant gurantee it. So what will happen is distortions and half-truths become facts and we have to listen to nutjobs for the next 4 years yap yap about how the election was a fraud because their guy didnt win kk.

Time to move on. If there is a major flaw in the system then they need to fix it. Going on a witch hunt wont solve the issue.

A site like what? bbv.org? Got something against Bev Harris? Got something against the little person taking down an alleged corporate criminal?

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Originally posted by: ncircle
lmao at the death throes of the liberals!
bwahahahaha.
this wont change anything
deal with the reality of W for another 4+ years

That is the hard facts of the matter. The evidence needed to make this sound like anything but sour grapes would never be permitted to come to light even if by some wild stretch of the imagination it is actually true.

I think you quoted the wrong person there.

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: Citadel535
I'm glad they're doing this. More people will realize that there were machines with 500-2000 votes for Kerry on them before the polls even opened making Bush's margin of winning even greater.

All indications state the exact opposite, thus the resistance.