Its official! WAR is coming Sept. 18!

[Baltazar325]

Chosen or Marauder all the way.

That is unless my guild goes Order than I guess I'll play a Warrior Priest.

 

[Mem]

Originally posted by: pontifex
so speaking of classes and their roles, are we going to have another WoW on our hands where all the people want each class to perform a specific role or will it be ok to have a tank class specced in the DPS tree instead of the defense tree, etc?

Or even worse, will they force the hybrid classes into one role, like the druids, in WoW?

they = the other players, not necessarily Mythic.

I guess it depends on the situation,when you look at WAR with its PvE,PvP,RvR parts you can see role of some classes being slightly different especially when each class can branch off a bit depending on what the player chooses for their class skills etc..,I'm hoping the players are bit more mature then the average WoW players and let the classes/players do what they want or be more flexible for the most part (as long as the group etc are happy with the role they play),sure there's has to be some planning especially with RvR etc.. and some classes will play a more important role then others.

All speculation on my part but we shall see.

 

[VashHT]

Originally posted by: pontifex
so speaking of classes and their roles, are we going to have another WoW on our hands where all the people want each class to perform a specific role or will it be ok to have a tank class specced in the DPS tree instead of the defense tree, etc?

Or even worse, will they force the hybrid classes into one role, like the druids, in WoW?

they = the other players, not necessarily Mythic.

That was one thing I hated about WoW as well, the attitude of other players made having talent trees next to useless.

It's too early to tell if this will happen in WAR, but I don't think it will happen based on the fact that WAR revolves around RvR rather than PVE like WoW. In WoW the arenas and raiding were the 2 big areas where everyone wanted a certain build. Since WAR is mainly large scale PVP I don't think people will complain as long as you can contribute.

 

[Mem]

One question for those CB testers,can you speak with the opposing side or is it like WoW where you don't understand what they are saying,since I have friends going on both sides(or enemies depending how you look at it).

 

[Jschmuck2]

No, just like DAoC before it, there's no way to communicate with the opposing side. What good could possibly come from that?

 

[Mem]

Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
No, just like DAoC before it, there's no way to communicate with the opposing side. What good could possibly come from that?

I thought so,btw poll on classes here .

 

[pontifex]

any word on respeccing?

 

[pontifex]

been watching a bunch of beta videos tonight. the ironbreaker and shaman definitely seem like cool classes too.

 

[Jschmuck2]

I'll tell you this - Shamans will be on the business end of the nerf bat first.

 

[jackace]

ironbreakers seem to be noticeably better than the other tanks as well. Mainly because of the grudge mechanic being better and less restrictive than the black orc/swordmaster combo system and the chosen aura system.

 

[Xed]

If you're basing your thoughts just on the preview weekend remember that a lot of the unstoppable players were in rank 10 / renown rank 6 gear. It pretty much made them invincible against those without the gear.

To pontifex - you can respec mastery/renown etc

 

[pontifex]

one thing I don't like, and this happens in other mmos also, is that only certain races can be certain classes. I mean, I can see a few based on lore, like the White Lion, but not all.

I also dislike each race having it's own type of mount. I don't see why they can't make it so you can different mounts, within reason.

 

[Xed]

Mmo's evolve, and a lot of things are cut back/removed just to get the game out. Things you don't like could easily be fixed/changed (or made worse) =)

 

[Baltazar325]

Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
I'll tell you this - Shamans will be on the business end of the nerf bat first.

My Witch Hunter tore Shamans up. Maybe I was justp laying against bad ones. The little bit I played of one though, it seemed like a very fun class.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: ivan2

Originally posted by: rpkelly

Well, in DAoC, unbalanced pops really did screw up RvR. But, it was more fun, and a lot more action being the underdog. Also better RPs

do people start to RP after they get tired of being beaten =P

joking aside I do like a even fight. I miss the horde hunting days on mannoroth...

RP in daoc usually meant realm points. you got more realm points playing on a side that was the underdog, so your character would attain realm ranks more quickly.

 

[gizbug]

Should I replace my 8800gts 512 for a 4870 to run this game? Or is it not worth upgrading my video card.

 

[Jschmuck2]

Originally posted by: gizbug
Should I replace my 8800gts 512 for a 4870 to run this game? Or is it not worth upgrading my video card.

No.

 

[Mem]

Their European site is now available for open beta download here ,all European CE users etc..can now download the 12GB file,btw does not seem to work with Firefox properly so use IE7.

 

[Malladine]

Originally posted by: Xed
If you're basing your thoughts just on the preview weekend remember that a lot of the unstoppable players were in rank 10 / renown rank 6 gear. It pretty much made them invincible against those without the gear

uh, ...so would you say WAR is extremely gear-based then? I was under the impression it wasn't as bad as WoW in that respect.

 

[Xed]

The jump from the random junk you get to the gear I mentioned is nuts. Subsequent jumps aren't nearly as game changing so it's only an issue at very low levels. Each tier has power swings and things can be very different at 40 than they were at 10.

You also get 3 equipment slots you normally have nothing in (helm, shoulder, cloak) which make the power jump more pronounced.

My orc for instance went from 5-10% resistances and 25% or so armor mitigation to 60% armor mitigation and 55-60% resists and double the dps.

 

[Malladine]

Originally posted by: Xed
The jump from the random junk you get to the gear I mentioned is nuts. Subsequent jumps aren't nearly as game changing so it's only an issue at very low levels. Each tier has power swings and things can be very different at 40 than they were at 10.

You also get 3 equipment slots you normally have nothing in (helm, shoulder, cloak) which make the power jump more pronounced.

My orc for instance went from 5-10% resistances and 25% or so armor mitigation to 60% armor mitigation and 55-60% resists and double the dps.

Okay, interesting...
Helm/Shoulders/Cloak: at what levels do you find gear for those slots?

So end game the gear disparity isn't going to be anything like mid 60s blues vs 70 raid epics in WoW?

 

[Xed]

level 10 renown 6

Gear curve isn't supposed to be anywhere near as bad as WoW (thank god)

 

[Malladine]

level = rank right?

How many renown ranks are there btw?

And how many gear slots??

Awesome news on the gear curve.

 

[jackace]

80 renown ranks (pvp Levels) 40 ranks (levels)

I got my chosen to rank 14 renown rank 8 and bought that gear. I did very good in pvp and pve with that gear and it was fairly easy to get.

From my that point of view I found ironbreakers in similar gear to be slightly better at mitigating damage, and because of their grudge mechanic they put out a decent amount more damage than I did on my chosen. I have no idea if that's how it will work out at rank 40 but at rank 14 that was my experience.

 

[Jschmuck2]

Originally posted by: Malladine

Originally posted by: Xed
The jump from the random junk you get to the gear I mentioned is nuts. Subsequent jumps aren't nearly as game changing so it's only an issue at very low levels. Each tier has power swings and things can be very different at 40 than they were at 10.

You also get 3 equipment slots you normally have nothing in (helm, shoulder, cloak) which make the power jump more pronounced.

My orc for instance went from 5-10% resistances and 25% or so armor mitigation to 60% armor mitigation and 55-60% resists and double the dps.

Okay, interesting...
Helm/Shoulders/Cloak: at what levels do you find gear for those slots?

So end game the gear disparity isn't going to be anything like mid 60s blues vs 70 raid epics in WoW?

Here's the thing though - those people aren't even really supposed to have that gear in those RvR situations. There was a post over at WHA the other day from Mark Jacobs saying that it was a bug and would be fixed.