Its official! WAR is coming Sept. 18!

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: Jschmuck2

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
Wow, did mythic shoot your dog or something? Christ, relax.

Am I putting a cock block on your boner for this game or something? At worst I'm tempering expectations and at best clarifying misconceptions.

Thank you for bringing your brilliantly informed insight to this thread that was clearly crying out for your attention. To which world problem are you going to direct your gift to next? May I suggest Darfur.

If I knew how to resolve human rights violations due to political disarray and religious conflict, you bet I would. As it is, I happen to have devoted the vast bulk of my gaming time over the past 12 years to MMOs and, when a post in a MMO related topic comes up where I feel inclined to share my opinion, I might just do such a thing. It's kinda what message board forums are about. If that's too harsh a reality for your sensibilities then may I suggest you start a private chat room somewhere?

 

[Bateluer]

Its just a game guys, keep it civil.

Incidentally, have people started complaining about the pricing scheme yet? Even though its right in line with every other major MMO on the market, there's always a few that believe 15/month is too expensive.

 

[Lamont Burns]

Just early enough to try and get people suckered in before WoW's xpac. Sadly, it will still end up being unpolished and rushed b/c of said WoW xpac.

Unless the PvP/RvR system is well done, it's a niche at best but most likely will do worse than AoC imo.

 

[Beev]

Originally posted by: Lamont Burns
Just early enough to try and get people suckered in before WoW's xpac. Sadly, it will still end up being unpolished and rushed b/c of said WoW xpac.

Ex-fucking-actly.

They waited for Blizzard to give a release date, Blizzard said "this year between October and December" and now we have a September release for WAR. Pathetic.

 

[imaheadcase]

The only thing screwed up DAOC WAS toa and lack of actual RVR/PvP expansion packs like they should of did. I understand releasing pve expansion packs because nature of the business..but when your core game was built around rvr/pvp you can't screw it over and expect people not to get pissed in long run.

I loved everything about DAOC, except ToA.

 

[FluxCap]

Originally posted by: Beev

Originally posted by: Lamont Burns
Just early enough to try and get people suckered in before WoW's xpac. Sadly, it will still end up being unpolished and rushed b/c of said WoW xpac.

Ex-fucking-actly.

They waited for Blizzard to give a release date, Blizzard said "this year between October and December" and now we have a September release for WAR. Pathetic.

Yep, I am in the beta and I don't care about the NDA anymore since it will more than likely get lifted next week. This game is really going to struggle out of the gate. It needs at least another 6 months to be about 80% ready (which would make it on par with what could be considered a solid MMO launch). It needs a ton of polish and fixes that will have to come post release because they are rushing to beat the WoW expansion. Some of you say... "hey, that's normal!" well guess what? Most WoW defectors will quickly realize how bad it is and hop back to WoW.

 

[Beev]

I fully believe that WAR would be a great game if EA weren't forcing them to release it early.

 

[Lamont Burns]

What's crazy is if Blizzard is accurate about the 40% of AoC players already returning to WoW before expansion... WAR is going to be strangled into submission a mere 2-3 months post launch.

It must not be a financial or marketing option to wait until March of next year or something.... when everybody in WoW gets to 80 and notices it's all the same for the 3rd time.

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: FluxCap


This game is really going to struggle out of the gate. It needs at least another 6 months to be about 80% ready (which would make it on par with what could be considered a solid MMO launch). It needs a ton of polish and fixes that will have to come post release because they are rushing to beat the WoW expansion. Most WoW defectors will quickly realize how bad it is and hop back to WoW.

Then everyone will scorn the game based on how it was at launch such that very few will ever want to try it and the initial wave of players return to their previous MMO once they see what it is like at launch and never look back (Vanguard SOH situation). More money and another game down the drain

What is the deal with all of these failed MMOs lately? Publishers do not understand that if they ever hope to compete with WoW, they need a superior game that is as polished as LoTRO was (or better) at launch, otherwise the perception of their game will be crap and they will never see a solid return on investment.

 

[FluxCap]

I wish I knew the answer. I believe in WAR and it's ideas but it is going to be causing many headaches for a while. It has serious potential so my advice is to wait 2 months and see if they can patch most issues really fast.

 

[Genx87]

I am waiting until Feb\March of next year to try it.

 

[Joeydubbs]

Anybody know the system requirements? I got a P4 @2.6, nvidia 6800 and a couple gigs of RAM...

 

[FreshCrabLegs]

Originally posted by: Joeydubbs
Anybody know the system requirements? I got a P4 @2.6, nvidia 6800 and a couple gigs of RAM...

PC SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS

For Windows XP

· 2.5 GHz P4 (single core) processor or equivalent
· 1 Gigabyte RAM
· A 128 MB Video Card, with support for Pixel Shader 2.0
· At least 15 GB of hard drive space

For Windows VISTA

· 2.5 GHz P4 processor or equivalent
· 2 Gigabyte RAM
· A 128 MB Video Card, with support for Pixel Shader 2.0
· At least 15 GB of hard drive space

Supported Video Cards

ATI Radeon(TM) series

· 9500, 9600, 9800
· X300, X600, X700, X800, X850
· X1300, X1600, X1800, X1900, X1950
· 2400, 2600, 2900,
· 3650, 3850, 3870
· 4850, 4870

NVIDIA GeForce series

· FX 5900, FX 5950
· 6600, 6800,
· 7600, 7800, 7900, 7950
· 8400, 8500, 8600, 8800
· 9400, 9500, 9600, 9800
· GTX 260, GTX 280

Source

 

[Skott]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: Skott

Originally posted by: drebo
Looking at how badly Mythic screwed up DAoC, I'm not optimistic about this game.

Yeah and considering the last time they delayed WAR there were rumors that that Mythic was making it more WoW like because thats what the beta testers were demanding supposedly. Since I have been playing AoC I havent been following WAR so not sure whats being said or shown publicly. I'll try it though because it has RvR in it. I sure hope Mythic learned from their past DAoC mistakes.

RvR is a flawed system. It's artificial motivation for PvP and it doesn't hold up.

I disagree. The whole concept of RvR is a nice one. Granted poor execution of said concept can be flawed obviously but the concept itself is a good one IMO. Mythic was making some mistakes before TOA expansion but TOA was a major wrong step for them and they and the game suffered heavily for it. We'll see how they do it with WAR and if it works out good or bad.

 

[Mem]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

Originally posted by: FluxCap


This game is really going to struggle out of the gate. It needs at least another 6 months to be about 80% ready (which would make it on par with what could be considered a solid MMO launch). It needs a ton of polish and fixes that will have to come post release because they are rushing to beat the WoW expansion. Most WoW defectors will quickly realize how bad it is and hop back to WoW.

Then everyone will scorn the game based on how it was at launch such that very few will ever want to try it and the initial wave of players return to their previous MMO once they see what it is like at launch and never look back (Vanguard SOH situation). More money and another game down the drain

What is the deal with all of these failed MMOs lately? Publishers do not understand that if they ever hope to compete with WoW, they need a superior game that is as polished as LoTRO was (or better) at launch, otherwise the perception of their game will be crap and they will never see a solid return on investment.

Warhammer has had more testing time then Vanguard and user interest seems larger then what Vanguard was at launch,only thing giving me more headaches is what class to go with,I guess I'll try them all and see how they develop over time.

Warhammer hit or flop ?...well its hard to say at this time but I hope it does well,we really need some new decent MMORPGs.

For the record no way I'm going back to WoW ,thanks 6 months was enough.

 

[Pepsei]

good news, those of us who got collector's edition can get into closed beta first.

also, unlike AoC, you can download the client for free, and Early Access from pre-orders are FREE too!

link

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: drebo
Looking at how badly Mythic screwed up DAoC, I'm not optimistic about this game.

They've taken over UO too and are laying waste to the last remnants of that game.

That game was trash well before Mythic was gobbled up by EA. EA/Origin killed that game with stupid expansion after expansion. You want to talk about stupid design decisions. Origin and EA are kings of that. They released more half baked shit than all the other MMOG makers combined...

UO was the best MMO ever at its best, but its no where near its best and that is never going to change no matter who is put in charge of it.

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

Originally posted by: FluxCap


This game is really going to struggle out of the gate. It needs at least another 6 months to be about 80% ready (which would make it on par with what could be considered a solid MMO launch). It needs a ton of polish and fixes that will have to come post release because they are rushing to beat the WoW expansion. Most WoW defectors will quickly realize how bad it is and hop back to WoW.

Then everyone will scorn the game based on how it was at launch such that very few will ever want to try it and the initial wave of players return to their previous MMO once they see what it is like at launch and never look back (Vanguard SOH situation). More money and another game down the drain

What is the deal with all of these failed MMOs lately? Publishers do not understand that if they ever hope to compete with WoW, they need a superior game that is as polished as LoTRO was (or better) at launch, otherwise the perception of their game will be crap and they will never see a solid return on investment.

Failed? What is your definition of failure?

People need to get it through their thick skulls, you dont need millions of players to rake in profits.

People need to stop judging MMO success with Blizzard. Not everyone is Blizzard, and not everyone has cult like status in Korea.

There are only a handful of MMOs that were complete failures(the ones that got shut down), the rest are successful to varying degrees. As long as a game can sustain 250-500k subscribers it is successful in that it can easily turn a profit.

 

[blazerazor]

Woot!, been looking forward to this game! I hope it is balanced, the servers dont crash, and it is FUN. Seems to me that there needs to be more classes of characters, but that may just be me. Also dont like how hyped EA has it, with all the BONUS trinkets and crap. Its like they are following the magic formula, throw out some WAR flavor'd Magic the gathering cards, give a couple of milk bones for the dog, and include a useless art book and BINGO! you just spent a Benjamen and you STILL have to pay the dang month'ly charge.

Not to piss on the tread though, cause I have been watching and waiting for this one. I really like the witch hunter, fire mage and the troll hunter guys alot. Less cartoon'y-ness of WoW, it just seems to need beefy'r system specs, cause the graphics are more realistic, but just don't tick the gears on my clock the way the smoothness of WoW looks. I'll give it a whirl'y bird fly'n ride., if not for shittes, than for giggles.

BTW, how is this Monster running!??? Will it RUN ON A IMAC with a 256 ati 2600 radeon card (or will it run on a mac at ALL??)!
or is this thing a video card resource HOG! requiring 512meg card to run it. AND I CAN READ THE BOX SPECS, i wanna know what kind of system do I need to RUN it fine and RIGHT'LY. No hic-ups, no studders, no slide shows. If this sucks I'm going back to WoW.

 

[Onita]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: Skott

Originally posted by: drebo
Looking at how badly Mythic screwed up DAoC, I'm not optimistic about this game.

Yeah and considering the last time they delayed WAR there were rumors that that Mythic was making it more WoW like because thats what the beta testers were demanding supposedly. Since I have been playing AoC I havent been following WAR so not sure whats being said or shown publicly. I'll try it though because it has RvR in it. I sure hope Mythic learned from their past DAoC mistakes.

RvR is a flawed system. It's artificial motivation for PvP and it doesn't hold up.

Out of curiousity, what PvP system was better than DAoC's?

 

[Beev]

Originally posted by: Wreckem

Failed? What is your definition of failure?

People need to get it through their thick skulls, you dont need millions of players to rake in profits.

People need to stop judging MMO success with Blizzard. Not everyone is Blizzard, and not everyone has cult like status in Korea.

There are only a handful of MMOs that were complete failures(the ones that got shut down), the rest are successful to varying degrees. As long as a game can sustain 250-500k subscribers it is successful in that it can easily turn a profit.

FYI, Korea doesn't make up most of the WoW userbase. In fact, I'd like to see an MMO have more subscribers worldwide than WoW has in the US. Hasn't happened. When companies make MMO's, they WANT to beat WoW.

Vanguard is alive, Tabula Rasa is alive, SWG is alaive, and all three of those games are complete and utter failures.

 

[Schfifty Five]

I pre-ordered the collector's edition back in beg. of June and forgot about it. I remembered about it today and checked ebay and wow, I might be able to sell it for $300 =P

So tempting...

 

[Drift3r]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: dreadpiratedoug
But they set precedence. They ADMITTED they screwed those up (never seen that done in the industry)

Because nobody has ever screwed up so big so many times.

You obviously haven't played AoC, Vanguard, Tabula Rasa, Auto Assault, did not witness the CU and NGE nerfs done to SWG or read about Dark and Light.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: Lamont Burns
Just early enough to try and get people suckered in before WoW's xpac. Sadly, it will still end up being unpolished and rushed b/c of said WoW xpac.

.

exactly, pretty sure Wrath will be a November Release or an Xmass release now, they said it was Def gonna be Q4 2008, and everyone figured they were waiting on what WAR was doing, however the next WoW Xpac still needs some work

 

[Pepsei]

thanks to collector's editon preorder box from best buy, i'm in closed beta today too... i guess best buy is good for something...