It's OK to be FAT (?)

[Philippine Mango]

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
It's OK to be GAY?
genetic condition... people can't help it... so it's ok?

So I've been seeing that around lately... people arguing for genetics and other reasons that cause gayness and basically there's nothing they can do about it. It's not their fault, so it's ok to be gay.

Where the hell did this stuff come from ? Is this the new wave of no-reponsibility arguments (with Hollywood is making me gay lawsuits), or just a an attempt ot make being gay socially acceptable?

I'm sorry, but if you're gay, there is something wrong with you. You are unhealty and will die sooner than average. And genetics or not, your most likely to get aids.





Now the above is not a knock against gays, so much put your banning ways away.

It's about the fact that people love to find someone they can ridicule when it has nothing to do with them.

It's exactly the same.

Gay isn't necessarily genetic, infact there are people who were straight who later turned gay for misc reasons.

 

[ahurtt]

Originally posted by: SampSon

Genetics have very little to do with it usually. It is about the eating habits that you grew up with usually. If your family ate a lot and feed you a lot of unhealthy things as you were growing up, your family teaches there kids to eat unhealthy. And the cycle continues. In another country where there is less of a "need" to overeat, that same family would be skinnier.

It usually isn't genetics that makes a whole family obese. It is the eating habits that they trained themselves with. Break the cycle, man.

That's bs. I know families, like my own, that can eat anything they want in any quantity and not gain weight. While on the other hand, for example the other side of my family, that eat very healthy yet maintain a more heavy set body type. Yes family eating habits has a lot to do with it, but the genetics of that person will ultimately determine how the food is metabolized.

So what do you have to say when a person who gets pulled over for DWI has a legitimate medical excuse for being drunk?

:roll: right.

exactly. . .thank you. There is no excuse. They are the same. The cop doesn't care if you are drunk behind the wheel because you are "genetically predisposed" to being alcoholic. Likewise, nobody makes you fat but you. It might be a disease but it is one that has a very simple cure. Put down the Ho-Hos and Coke and pick up an apple and a glass of water fat-ass. If you are an alcoholic who wants to stay dry, you don't drink alcohol. If you are a fat person who wants to be skinny, eat less and eat better. End of story.

 

[deepred98]

Originally posted by: svi

second have you sat next to a fat person on a plane?
now it may just be me but having someone else's a@@ on my leg is not a good feeling

Yeah, I have. Have you sat next to a heavy smoker on a plane? How about someone who won't stop talking to you during the flight? How about someone with a terrible gas problem? How about an Indian guy that doesn't speak English and, when he wakes up and gestures at his in-flight dinner as if to inquire as to its nature, leaves you no option but to mime a chicken?

There are lots of things that are annoying on planes. I don't think personal contact ranks in the top 100.

about the genetics i've got to say sure maybe there are actually people that are predisposed to becoming fat but this has got to be less than .0001% percent of the population and this whole 'fat' gene theory is a little hard to beleive

No, it's considerably more than .0001% of the population. I'm not comfortable giving hard numbers, but I can tell you right now that the amount of the population for whom macronutrient metabolism (a pretentious way of saying "how the body deals with food") is significantly different than the norm is a great deal larger than you seem to think it is-- and this is leaving out those whose metabolisms were effectively set when they were younger (a lot of baby boomers just were never told that stuff they ate was unhealthy).

If the idea is difficult to believe, learn how it's supposed to work before dismissing it (which means educating yourself-- how to do that depends on what stage of life you're currently in).

sure there are more annoying things but those people that smoke (which they aren't supposed to on a plane), or a gas problem which is an actual pretty common disorder aren't in your seat. The problem isn't so much they are touching you, though i am a little ocd about that, but the fact that you payed for that seat, the whole seat, and someone else is one it. Its sortof like politics and countries, if iran builds nukes there isn't much israel can do about it but pressure them to stop, like a smoker, but if iran sent troops, like a fat person's fat, into israel then it is called war. Therefore that person should pay for two seats and undoubtable that would also make them more comfortable.

okay now about this 'macronutrient metabolism' that you talked about. i agree that the number i named was alittle too small but that was more so for effect than anything else. However i beleive at least 85% of obese suffer from the syndrome i described: puttin gtoo much in and not enough out. And even so my number could very well be accurate as the only country that shows significant obesity is america. Europe, Africa, Australia, Asia, the Pacific islands none of these places exhibit obesity quite like the US. Granted some of them are malnourished but you can't dissagree when i say that these people generally aren't fat. Obesity has been limited mostly to the US why, not because of some gentic mutation but because of our vast loads of discrecianary income and our greedy appetites for food that just isn't good for us.

and about your little 'learn more' comment i'm open to anything you through at me and since i'm only in 11th grade i'd have to say there is quite a lot i don't know but also i'd would disagree with saying that i'm not educated. So why don't you go stop blatantly objecting to anything i say and accept that fat people for the majority are fat due to their own problems and if their fine with it well so be it but i still think they should be treated different. A little like affirmative action.

 

[alien42]

Originally posted by: deepred98

Originally posted by: alien42
there are a very small percentage of fat people who are genetically screwed. if you travel to africa, europe, south america, or just about any other country you will find very few fat people compared to the US.

uh no

you get fat if you put more in your mouth than comes out your A@@hole, that's how you get fat, that genetic stuff is just excuses

Did you know that now the handicap parking spaces are being given to fat people. Oficailly obesisty is a handicapp.

personally i think that fat people should be discriminated against. For example they should park furthest away from the store, should have to by two or three plane tickets

I am getting tired of fat people hogging all the food complaining about discrimination and hiding behind this genetics crap.
If your fat well you should suffer for your sin

did you read what you bolded?

 

[deepred98]

Originally posted by: alien42

Originally posted by: deepred98

Originally posted by: alien42
there are a very small percentage of fat people who are genetically screwed. if you travel to africa, europe, south america, or just about any other country you will find very few fat people compared to the US.

uh no

you get fat if you put more in your mouth than comes out your A@@hole, that's how you get fat, that genetic stuff is just excuses

Did you know that now the handicap parking spaces are being given to fat people. Oficailly obesisty is a handicapp.

personally i think that fat people should be discriminated against. For example they should park furthest away from the store, should have to by two or three plane tickets

I am getting tired of fat people hogging all the food complaining about discrimination and hiding behind this genetics crap.
If your fat well you should suffer for your sin

did you read what you bolded?

uh actually i did oddly

hmm not too sure why i quoted you

but hey wtf

 

[mercanucaribe]

Originally posted by: miri

Originally posted by: Rebasxer
I'm not super slim, but I also have really bad metabolism. I eat a salad and a sandwhich every day for lunch I a gain weight if I don't run that day. The guy who sits next to me eats 3 pieces of the greasiest pizza ever, and than 2 King sized candy packs and stays slim as a bone.

Salad and a sandwich for lunch? Thats a lot. I dont even eat breakfast or lunch and just eat a early dinner and im set for the day.

You are also anorexic.

 

[svi]

exactly. . .thank you. There is no excuse. They are the same. The cop doesn't care if you are drunk behind the wheel because you are "genetically predisposed" to being alcoholic. Likewise, nobody makes you fat but you. It might be a disease but it is one that has a very simple cure. Put down the Ho-Hos and Coke and pick up an apple and a glass of water fat-ass. If you are an alcoholic who wants to stay dry, you don't drink alcohol. If you are a fat person who wants to be skinny, eat less and eat better. End of story.

They are not at all "the same". I pointed out why earlier, in a post you managed not to read. Driving under the influence is illegal, being fat isn't; driving under the influence endangers others, being fat doesn't.

sure there are more annoying things but those people that smoke (which they aren't supposed to on a plane), or a gas problem which is an actual pretty common disorder aren't in your seat. The problem isn't so much they are touching you, though i am a little ocd about that, but the fact that you payed for that seat, the whole seat, and someone else is one it. (...)

I'm not saying you don't have a right to be annoyed about it. I'm just saying that others' (and my) complaints are, on such a scale, just as valid as yours, and yet I don't see you saying that people with gas should be treated differently for it. In fact, you're saying that it's a pretty common disorder, as if to minimize it. People with gas could have it taken care of if they just made some simple dietary changes, but no, they have to inconvenience me on a flight I paid good money for!

In other words, just because someone has the potential to inconvenience you on an airplane doesn't mean people should treat them differently (your words). Or do you believe that smokers, people with gas, people who don't speak English, people who talk a lot, and so on should all be treated differently?

okay now about this 'macronutrient metabolism' that you talked about. i agree that the number i named was alittle too small but that was more so for effect than anything else. However i beleive at least 85% of obese suffer from the syndrome i described: puttin gtoo much in and not enough out. And even so my number could very well be accurate as the only country that shows significant obesity is america. Europe, Africa, Australia, Asia, the Pacific islands none of these places exhibit obesity quite like the US. Granted some of them are malnourished but you can't dissagree when i say that these people generally aren't fat. Obesity has been limited mostly to the US why, not because of some gentic mutation but because of our vast loads of discrecianary income and our greedy appetites for food that just isn't good for us.

I'm inclined to put the number more in the nineties. As you said, the obesity issue is not one exhibited worldwide, even in areas where the diet is generally adequate. I just stated that ".0001%" is not at all accurate.

and about your little 'learn more' comment i'm open to anything you through at me and since i'm only in 11th grade i'd have to say there is quite a lot i don't know but also i'd would disagree with saying that i'm not educated. So why don't you go stop blatantly objecting to anything i say

I wasn't throughing [sic] anything at you. You are not educated to a high school level, and you are clearly ignorant of basic principles of human physiology, so yes, I would go so far as to say you are not properly educated in biology. I mean no offense by this comment, and I'm sure there are other areas in which you excel. If you can't accept that there's a field that you know very little about, well, I don't know what to tell you.

I don't "blatantly object" to everything you say. I object to things you say only if I don't think they have solid logical foundations. Disagreement WILL happen on things like this. If you want to minimize it, research the subjects you argue about before putting in your two cents. (Of course, this is entirely optional, as a cursory glance at the Editorials section of nearly any newspaper will show.)

A little like affirmative action.

Let's leave that out of this, shall we?