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buckshot24

Diamond Member
Nov 3, 2009
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Yeah I'm not sure if I'm picking up racism in that. It seemed like someone was disrupting his rally so he called them a paid thug, that could be white or black no?

Given how racist Trump really is are there any better examples?
We can only call white people thugs I guess.
 

shady28

Platinum Member
Apr 11, 2004
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LOL, the worst EC performance by a Democrat since Dukakis in 1988.

Respectfully, this forum is an echo chamber, no understanding of history either, in 240 years, only twice did the same party hold the presidency for 3 terms.

Look for the CF to be neutered and actually do what it claims to do with it's millions.

You nailed it.

If people were paying attention and were as smart as they think they are, they would've read his books and statements he made prior to running for POTUS and studied what little he has let out about his real platforms.

If there was real discourse, people might know this, which I place here as a future reminder when it becomes obvious.

Donald Trump is not a conservative, he is left of Dems on more topics than he is to the right of them. He will co-opt parts of the Dem platform and the GOP platform. He is an anti-globalist "America First" liberal.



Aug 2015 :


Donald Trump Is Planned Parenthood’s Favorite Republican

Jan 2016:

Deace: Donald Trump a Typical New York City Liberal Then and Now

2011
Donald Trump: "We Must Have Universal Healthcare"


5 Times Donald Trump Praised Socialized Healthcare


I mean seriously people, does a right wing Nazi get up on stage and do this??? Look at his face, he's like a happy kid waving that flag around. Could GWB do this? Could Obama even do this?

Once you look for it, it's clear to see. I bet we see as much partnering with Elizabeth Warren as we see with Paul Ryan. I think the only person that got it was Roseanne Barr.

DJT just rick-rolled the GOP, the DNC, MSM, every "Bernie-bot", liberal SJW, and David Duke lover in the whole fucking country.

It had to be done.

 

Jaskalas

Lifer
Jun 23, 2004
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So are there any examples of Trump being racist? I know he is, just looking for an example..

They'll point you to his father's real estate business 30,40 years ago.
Failing that, they'll point to his security positions for the border and Muslims.
Failing that, they'll point you to some poor language.

Long story short is no, he is not.
What you "know" is a caricature painted by his enemies under false pretenses, because that's easier than talking policy.
 

trenchfoot

Lifer
Aug 5, 2000
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you jail Christians for their beliefs
you fire Christians for their beliefs
you destroy Christian's businesses
and then you ask why Christians don't vote for you

are you serious?

Trump may not be Christian, but he doesn't display the reflexive hate and disgust of Christians that the left does

Please don't read into my post things that I did not mean or intend. It was a direct question to another poster of whom gave me a direct and personal answer, of which I thanked him and let him know that I appreciated his response.
 

sxr7171

Diamond Member
Jun 21, 2002
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40
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You nailed it.

If people were paying attention and were as smart as they think they are, they would've read his books and statements he made prior to running for POTUS and studied what little he has let out about his real platforms.

If there was real discourse, people might know this, which I place here as a future reminder when it becomes obvious.

Donald Trump is not a conservative, he is left of Dems on more topics than he is to the right of them. He will co-opt parts of the Dem platform and the GOP platform. He is an anti-globalist "America First" liberal.



Aug 2015 :


Donald Trump Is Planned Parenthood’s Favorite Republican

Jan 2016:

Deace: Donald Trump a Typical New York City Liberal Then and Now

2011
Donald Trump: "We Must Have Universal Healthcare"


5 Times Donald Trump Praised Socialized Healthcare


I mean seriously people, does a right wing Nazi get up on stage and do this??? Look at his face, he's like a happy kid waving that flag around. Could GWB do this? Could Obama even do this?

Once you look for it, it's clear to see. I bet we see as much partnering with Elizabeth Warren as we see with Paul Ryan. I think the only person that got it was Roseanne Barr.

DJT just rick-rolled the GOP, the DNC, MSM, every "Bernie-bot", liberal SJW, and David Duke lover in the whole fucking country.

It had to be done.


He's more of a liberal than Hilary. But the stupidity that was written here over some statements he made just proves that even intelligent people can't see past a statement or something superficial. It was to a point that anyone who didn't agree was labelled a nazi. Typical stupidity of people who psyched themselves up to think that their current effort is so important that the rules of regular discourse are thrown out since it's "an emergency". It's like throwing out the rules because you just announced a state of emergency. Then it becomes get in line or go die.

Also his victory is a big FU to mainstream media. Morons the whole lot. And how stupid people are to sit and believe it and repeat it.

Whoever said "echo chamber" describes this perfectly. The discourse here was very exclusionary. It was just "rascist, nazi, bigot" all day. How otherwise intelligent people get caught up in being a better parrot than the other is amazing to behold.
 

Svnla

Lifer
Nov 10, 2003
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I understand it's supposed to be "humorous". But the same exact thing, I don't know how often I saw it on social media.
What would be so "great" if celebrities, no matter how "evil and liberal" would "leave the US"? What would be in for you? What is the relevancy for your personal life? Seriously asking why this is always shared so enthusiastically by you guys.

Call me old fashion but I do believe in if you (not you personally) are going to talk big, then you better back up your big mouth with your action.

Look like those individuals are just like certain posters in this forum, all big talk and all and when time to put up or shut up, they all fold like bitches. Showing their true colors.

Just saying.
 

UglyCasanova

Lifer
Mar 25, 2001
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Call me old fashion but I do believe in if you (not you personally) are going to talk big, then you better back up your big mouth with your action.

Look like those individuals are just like certain posters in this forum, all big talk and all and when time to put up or shut up, they all fold like bitches. Showing their true colors.

Just saying.


That but mainly just people sick of celebrities thinking their opinion matters. No one cares who George Clooney endorses, no one. Or Miley Cyrus, etc.
 

Bird222

Diamond Member
Jun 7, 2004
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You nailed it.

If people were paying attention and were as smart as they think they are, they would've read his books and statements he made prior to running for POTUS and studied what little he has let out about his real platforms.

If there was real discourse, people might know this, which I place here as a future reminder when it becomes obvious.

Donald Trump is not a conservative, he is left of Dems on more topics than he is to the right of them. He will co-opt parts of the Dem platform and the GOP platform. He is an anti-globalist "America First" liberal.



Aug 2015 :


Donald Trump Is Planned Parenthood’s Favorite Republican

Jan 2016:

Deace: Donald Trump a Typical New York City Liberal Then and Now

2011
Donald Trump: "We Must Have Universal Healthcare"


5 Times Donald Trump Praised Socialized Healthcare


I mean seriously people, does a right wing Nazi get up on stage and do this??? Look at his face, he's like a happy kid waving that flag around. Could GWB do this? Could Obama even do this?

Once you look for it, it's clear to see. I bet we see as much partnering with Elizabeth Warren as we see with Paul Ryan. I think the only person that got it was Roseanne Barr.

DJT just rick-rolled the GOP, the DNC, MSM, every "Bernie-bot", liberal SJW, and David Duke lover in the whole fucking country.

It had to be done.

I hope to God you're right. Because if you're not, we are royally fucked.
 

MetalMat

Diamond Member
Jun 14, 2004
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What a surprise to say the least. I thought Hillary had this in the bag earlier yesterday. I will admit I did not vote for Trump but I hope things go ok, I am a bit worried that we have a republican led Senate, House and president so pretty much anything that Trump wants to pass (within reason) will go through with flying colors. I hope the best for our nation but I am skeptical.

Also those Celebrities that said they will leave the country should be called out if they do not.
 

IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
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27,829
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I am a bit worried that we have a republican led Senate, House and president so pretty much anything that Trump wants to pass (within reason) will go through with flying colors.
I doubt it. The Reps are as far apart from each other as they are from the Dems. Unless the Congressional leadership can find a way to restore party discipline I expect that Trump will have support on tax policy, repealing the ACA (but no support on a replacement), and stronger border enforcement. Everything else will be a fight.
 

Sonikku

Lifer
Jun 23, 2005
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The GoP never got as far as replacement, only repeal. They'll get along just fine.
 

IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
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The GoP never got as far as replacement, only repeal. They'll get along just fine.
Follow the money. The ACA subsidizes poor people but the money flows to the rich. There is a powerful constituency of healthcare providers which would like to see the flow of public money to continue.
 

soundforbjt

Lifer
Feb 15, 2002
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What a surprise to say the least. I thought Hillary had this in the bag earlier yesterday. I will admit I did not vote for Trump but I hope things go ok, I am a bit worried that we have a republican led Senate, House and president so pretty much anything that Trump wants to pass (within reason) will go through with flying colors. I hope the best for our nation but I am skeptical.

Also those Celebrities that said they will leave the country should be called out if they do not.
Sorry, we're still waiting for Limbaugh to lead by example and leave first. It's been SIX years, when he leaving?
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/rush-limbaugh-ill-leave-country-over-health-bill/
 

lopri

Elite Member
Jul 27, 2002
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Out of curiosity can anyone provide a link to a racist thing Trump as said?
Is a link really necessary?

Birther movement was never about Obama's actual birth place.
If you think Peruvian, Chilean, Colombian, or Guatemalan Americans are exempted from "being Mexicans," I have a bridge to sell you.
Same goes for the Muslims. The notion that we should stalk a little girl wearing a hijab because some people of her faith hate America from the other side of the globe is an absurdity that does not pass a smell test.
 

justoh

Diamond Member
Jun 11, 2013
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Believing blacks or browns to be inferior to whites doesn't seem to be a necessary component of the birther movement. You could argue it to be a reasonable inference as to the motive behind it, but that's just speculation. It's also the only sensible thing you posted, since confounding the origin of brown skinned people definitely doesn't require or suggest such a belief, and islam isn't even a race.

And don't note the absurdity of notions that you just notioned yourself.

Trump 2016
 

Torn Mind

Lifer
Nov 25, 2012
11,782
2,685
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You nailed it.

If people were paying attention and were as smart as they think they are, they would've read his books and statements he made prior to running for POTUS and studied what little he has let out about his real platforms.

If there was real discourse, people might know this, which I place here as a future reminder when it becomes obvious.

Donald Trump is not a conservative, he is left of Dems on more topics than he is to the right of them. He will co-opt parts of the Dem platform and the GOP platform. He is an anti-globalist "America First" liberal.



Aug 2015 :


Donald Trump Is Planned Parenthood’s Favorite Republican

Jan 2016:

Deace: Donald Trump a Typical New York City Liberal Then and Now

2011
Donald Trump: "We Must Have Universal Healthcare"


5 Times Donald Trump Praised Socialized Healthcare


I mean seriously people, does a right wing Nazi get up on stage and do this??? Look at his face, he's like a happy kid waving that flag around. Could GWB do this? Could Obama even do this?

Once you look for it, it's clear to see. I bet we see as much partnering with Elizabeth Warren as we see with Paul Ryan. I think the only person that got it was Roseanne Barr.

DJT just rick-rolled the GOP, the DNC, MSM, every "Bernie-bot", liberal SJW, and David Duke lover in the whole fucking country.

It had to be done.

My sentiments emotionally align with this post. But given that he needs to be two-faced, we might actually see real bipartisanship in order to maintain his facade.

I mean, "former" friend of the Clintons(maybe still is, closeted), all these statements, supporting some Democrats in NY politics. You don't go through multiple paradigm shifts like that while also chasing the carrot of the presidency.

But I do believe that since he was truly an amateur who actually won the presidency, there will be a lot of study of how and why he won the election, not just the general one, but the primary despite his liberal history.
 

agent00f

Lifer
Jun 9, 2016
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Yeah I'm not sure if I'm picking up racism in that. It seemed like someone was disrupting his rally so he called them a paid thug, that could be white or black no?

Given how racist Trump really is are there any better examples?

Does he have to call him a chimp for you to admit to it or are there black and white chimps? IOW, how stupid are you willing to pretend to be?

When he says: "You've got to go out, ... you gotta watch the polling booths, because I hear too many stories about Pennsylvania, certain areas... because of you know what I'm talking about", can you figure out what he's talking about and skip the spoon feeding?
 

justoh

Diamond Member
Jun 11, 2013
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Yah and poll tax was not about race.

This is your problem. It's possible for something concerning race to be non-racist. A non-racist may want to disenfranchise black voters because they vote the "wrong way," not because they think their race to be inferior. If they voted as they did, then most of them probably wouldn't mind blacks voting.

Stop calling everything racist.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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This is your problem. It's possible for something concerning race to be non-racist. A non-racist may want to disenfranchise black voters because they vote the "wrong way," not because they think their race to be inferior. If they voted as they did, then most of them probably wouldn't mind blacks voting.

Stop calling everything racist.

What would you like to call that?
 

Puffnstuff

Lifer
Mar 9, 2005
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If Trump will install left leaning SC judges then I will have an improved opinion of him. It's time to remove the right's forced morals on people when they are among the worst offenders around. They claim to be Christian but their behavior betrays their profession making them hypocrites. Nobody has the right to tell a person what they can do with their body.

When indoor smoking was banned in FL I applauded as I regained the right to breath fresh air at work or any place else I was at. The church has no right to tell a woman what she can do with her body just as the left doesn't have the right to tell the church that they're obese and need to be issued calorie ration cards each day to prohibit excessive food intake and lower their body fat. Big religion is out of control trying to force themselves upon the population just like in the old days where the church went around passing judgement on the people. The fact that religion is so out of control is a bad sign.
 
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