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UglyCasanova

Lifer
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Does he have to call him a chimp for you to admit to it or are there black and white chimps? IOW, how stupid are you willing to pretend to be?

When he says: "You've got to go out, ... you gotta watch the polling booths, because I hear too many stories about Pennsylvania, certain areas... because of you know what I'm talking about", can you figure out what he's talking about and skip the spoon feeding?


Voter fraud? There's yet to be a link provided showing Trump as racist. I know he is, from the bottom of my heart, he's 100% racist. I'm just looking for something to back that claim up.
 

Puffnstuff

Lifer
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Look at his own behavior, speeches and left leaning personal history. He pandered to the right to get their vote because they're not taking anything else about him into consideration. I stand in opposition to any group that tries to mandate their own personal beliefs onto others especially when that group consists of a bunch of hypocrites. Do as I say and not as I do is BS!
 
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shady28

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"And some, I assume, are good people"
from the drumpfhole himself

You need to do a bit better than that there Sparky...

Let me give you some examples :

#1 – 1974 : Hillary lashed out at campaign manager Paul Fray calling him a, “f*cking Jew bastard!” This outburst was witnessed and confirmed by 3 people, so it definitely happened.

#2 - Senator Hillary Clinton : “I love this quote. It’s from Mahatma Gandhi. He ran a gas station down in St. Louis for a couple of years. Mr. Gandhi, do you still go to the gas station?

#3 In May 2008, Clinton told the USA Today "“Hard-working white Americans” prefer her to Obama.

#4 - “Ah don’t feel no ways TAHHHHHRD.”

#5 - "Super Predators"
 
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You need to do a bit better than that there Sparky...

Let me give you some examples :

#1 – 1974 : Hillary lashed out at campaign manager Paul Fray calling him a, “f*cking Jew bastard!” This outburst was witnessed and confirmed by 3 people, so it definitely happened.

#2 - Senator Hillary Clinton : “I love this quote. It’s from Mahatma Gandhi. He ran a gas station down in St. Louis for a couple of years. Mr. Gandhi, do you still go to the gas station?

#3 In May 2008, Clinton told the USA Today "“Hard-working white Americans” prefer her to Obama.

#4 - “Ah don’t feel no ways TAHHHHHRD.”

#5 - "Super Predators"
no, no I don't. drumpf's rhetoric speaks for itself as does his settled lawsuits about discriminatory housing practices.
 

Bird222

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This is your problem. It's possible for something concerning race to be non-racist. A non-racist may want to disenfranchise black voters because they vote the "wrong way," not because they think their race to be inferior. If they voted as they did, then most of them probably wouldn't mind blacks voting.

Stop calling everything racist.
Sorry dude, but if you are designing a method of exclusion based on a race of people it's racist. This argument reminds me of the whole 'I don't date black people but I'm not racist it's just preference'. You can make all kinds of excuses but again if your method of exclusion is based on the race of a person it's racist. As a corollary to this, if it can be mathematically shown that your method is disproportionately shown to affect a group it is an 'ist' too. Yes plenty of people have tried to craft creative ways to discriminate against people but smart people are not fooled.
 

SMOGZINN

Lifer
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This is your problem. It's possible for something concerning race to be non-racist. A non-racist may want to disenfranchise black voters because they vote the "wrong way," not because they think their race to be inferior. If they voted as they did, then most of them probably wouldn't mind blacks voting.

Stop calling everything racist.

The axe has no personal amnesty against the tree either, but we don't judge the axes effectiveness by how it feels about trees.
 

SMOGZINN

Lifer
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Cool story about the axe amnesty thing.
Yeah, autocorrect strikes again. It should read animosity. The point I am trying to make is that racism (or any ism) is often more about the results than the intention. It matters little to the people you oppress if you hate them or not if the end result is that they are oppressed.
 

agent00f

Lifer
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Voter fraud? There's yet to be a link provided showing Trump as racist. I know he is, from the bottom of my heart, he's 100% racist. I'm just looking for something to back that claim up.

That minorities are fraudsters, in addition to thugs, terrorists, rapists, etc. That a latino woman is Ms. Housekeeping. That a black president is actually from africa and muslim. Notice that after he purposely riled up the crowd with what they know he's talking about, the klan got busy planning to patrol minority polling places.

It's certainly possible he's not quite klan material per se, but he certainly routinely & habitually panders to them.
 

justoh

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Yeah, autocorrect strikes again. It should read animosity. The point I am trying to make is that racism (or any ism) is often more about the results than the intention. It matters little to the people you oppress if you hate them or not if the end result is that they are oppressed.

Black noise. Do you only ever post nonsense? Animosity this, amnesty that. "[The meaning of words] are often more about the results than the intention...." Something having a racially discriminatory effect or impact isn't the same thing as racism. It doesn't have to, either, to be considered unjust or unconstitutional. It really doesn't have to be the way you like it to be for everything to still be ok. Trump will make words great again.
 
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Svnla

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LOL, let the internal fighting/finger pointing/whining and bitching begin - http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/09/opinions/democratic-party-burn-tasini/index.html

Democrats are just as nasty and as bad as anyone (from the article) not the peace loving, love all, open mind, tolerant that they lied so many times about.

The author did talk about wages being pressing downward yet nothing about the massive number of ILLEGALS that Democrats love to harbor. No skill cheap labor from ILLEGALS = push wages lower for low skill US citizens.
 
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ivwshane

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It doesn't matter what we'd like to call it. I wouldn't call it something that it isn't, based on what I'd like to do. That's another problem.

Yeah it kind of does matter what we call it if you are complaining about what we call it.

I think what you really mean to say is don't call you out on it. You are all for being anti PC until your feelings get hurt. Opinions matter until other peoples opinions shit on yours. You want to criticize without being criticized. You are that guy at work who likes to tell jokes and makes fun of everyone until the joke is at your expense, then its, "hey that's not appropriate at work".

You aren't fooling anyone.
 

Svnla

Lifer
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I read that as sarcasm, but I could be wrong.

From the article, the author own words:

Us/Liberals (not DT voters)
It was pleasure enough for them just to know that they were driving us wild with dismay — by "us," I mean librarians, children's authors, yoga practitioners, Unitarians, birdwatchers, people who make their own pasta, opera goers, the grammar police, people who keep books on their shelves, that bunch.

Democrats can spend four years raising heirloom tomatoes, meditating, reading Jane Austen, traveling around the country, tasting artisan beers,

So the criminals that riot, burned, destroyed properties recently because of the election were Republicans/DT voters? LOL.

DT voters
The Trumpers never expected their guy to actually win the thing, and that's their problem now. They only wanted to whoop and yell, boo at the H-word, wear profane T-shirts, maybe grab a crotch or two, jump in the RV with a couple six-packs and go out and shoot some spotted owls.

Let the uneducated have their day.

Talk about being snob and put down other Americans because "how dare they did not vote for HC, they must be stupid".
 
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justoh

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Yeah it kind of does matter what we call it if you are complaining about what we call it.

I think what you really mean to say is don't call you out on it. You are all for being anti PC until your feelings get hurt. Opinions matter until other peoples opinions shit on yours. You want to criticize without being criticized. You are that guy at work who likes to tell jokes and makes fun of everyone until the joke is at your expense, then its, "hey that's not appropriate at work".

You aren't fooling anyone.

I know i say it a lot, but that's all nonsense. It's so stupid that you probably don't believe what you just wrote either. Or am I giving you too much credit?
 

werepossum

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"Donald Trump is going to be our president. We owe him an open mind and a chance to lead," said Clinton

I wonder how many of HRC's supporters will follow this (especially on this forum)?
Dunno, but that was a damned classy thing for her to say.

That's how much its up from the opening. It never was 700 pts down that was futures trading.

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/^DJI?ltr=1


Trump victory has been good for the markets thus far.
Can you even imagine how much money was made in just one night in the futures market off of panicky proggies utterly convinced that any result other than electing Hillary would lead to an immediate and inevitable apocalypse?

You nailed it.

If people were paying attention and were as smart as they think they are, they would've read his books and statements he made prior to running for POTUS and studied what little he has let out about his real platforms.

If there was real discourse, people might know this, which I place here as a future reminder when it becomes obvious.

Donald Trump is not a conservative, he is left of Dems on more topics than he is to the right of them. He will co-opt parts of the Dem platform and the GOP platform. He is an anti-globalist "America First" liberal.



Aug 2015 :


Donald Trump Is Planned Parenthood’s Favorite Republican

Jan 2016:

Deace: Donald Trump a Typical New York City Liberal Then and Now

2011
Donald Trump: "We Must Have Universal Healthcare"


5 Times Donald Trump Praised Socialized Healthcare


I mean seriously people, does a right wing Nazi get up on stage and do this??? Look at his face, he's like a happy kid waving that flag around. Could GWB do this? Could Obama even do this?

Once you look for it, it's clear to see. I bet we see as much partnering with Elizabeth Warren as we see with Paul Ryan. I think the only person that got it was Roseanne Barr.

DJT just rick-rolled the GOP, the DNC, MSM, every "Bernie-bot", liberal SJW, and David Duke lover in the whole fucking country.

It had to be done.

I hope you are correct. If Trump could control the borders, start deporting criminal illegals, make some smarter trade deals that reflect our value as a market, seat a solidly pro-Second Amendment SCOTUS, and be socially utterly liberal, he might be my favorite President of my lifetime. I just can't reconcile that image with my image of Trump the reality show buffoon. But I pray you are correct about at least part of that. And that Trump was being honest about the parts of his platform that I like.

And my own mea culpa - after all the times I've stated that what a politician will do should be based solely on what they do before they are in election mode, I never researched anything Trump has said or written on politics or society's direction.
 
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