It's over! 2016 Election Night Results Thread!

[Puffnstuff]

Damn...

The Republicans have control of both the House and Senate. Ad in Trump and it's going to be a very difficult few years for Dems.

Bye Bye,

Obamacare √
Iran Nuke Deal √
TPP √
Chinese Manipulation of the Market √
Welfare √

You forgot a few like respect for nonwhite people, females (especially if they're hot), regular working people, etc. If you think that he has the power to nullify trade agreements you'll be in for a rude awakening when nothing changes in that area. I cringe at how the world's view of our country continues to diminish.

 

[Fingolfin269]

I'm trying to imagine Trump transitioning from whatever he was in the debates into something that remotely resonates 'Presidential'. I'm talking about his eventual meetings with other world leaders, addressing important global audiences like the UN, etc. He's got some time to work on it but right now my imagination isn't doing him, or our country, much justice.

 

[grissom]

For all the tears and butthurt and rubbing it in there is only one thing that matters.

The Supreme Court is safe, will prob go at least 6-3, and none of us here will ever have the threat of a semi auto ban or magazine ban or similar 2A bans for the rest of our lives.

It doesn't matter what else Trump does or whether a D or an R come next. It's done. Done.

Any kind of gun bans are off the table permanently for a very long time.

[...]

SCOTUS is all that mattered here.

Happy poison pill free future voting.

Unless you're an AR15 hater and "nobody needs a AK47 to hunt ducks" type...then I guess you're kinda FUCKED! And rightly so.

There are many things I'm willing and capable of compromising on. What kind of property I can purchase and own with my own income has just never been one of them.

I'm happy to have that spectre lifted finally so I don't have to be a fucking straight party line R voting I/L anymore because of one single stubborn political issue that Dems just will not let die. A 6-3 conservative/constitutionalist SCOTUS can kill it for them now for foreseeable decades.

That's real freedom for change.

It is freedom, but there seems to be quite a heavy price for it in terms of the death toll from gun violence in the US.

With the rise in home-grown radicalisation and terrorism in recent years, that toll might get worse, or whatever countermeasures are employed regarding intrusive government surveillance could themselves curtail freedom.

 

[agent00f]

Damn...

The Republicans have control of both the House and Senate. Ad in Trump and it's going to be a very difficult few years for Dems.

Bye Bye,

Obamacare √
Iran Nuke Deal √
TPP √
Chinese Manipulation of the Market √
Welfare √

I wouldn't be so sure of the highlighted given how easy trump is to influence by simply complimenting him.

 

[zinfamous]

Well looks like Sp33dy, LK, and Michael Moore were all right. What a group of people and what a country!

I'm rather terrified about what this means for SCOTUS--the measured regression towards Victorian values throughout the rest of my lifetime, but there is hope that President Drumpf will meet stiffer resistance on those appointments than he did in "staunch democratic" states as he goosestepped towards this victory. Second, I'm worried for my loved ones and friends in the Baltic states, how have essentially been living under constant threat from Russian re-invasion ever sense they dared to declare independence from their occupiers in 1991. Things have gotten much worse since Putin, obviously, but that potential is actually now extremely serious. I dare say that anyone who doubts that is very ignorant of the situation over there since WW2.

But, congrats to Sp33dy and LK (and Michael Moore) for being 100% correct on the demographics that won this thing. I had recently read a few articles making this same argument--logically, convincingly, and quite worryingly, but I just didn't want to believe that those numbers would be significant enough to turn those PA/MI/WI Dems over to Trump. It does seem pretty clear now that Bernie would have won this thing. Amazing.

ANd hey, even John Conner can blindfold himself and toss a dart towards a target and be right about something from time to time.

 

[agent00f]

Well looks like Sp33dy, LK, and Michael Moore were all right. What a group of people and what a country!

I'm rather terrified about what this means for SCOTUS--the measured regression towards Victorian values throughout the rest of my lifetime, but there is hope that President Drumpf will meet stiffer resistance on those appointments than he did in "staunch democratic" states as he goosestepped towards this victory. Second, I'm worried for my loved ones and friends in the Baltic states, how have essentially been living under constant threat from Russian re-invasion ever sense they dared to declare independence from their occupiers in 1991. Things have gotten much worse since Putin, obviously, but that potential is actually now extremely serious. I dare say that anyone who doubts that is very ignorant of the situation over there since WW2.

But, congrats to Sp33dy and LK (and Michael Moore) for being 100% correct on the demographics that won this thing. I had recently read a few articles making this same argument--logically, convincingly, and quite worryingly, but I just didn't want to believe that those numbers would be significant enough to turn those PA/MI/WI Dems over to Trump. It does seem pretty clear now that Bernie would have won this thing. Amazing.

ANd hey, even John Conner can blindfold himself and toss a dart towards a target and be right about something from time to time.

Don't worry, people living next to canada who're afraid of mexicans were never going to vote for a socialist anyway.

A sanders path to victory hinges more on the youth vote, whose turnout would've arguable help the democrats.

 

[vi edit]

I figured it would be much closer than many of the mainstream media and pundits were calling it before hand. I didn't believe it would be in the 300+ for her. But I did not see MI, WI and PA flipping. I don't think Bernie would have pulled FL, NC, or Ohio. I also question how much better he would have done in those big three that Clinton lost. NH is an obvious tip to him. I really don't know if the results would have been a lot different. Hillary lost some of the black vote that didn't show, women broke much harder for Trump than pre-election polling was showing, and the non-college whites ran up the rural areas.

It's hard to tell how many 3rd party/write ins were protest votes to Trump vs. Clinton. We'll probably never be able to guess on that.

So yes, I am surprised at the outcome. But it's what it is. Best hope is that he makes a late presidential pivot and actually turns into sincere human being and we can move forward.

 

[Pneumothorax]

I think it's amazing that Florida had 2 million more vote than California. Shows how the electoral college really distorts things.

Well when you live in a state as blue as ours, pretty much every vote I put in was wasted. (registered repub here) Of course, the presidential vote was wasted, the US Senate vote was wasted - (HA! -both Dems as the only choice!), all my local R politicos were soundly 'Trumped' by their D opponents, and pretty much every Prop I wanted to pass did not and ones I didn't want to pass, did. The worst is the 'free early prison release' prop 57.

 

[jihe]

Why did Hillary send Podesta out to face her supporters?
"She has always been with you" How could he say that with a straight face?
This is pathetic.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

News is already saying to anticipate urban protests in DC, NYC, LA, Portland, and Seattle.

I wonder how many protesters didn't turn out to vote? Heh.

Reap and sow democrats, you did this to yourself. Whether it was believing in bullshit media, bullshit media polls, or not realizing that there is a large base of conservatives that you should be trying to appeal to instead of throwing them under the bus for everything. We like in a politically correct world where everything is racist, everything is homophobic, and everything misogynist. So if you ever have ANY issues whatsoever with these groups (Feminism, LGBTBBQ, or Black Lives Matter) - It's ALWAYS you. You're the one at fault, not a group of protesters that ignite cities on fire, loot stores and block interstate highways. Or at least, that's what the democratic party made it out to be.

As a fiscal conservative and a semi-progressive on social issues - which is all the democrats can EVER appeal to, the stupid social issues - I bit the bullet this year and gave her the vote. And you still lost.

 

[exdeath]

It is freedom, but there seems to be quite a heavy price for it in terms of the death toll from gun violence in the US.

With the rise in home-grown radicalisation and terrorism in recent years, that toll might get worse, or whatever countermeasures are employed regarding intrusive government surveillance could themselves curtail freedom.

I'm sure there will be short term costs. The difference is all other political issues can change on a whim with the party in power. And religion is dying, being gay or black or atheist is trending more and more socially accepted and will run its course naturally.

Except guns. Guns are the one thing that once you lose it, it's gone forever.

NFA '34 and GCA'68 is long standing proof of that. Other countries like Australia and Britain are proof of that. Not only that but guns are vulnerable to the slippery slope progressivism and emotional ploys and demonizing following tragic events. Meaning there can be no compromise because next time it happens again anyway we need more and more and more.

In 1934 it was "we aren't banning anything, we just want to tax, have fingerprints and background check, and a registry for certain types of assault weapons".

Sound familiar?

52 years later in '86 the registry was closed forever. This is called a ban. People who weren't born in '34 and had no voice or representation are still effectively unable to acquire those items legally 82 years later.

That's twice as long as Roe vs Wade has existed, and unlike the latter, has never ever ever been close to being challenged or repealed.

Case in point everyone is worked up about Roe vs Wade right now I bet. But how many even know what NFA or Hughes Amendment even is? Practically nobody. It's been forgotten about. That's what makes it easier to establish a new status quo foundation and then pretend there are no restrictions and ask for compromise again.

82 years, there is nobody left alive by now to know that we already ARE at the middle ground of a compromise with respect to gun rights and restrictions, and unlike Roe vs Wade they don't want you to know about NFA and the history of 2A in school.

That's how you ban guns and abolish 2A without needing an amendment passed. You appeal to reason with "it's just a registry it's common sense and sensibility" then you close the registry later. After that, restrict transfers to heirs, etc. States like CA have already starting forbidding transfers past the original owner. End goal? Total eventual ban and illegality once current "grandfathered" owners are no more. It's a mandatory confiscation where you wait for the pre existing owners to die off naturally first.

This entire election hinged around gun rights and SCOTUS. We can deal with a few setbacks to pay for the huge win in effectively taking guns off the political bargaining table for a few decades. It's just no longer something I'll ever have to care about again in my lifetime.

With bans off the table no exceptions perhaps now we can come up with real solutions and compromises to curb gun violence instead of guns. Dem solutions always intending to ultimately lead to an eventual ban in some form is what has always made gun rights a non compromisable issue. Maybe now "common sense" can mean "common sense" instead of it being dem secret playbook code for "assault weapon ban" and we can open up to real solutions to reduce gun violence.

 

[disappoint]

Why did Hillary send Podesta out to face her supporters?
"She has always been with you" How could he say that with a straight face?
This is pathetic.

Hah. Yeah she has always been with you. Except now. And when she sold state secrets for millions of dollars in campaign contributions from foreign governments.

 

[Herr Kutz]

I just got to work and can already tell there is a more jubilant atmosphere. People are smiling despite it being a Wednesday morning.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Damn...

The Republicans have control of both the House and Senate. Ad in Trump and it's going to be a very difficult few years for Dems.

Bye Bye,

Obamacare √
Iran Nuke Deal √
TPP √
Chinese Manipulation of the Market √
Welfare √

How is Trump supposed to end Chinese manipulation of their own currency? Threaten them with 45% tariffs or whatver he's suggested before? Have them stop accepting our money?

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

To Go along with my point earlier...

News is already saying to anticipate urban protests in DC, NYC, LA, Portland, and Seattle.

I wonder how many protesters didn't turn out to vote? Heh.

Reap and sow democrats, you did this to yourself. Whether it was believing in bullshit media, bullshit media polls, or not realizing that there is a large base of conservatives that you should be trying to appeal to instead of throwing them under the bus for everything. We like in a politically correct world where everything is racist, everything is homophobic, and everything misogynist. So if you ever have ANY issues whatsoever with these groups (Feminism, LGBTBBQ, or Black Lives Matter) - It's ALWAYS you. You're the one at fault, not a group of protesters that ignite cities on fire, loot stores and block interstate highways. Or at least, that's what the democratic party made it out to be.

As a fiscal conservative and a semi-progressive on social issues - which is all the democrats can EVER appeal to, the stupid social issues - I bit the bullet this year and gave her the vote. And you still lost.

Oh the sweet sweet irony

 

[DrunkenSano]

Why did Hillary send Podesta out to face her supporters?
"She has always been with you" How could he say that with a straight face?
This is pathetic.

That's one big reason why Hillary lost, because many people knew that she was not there for the people. The die hard Hillary people were duped, her true face revealed itself with just this act. She's in it for her, for the Clintons. She was most likely raging backstage, screaming how this could be possible. All the know-it-alls thinking that Clinton had this in the bag didn't know the American people, they only knew those who lived in the urban/metropolitan areas. There is so much disgust with the elite and status quo that it was going to be a much, much closer race than many of the predictions, people either were too dumb to see it or just didn't want to believe it.

 

[Kazukian]

That's one big reason why Hillary lost, because many people knew that she was not there for the people. The die hard Hillary people were duped, her true face revealed itself with just this act. She's in it for her, for the Clintons. She was most likely raging backstage, screaming how this could be possible. All the know-it-alls thinking that Clinton had this in the bag didn't know the American people, they only knew those who lived in the urban/metropolitan areas. There is so much disgust with the elite and status quo that it was going to be a much, much closer race than many of the predictions, people either were too dumb to see it or just didn't want to believe it.

Yep, I'm pretty sure she was throwing shit last night.

 

[Chaotic42]

My Facebook feed is getting nuts. I wonder if there will be a lot of protests, especially here in Saint Louis.

 

[Double Trouble]

News is already saying to anticipate urban protests in DC, NYC, LA, Portland, and Seattle.

I wonder how many protesters didn't turn out to vote? Heh.

Reap and sow democrats, you did this to yourself. Whether it was believing in bullshit media, bullshit media polls, or not realizing that there is a large base of conservatives that you should be trying to appeal to instead of throwing them under the bus for everything. We like in a politically correct world where everything is racist, everything is homophobic, and everything misogynist. So if you ever have ANY issues whatsoever with these groups (Feminism, LGBTBBQ, or Black Lives Matter) - It's ALWAYS you. You're the one at fault, not a group of protesters that ignite cities on fire, loot stores and block interstate highways. Or at least, that's what the democratic party made it out to be.

As a fiscal conservative and a semi-progressive on social issues - which is all the democrats can EVER appeal to, the stupid social issues - I bit the bullet this year and gave her the vote. And you still lost.

This is spot on. Tired of political correctness, how certain groups are afforded special status to be beyond criticism lest you be branded some sort of "ist" or bigot etc. No way we can ever have an honest dialogue or good discussions in such an environment, no way we can actually address issues. I have severe misgivings about president Trump, but we'll see how he does. I'm thrilled Hillary is not in the White House though.

 

[Double Trouble]

My Facebook feed is getting nuts. I wonder if there will be a lot of protests, especially here in Saint Louis.

Same here, kind of enjoying watching all the Hillary supporters throw tantrums like petulant 3 year olds not getting their way.

 

[tynopik]

Honest question:

If you would, could you please explain why, as a Christian, you considered Trump to be the better choice? I'm asking this because I'm wondering how you, as a Christian would vote for Trump who displays all of the habits and characteristics of a person who is not anything like how a Christian should behave.

you jail Christians for their beliefs
you fire Christians for their beliefs
you destroy Christian's businesses
and then you ask why Christians don't vote for you

are you serious?

Trump may not be Christian, but he doesn't display the reflexive hate and disgust of Christians that the left does

 

[Double Trouble]

you jail Christians for their beliefs
you fire Christians for their beliefs
you destroy Christian's businesses
and then you ask why Christians don't vote for you

are you serious?

Trump may not be Christian, but he doesn't display the reflexive hate and disgust of Christians that the left does

I'm Catholic, and the leaked emails that showed Hillary and her camp's outright disgust and disdain for Catholics was ultimately one of the things that pushed me to hold my nose and vote Trump even though I have strong misgivings about him. How can I vote for someone who publicly says things, and then behind closed doors shows absolute disdain for me simply because of my religion?

 

[Andrea100]

I'm really glad this election thing has ended.
But hysteria "is this choice right?" begins. And that's upsetting...

 

[C1]

Okay, now that Trump is to become POTUS, I fully expect (ya demand) that those leftests Miley Cyrus, Lady Gaga, Amy Schumer & the like keep their promise to leave the country.

Ya, right... they're still here because they are gutless leftest garbage.

http://hollywoodlife.com/2016/11/08...-trump-wins-election-miley-cyrus-amy-schumer/

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/21382...tume-hillary-clinton-rally-like-nazi-uniform/

http://hollywoodlife.com/2015/11/20/miley-cyrus-penis-boobs-concert-tour-looks-pics/

 

[Pens1566]

I was wrong. I admit it. I hope that President Trump (barf) is nothing like candidate Trump.

Having said that, I am taking a small bit of joy this morning in the immediate buyers remorse from Trump voters "What happened to my 401k???". Well, get used to it. It's going to be a long 4 years.