I've been playing WoW for three hours...

[RevoluChe]

Originally posted by: Jumpem
Am I missing the fun and addictive part everyone talked about?

Here is what I suggest:

1) Join a good guild

2) Get to a decently high level (30+) and go on a PK rampage (PvP servers only)

3) Max out your character and wait for the battlegrounds.

I spent many long hours playing WoW and it did not become boring until I reached level 50. Once I did hit 50 though, the game became quite boring, and I decided not to renew my subscription. I am going to wait until battlegrounds are implemented before reactivating my account.

That being said, as of now, there is very little to do in WoW except leveling and getting good equipment (sadly enough...I'm a huge fan of UO and the gameplay in WoW could not be more different.) Sooner or later, the realization that the game involves nothing more than killing countless and repetitive monsters in a similar and repetitive manner becomes apparent. Hopefully, the planned battlegrounds will change that, as Blizzard has announced their plan for the battlegrounds is to make players feel like they are part of a large battle, ala Warcraft 3.

 

[TheVrolok]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: TheVrolok
I solo a solid 70% of the time, but this guy was saying he ONLY solo's.. And I don't know what kind of groups you get yourself involved with, if you get in a group and are forced to do this one thing or that then that's your own fault for sticking in the group. I've never had a problem with being in a group, if there's something I don't like, I just leave it. Easy. Not to mention this game, WoW, was specifically intended to include grouping evidence of that occurs in every elite quest. You cannot solo many (in fact, very few) elite quests until you are so far above the level you receive the quest that the rewards are nearly worthless. And what path are you choosing?

There are good groups and there are bad groups. Unless you have a guild you belong to, which is pracitcally as much a life committment as marriage and appeals to me not at all, then groups are a total crap shoot. Getting groups is a necessary evil at times, but they ARE a hassle to get, so saying you can just drop one and hop into another just like that is either naiive or exaggeration.

It's hardly like your game experience is unique, this game has a finite (excluding expansions of course) set of quests to do, and everyone's doing them. Yes, the characters are not (hopefully) cookie cutters by the end, but to say totally unique is quite a bit off..

If you think a character is comprised of the quests he completes or the gear he wears then you are getting NOTHING out of these games or WoW is worse than I thought. Characters have personalities and pentients and specialties. I still remember the people I hung out with in UO 7 years ago. Each of them is is totally distinct in my mind. They each had tendencies and flaws and certain skill levels. For example, I named my character timber wolf because I hunted primarily in the forests south of the dungeon Shame where there were lots of wolves and swooped down on the evil players who haunted the crossroads nearby. People looking for me knew to check there or the Trinsic bank roof top. They also knew not to ask me to join their guild and that I was always down for fighting PKs even when grossly outnumbered and that I would be bringing a heavy crossbow to battle. And that I had a large stockpile of pre-patch archery weapons and lived in a green tent by the river near the hedge maze. Meanwhile, there were other people who played mostly inside dungeons or hung out in Vesper on the other side of Britannia who would never know of me at all. That's the whole magic and, frankly, the point of playing these games.

And, Gurck, I haven't bought anything Sony since a CD walkman in the early 90's. I did play EQ for a few months, but I only Beta'd SWG.

Getting a group really is as easy as that.. perhaps your attitude keeps you clear of groups. And I thoroughly enjoy WoW and I like playing my character but its a damn game man, I have a real life to fully explore the world...

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: TheVrolok
Getting a group really is as easy as that.. perhaps your attitude keeps you clear of groups. And I thoroughly enjoy WoW and I like playing my character but its a damn game man, I have a real life to fully explore the world...

Ah, here it comes, the obligatory reminder that you're a totally cool and interesting person in real life thrown in for no apparent reason other than self-affirmation.

Hey, I think it's great you go exploring in real life. I also enjoy exploring. Since we're sharing personal feelings with each other, I'd just like to let you know how much I like peanut butter. But we were talking about video games here....however minimal their role in our lives, and I seem to just want to have as rich an experience as possible while you are content to complete quests.

And you are being naiive about groups. There are criteria for getting into a group.
1. You must be nearby....nobody wants to wait for you to run there.
2. You must be of a similar level for optimal XP gainage.
3. You must fit a need within the group. "No thanks we already have a tank/nuker/healer."
4. The group must not be full.

And you can't go AFK or leave suddenly without pissing everybody off. I'm sure as fascinating a fellow as you must be with your exciting real life you always have things pulling you away, so I'm sure you know all about how frustrating this can be.

 

[Gurck]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
I haven't bought anything Sony since a CD walkman in the early 90's. I did play EQ for a few months, but I only Beta'd SWG.

Who do you think makes EQ2?

 

[TheVrolok]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: TheVrolok
Getting a group really is as easy as that.. perhaps your attitude keeps you clear of groups. And I thoroughly enjoy WoW and I like playing my character but its a damn game man, I have a real life to fully explore the world...

Ah, here it comes, the obligatory reminder that you're a totally cool and interesting person in real life thrown in for no apparent reason other than self-affirmation.

Hey, I think it's great you go exploring in real life. I also enjoy exploring. Since we're sharing personal feelings with each other, I'd just like to let you know how much I like peanut butter. But we were talking about video games here....however minimal their role in our lives, and I seem to just want to have as rich an experience as possible while you are content to complete quests.

And you are being naiive about groups. There are criteria for getting into a group.
1. You must be nearby....nobody wants to wait for you to run there.
2. You must be of a similar level for optimal XP gainage.
3. You must fit a need within the group. "No thanks we already have a tank/nuker/healer."
4. The group must not be full.

And you can't go AFK or leave suddenly without pissing everybody off. I'm sure as fascinating a fellow as you must be with your exciting real life you always have things pulling you away, so I'm sure you know all about how frustrating this can be.

I feel the 'real life' comment was completely relevant as I was addressing the issue of character 'uniqueness.' You argued that you can truly make your character unique, and I disagreed, you stated this was true because the character was not about the quests nor the gear and then claimed that whatever 'emotion' or idiosyncrasies or MO you gave the character truly made the character. I'm simply saying that while that's all fine and good you don't have to play these games and actually RP to enjoy them. You claim that you don't need groups to enjoy an MMO, but it seems you think RPing is absolutely necessary. I beg to differ, it can remain just a game and still have a fun social feel, very much due to grouping. I'll bet you thought you were cool with your witty peanut butter comment too, eh?

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: Jumpem

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
i was hooked after about 20 minutes, it now owns my soul get out while you still can. BTW, i was like that with SWG.

I'm a level 6 human rogue right now. It seems all I do is go on little quests for people. What else am I supposed to be doing.

Getting together with friends doing elite quests together. Leveling up and getting better equipment and spells. Going over to horde land and fighting them. Visiting auction house buying and selling. Learning proffesions and begin making your own equipment and selling it to others. Explore and travel. Hunt, fish, help those in need.

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: Gurck

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
I haven't bought anything Sony since a CD walkman in the early 90's. I did play EQ for a few months, but I only Beta'd SWG.

Who do you think makes EQ2?

I don't play EQII. This whole latest crop of MMORPGS has totally disappointed me.

 

[ResiduaL]

If you've read anything at all, then you know EQ2 won't be implementing PVP for awhile.
They said from the start the game is more Player Verses Environment or PVE focused.
PVP in WOW may still be flawed but it's still fun as heck.
Once battle grounds and the honor system are introduced, things will definitely pick up.

If you think the game's boring, you're gonna get mad pissed off then when you walk through contested territory like Hillsbrad Fields. You'll be in the middle of a raid every single night, Southshore vs. Tauren Mill and newbs gettin' ganked left and right.

While I would prefer EQ2's much more in depth customization features and slower level grind, I love the feeling of WOW's quests, the PVP raids and ganking you can do/have done to you, the beautiful environments that flow together seemlessly, only utilizing loading screens when you change continents via zeppelin or hearthstone.
The game's very well done, and while the server instability problems, fast leveling system and character nerfs on Warriors and Priests have drawn people away, there's still plenty of people to interact with.
Everyone saw the WOW craze on the first day. The game will stay at the zenith of MMORPG's for at least a year though my own personal interest level might topple down after 8-10 months unless pvp battle zones, high end raids and high end quests can convince me otherwise.

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: ResiduaL
If you've read anything at all, then you know EQ2 won't be implementing PVP for awhile.
They said from the start the game is more Player Verses Environment or PVE focused.
PVP in WOW may still be flawed but it's still fun as heck.
Once battle grounds and the honor system are introduced, things will definitely pick up.

If you think the game's boring, you're gonna get mad pissed off then when you walk through contested territory like Hillsbrad Fields. You'll be in the middle of a raid every single night, Southshore vs. Tauren Mill and newbs gettin' ganked left and right.

While I would prefer EQ2's much more in depth customization features and slower level grind, I love the feeling of WOW's quests, the PVP raids and ganking you can do/have done to you, the beautiful environments that flow together seemlessly, only utilizing loading screens when you change continents via zeppelin or hearthstone.
The game's very well done, and while the server instability problems, fast leveling system and character nerfs on Warriors and Priests have drawn people away, there's still plenty of people to interact with.
Everyone saw the WOW craze on the first day. The game will stay at the zenith of MMORPG's for at least a year though my own personal interest level might topple down after 8-10 months unless pvp battle zones, high end raids and high end quests can convince me otherwise.

Then I have to ask why you aren't playing DAoC? It has all the features WoW has yet to add and much more and, with the Catacombs expansion now has far better graphics even. Everything you described about WoW that you love is in DAoC.

Is the Blizzard name just THAT big a deal?

 

[Velk]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: ResiduaL
If you've read anything at all, then you know EQ2 won't be implementing PVP for awhile.
They said from the start the game is more Player Verses Environment or PVE focused.
PVP in WOW may still be flawed but it's still fun as heck.
Once battle grounds and the honor system are introduced, things will definitely pick up.

If you think the game's boring, you're gonna get mad pissed off then when you walk through contested territory like Hillsbrad Fields. You'll be in the middle of a raid every single night, Southshore vs. Tauren Mill and newbs gettin' ganked left and right.

While I would prefer EQ2's much more in depth customization features and slower level grind, I love the feeling of WOW's quests, the PVP raids and ganking you can do/have done to you, the beautiful environments that flow together seemlessly, only utilizing loading screens when you change continents via zeppelin or hearthstone.
The game's very well done, and while the server instability problems, fast leveling system and character nerfs on Warriors and Priests have drawn people away, there's still plenty of people to interact with.
Everyone saw the WOW craze on the first day. The game will stay at the zenith of MMORPG's for at least a year though my own personal interest level might topple down after 8-10 months unless pvp battle zones, high end raids and high end quests can convince me otherwise.

Then I have to ask why you aren't playing DAoC? It has all the features WoW has yet to add and much more and, with the Catacombs expansion now has far better graphics even. Everything you described about WoW that you love is in DAoC.

Is the Blizzard name just THAT big a deal?

Why aren't you drinking pepsi ? It has all the features that coke does and it tastes better, everything you described about coke that you love is in pepsi.

Is the coke name just THAT big a deal ?

 

[CVSiN]

Originally posted by: Jumpem

Originally posted by: Hadsus
Learn how to post rather than troll....ie., why you are dissatisfied and/or what your expectations were.

:thumbsdown:

Trolling not found. GTFO!

It simply seems boring. YOu run around kill something, then get another quest. What else is there to do?

Welcome to MMOs..
that is WoW...
kill stuff... hang out with peeps get levels.. get rare items.. and stick daggers swords and ice bolts in the red people..,.

thats WoW...

its fun im L46 Rogue on PVP server spent the entire weekend in huge PVP battles...
and defending lower peeps from high level gankers..
alot of fun.

 

[CVSiN]

Originally posted by: Jumpem

Originally posted by: TheVrolok
Group up with others? Raids? PvP? Profession grinding? What would YOU like to do?

Solo. I only like other players for trading. Not sure about professions for a warrior.

Well that approach in WoW wont last long... this isnt Diablo..
at L20 you will start being forced to group up to around L60....
there are a few quests you will still be able to do solo from 20-60 but alot more that require a full group or at least a partner to complete...

WoW is a teamwork game... while it is very solo friendly... you will miss alot of content that way..
and it will be very boring as it was not designed that way.

 

[gururu]

I don't think this game is cut out for you. YOu can't expect it to save your gaming life. You kind of have to just dig it. I found the game simple, but incredibly fun. I am in a guild with many people same level as me, and we are all advancing together. THe goal is to get mounts and conduct highly organized raiding sessions on the Alliance grounds. Already, participating in raids of 40+ is exhilirating. The class differences have history and for warcraft fans provide for interesting gameplay. Its funny, most Horde players HATE the night elves. Going out on raids for night elves is particluarly satisfactory.
The questing is neverending and painful for the perfectionist. If you decide to keep playing, definitely seek contact with others because that helps build a sense of comraderie I am sure you are used to in EQ2. Drop WOW if EQ2 floats your boat though. I can't imagine playing 2 of these time-killers.

 

[torpid]

Hm... I have spent a good amount of time in southshore lately and have yet to see a raid. I do see a lot of tauren poking around and occasionally wandering too close to the level 50 southshore guards.

On the other hand, there was a crafty horde druid running around in the stormwind zone picking off npcs in goldshire, the logging camp, sven in darkshore, etc. and then running away just as he was about to be killed.

 

[gururu]

Originally posted by: torpid
Hm... I have spent a good amount of time in southshore lately and have yet to see a raid. I do see a lot of tauren poking around and occasionally wandering too close to the level 50 southshore guards.

On the other hand, there was a crafty horde druid running around in the stormwind zone picking off npcs in goldshire, the logging camp, sven in darkshore, etc. and then running away just as he was about to be killed.

it seems a favorite spot that the alliance likes to attack is the Crossroads via travel from Booty Bay to Ratchet and then straight south to the crossroads. That is where I've had to spend the most time defending many assaults. i cant believe your guild doesn't talk about or conduct raids!

 

[torpid]

Originally posted by: gururu

Originally posted by: torpid
Hm... I have spent a good amount of time in southshore lately and have yet to see a raid. I do see a lot of tauren poking around and occasionally wandering too close to the level 50 southshore guards.

On the other hand, there was a crafty horde druid running around in the stormwind zone picking off npcs in goldshire, the logging camp, sven in darkshore, etc. and then running away just as he was about to be killed.

it seems a favorite spot that the alliance likes to attack is the Crossroads via travel from Booty Bay to Ratchet and then straight south to the crossroads. That is where I've had to spend the most time defending many assaults. i cant believe your guild doesn't talk about or conduct raids!

I assume you are referring to someone else? My guild actually does do raids, though I just joined it and have mixed feelings so far as to whether it is the right guild for me. I also have noticed an unusually heavy preference for raiding crossroads.

 

[gururu]

Originally posted by: torpid

I assume you are referring to someone else? My guild actually does do raids, though I just joined it and have mixed feelings so far as to whether it is the right guild for me. I also have noticed an unusually heavy preference for raiding crossroads.

sorry, I took your Southshore statement to be all encompassing! But yea, finding the right guild is important, seems so many are just interested in numbers.