Ivy Bridge EN/EP brings 70-95W TDP 10C/20T CPUs in Q3/2013

[Sweepr]

Just a taste of whats coming next:

With IB-EP we got 50% more cores vs SB-EP (12 vs 8) at similar frequency. Next year comes Haswell-EP: Up to 14 cores (35Mb L3; 2.5Mb per core) with AVX2/FMA3 support coming to servers:

 

[crashtech]

This E5 2687W is a single-socket CPU. Does anyone know if single-socket Xeons work with consumer LGA2011 boards? 10-core Ivy Bridge @ 3.4GHz would be much faster than an OCed 6C/12T IB-E in many tasks.

Traditionally that is the case. There is supposed to be an E5-2643 v2 @3.5GHz also.

My guess is that few 12 core Mac Pros will be delivered, since the single thread perf will suck and that's no fun for a workstation.

 

[IntelUser2000]

This E5 2687W is a single-socket CPU. Does anyone know if single-socket Xeons work with consumer LGA2011 boards? 10-core Ivy Bridge @ 3.4GHz would be much faster than an OCed 6C/12T IB-E in many tasks.

The E5-2687W is a DUAL socket CPU.

The "2" in the 2687 means dual socket. A single socket version would be 1687W.

2687W:

2-Socket count
6-Type of platform(in this case, the EP)
87-SKU numbers
W-Workstation

 

[crashtech]

Dual socket Xeons can work in single socket boards, but single socket CPUs won't work in dual socket boards.

 

[zir_blazer]

Dual socket Xeons can work in single socket boards, but single socket CPUs won't work in dual socket boards.

Actually, I think that a Uniprocessor model WILL work on a Dual Socket board, as long as you use it alone. Recall seeing it somewhere on old platforms.

 

[Sweepr]

Xeon E5-2640 v2 8 2 GHz 20 MB 95 Watt
Xeon E5-2643 v2 10 3.5 GHz 25 MB 130 Watt
Xeon E5-2650 v2 8 2.6 GHz 20 MB 95 Watt
Xeon E5-2650L v2 10 1.7 GHz 25 MB 70 Watt
Xeon E5-2660 v2 10 2.2 GHz 25 MB 95 Watt
Xeon E5-2667 v2 10 3.3 GHz 25 MB 130 Watt
Xeon E5-2670 v2 10 2.5 GHz 25 MB 115 Watt
Xeon E5-2680 v2 10 2.8 GHz 25 MB 115 Watt
Xeon E5-2687W v2 10 3.4 GHz 25 MB 150 Watt
Xeon E5-2690 v2 10 3 GHz 25 MB 130 Watt
Xeon E5-2695 v2 12 2.4 GHz 30 MB 115 Watt
Xeon E5-2697 v2 12 2.7 GHz 30 MB 130 Watt

www.cpu-world.com/news_2013/2013062601_Specifications_of_Intel_Xeon_E5-2600_v2_CPUs.html

 

[SunRe]

This Xeon E5-2687W v2 10 3.4 GHz 25 MB 150 Watt should be impressive

We need an Extreme Edition based on this. Can't recall last time Intel had a CPU with a TDP over 130w.

 

[ViRGE]

This Xeon E5-2687W v2 10 3.4 GHz 25 MB 150 Watt should be impressive

We need an Extreme Edition based on this. Can't recall last time Intel had a CPU with a TDP over 130w.

3970X was 150W (which was rather strange since it was only 100MHz faster than the 130W 3960X).

 

[Sweepr]

What about 130W TDP Xeon E5-2643 (10 IB cores @ 3.5GHz) and Xeon E5-2697 (12 IB cores @ 2.7GHz). Damn, +50% faster than the current 130W TDP Xeon E5-2680 (8 SB cores @ 2.7GHz). Thanks 22nm.

 

[SunRe]

Xeon E5-2643 v2 10 3.5 GHz 25 MB 130 Watt
Xeon E5-2687W v2 10 3.4 GHz 25 MB 150 Watt

What's the catch?

 

[ShintaiDK]

Xeon E5-2643 v2 10 3.5 GHz 25 MB 130 Watt
Xeon E5-2687W v2 10 3.4 GHz 25 MB 150 Watt

What's the catch?

A typo I would guess. 2.5 instead of 3.5.

 

[Sweepr]

3 different dies: 6-core, 10-core and 12-core

http://vr-zone.com/articles/ivy-bridge-e-core-i7-is-actual-6-core-xeon-die/50572.html

SB-EP/SB-E had two dies: 4-core and 8-core.

 

[aigomorla]

so assuming 12core isnt limited to a blade server...

We can pray for a XE 12core?
or did someone misread the threads and its a hexcore with HT ON?

 

[blackened23]

so assuming 12core isnt limited to a blade server...

We can pray for a XE 12core?
or did someone misread the threads and its a hexcore with HT ON?

Looks like there will indeed be a 12 core IVB Xeon chip:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ivy-bridge-ep-xeon-e5-2697-v2-benchmarks,3585.html

 

[SunRe]

This is sick :

Xeon E5-2687W v2 8 cores 3.4 GHz 20 MB 150 Watt $2414.35
Xeon E5-2690 v2 10 cores 3 GHz 25 MB 130 Watt $2355.52
Xeon E5-2697 v2 12 cores 2.7 GHz 30 MB 130 Watt $2949.69

Price is sick also..

 

[MisterMac]

Whenever someone solves the threading\parallelism problem in a cost effective way for general purpose gaming\computing...

....the EP line in a ExtremeSocket is going to look stupidly tasty even with those prices.
(which aren't expensive btw).

 

[aigomorla]

This is sick :

Xeon E5-2687W v2 8 cores 3.4 GHz 20 MB 150 Watt $2414.35
Xeon E5-2690 v2 10 cores 3 GHz 25 MB 130 Watt $2355.52
Xeon E5-2697 v2 12 cores 2.7 GHz 30 MB 130 Watt $2949.69

Price is sick also..

those are blade server prices... :\

 

[mavere]

Looks like there will indeed be a 12 core IVB Xeon chip:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...arks,3585.html

Are there any reasons why a 12 core IVB under Turbo can't simply be a superset of a lower TDP consumer part?

The power envelope of the 12 core can more than hold any possible output of, say, a retail 3770. Even considering worse leakage binning, there is massive room for comparable clock scaling if a workload only needs 1-4 cores, and the architecture can obviously handle that thermal density.

The 12 core Xeon falls behind quite a bit under single-threaded conditions, but I don't see why it needs to.

 

[exar333]

As we can't even get an 8C enthusiast CPU. Crappy days to be an enthusiast. :/

 

[ViRGE]

Are there any reasons why a 12 core IVB under Turbo can't simply be a superset of a lower TDP consumer part?

The power envelope of the 12 core can more than hold any possible output of, say, a retail 3770. Even considering worse leakage binning, there is massive room for comparable clock scaling if a workload only needs 1-4 cores, and the architecture can obviously handle that thermal density.

The 12 core Xeon falls behind quite a bit under single-threaded conditions, but I don't see why it needs to.

I would guess there are leakage/scaling concerns. For a high density CPU you want low leakage, however leakage and clockspeed scaling are positively correlated. It may not be possible to both get a low leakage 12 core CPU that stays within a reasonable envelope, and at the same time has enough scalability to turbo up to 4GHz at a reasonable voltage.

 

[aigomorla]

AGAIN.

the 10 and 12 cores are blade servers..

Meaning the cpu socket wont even fit....

:\


Theres no point in talking about these chips unless ur an IT professional looking to upgrade some machines because your warrenty expired.

 

[mavere]

AGAIN.

the 10 and 12 cores are blade servers..

Meaning the cpu socket wont even fit....

Do you have a source on this?

The THG article mentioned it fitting on LGA2011 workstation motherboards with a firmware update, and older E5-2xxx also fit on LGA2011. Besides that, the context of the article was about the upcoming Mac Pro, where one (presumably) will have choice of various core counts.

 

[crashtech]

AGAIN.

the 10 and 12 cores are blade servers..

Meaning the cpu socket wont even fit....

:\


Theres no point in talking about these chips unless ur an IT professional looking to upgrade some machines because your warrenty expired.

A blade server is a form factor, not a socket designation. I see blade server mobos with LGA2011 all the time.

So, what are you talking about?

 

[Sweepr]

6C/12T Ivy Bridge-E die revealed

At ~258mm2 its smaller than the 4C/8T Sandy Bridge-E (294mm²) & FX ''Vishera'' (315mm²) and slightly larger than 2M/4C+IGP Trinity/Richland (246mm²).

 

[Shmee]

So we still don't know the IB-E lineup and how many cores the top chip will have? :/