Jack Layton 1950-2011

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RbSX

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That doesn't really help your cause....just sayin

What I'm saying is that saying conservatives went after Layton is kind of a d-bag move, it's one journalist, when the party itself hasn't tried to benefit of it at all.
 

sandorski

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Oct 10, 1999
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What I'm saying is that saying conservatives went after Layton is kind of a d-bag move, it's one journalist, when the party itself hasn't tried to benefit of it at all.

Ok. She didn't take a run at Harper though. You probably should have been more specific as to what you meant.
 

Martin

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Blatchford ranks up there with Rosie DiManno as one of the worst columnists in Canada. Completely self-absorbed and attention seeking - qualities needed in a columnist to be sure, but also wildly out of control in both of these cases. It's really a shame that the Post brought her back on.

Blatchford doesn't understand passion - doing something because you love doing it. Whether it's an engineer designing a car, a musician composing a song or in this case Jack Layton pursuing politics, she can only see these through a cynic's eyes - nothing more than a self-aggrandizing pursuit of fame and power. A pretty miserable way of looking at the world, IMO.
 

mmntech

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Blatchford ranks up there with Rosie DiManno as one of the worst columnists in Canada. Completely self-absorbed and attention seeking - qualities needed in a columnist to be sure, but also wildly out of control in both of these cases. It's really a shame that the Post brought her back on.

She does have a point though. The spin doctors likely drafted most of that letter. A man hours away from death's door would not likely be able to craft a letter that detailed. It reads more like an election manifesto than a good bye.

I'll give Jack props to eliminating the Bloc. But how much was that actually him and how much was it dissatisfaction with the establishment. Both the Bloc and Liberals (both left-centre) acted arrogantly towards the electorate and the NDP were the only left wing alternative. If you've got a group that would never vote for Harper regardless of the situation, what other direction would they take? I'm thinking this was more a case of strategic voting rather than an actual belief in NDP politics. This has been going on for a long time. As Liberal support dropped, NDP support went up. Quel Suprise. Both parties were running on remarkably similar platforms, especially in the last election. Heck, when I went to the local debate back in April, I've never seen three candidates (lib/green/NDP) agree so much on everything in my entire life.

I think Layton's contributions are overblown, in other words. I think he was charismatic. That he pushed a lot of people over the fence. However, I don't think he was the driving force behind the NDP's historic victory. He was just at the right place at the right time. This movement to canonize him is really starting to annoy me. He was a sleazy, opportunistic politician, like every other, and had more than his share of dirt. Everyone conveniently forgets when he was living off the dole while sitting as councillor.

I do not think he deserves a state funeral. It's unprecedented and more a ploy by the PM to save face because he cannot attend. Layton was no PM, and certainly not a national hero.
 

Number1

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I am watching the funeral right now. It's just another political rally for the NDP. What a joke.
 
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Thought this was a nice touch. Nathan PhillipS Square awash with chalk tributes.

 
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dennilfloss

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That was a very moving ceremony. Very strong, touching, inclusive words in the eulogies.

"Another world is not only possible, she is on her way. On a quiet day, I can hear her breathing." — Arundhati Roy
 

desy

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Clearly politics were front and center in that funteral however I wasn't expecting anything less
I've often called Jack a used car salesman and the pitch keeps coming, doesn't mean I don't think he was an inexhaustable resource for his political and moral ideology and a dedacated public servant
 
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