Jackson in deep doo dooo

[Zanix]

Originally posted by: NFS4
And I thought that ATOT'ers were porn freaks, Mike is just a sick fvck:Q

Sarcasm meter goes boink.

 

[cmv]

Originally posted by: Goosemaster
To have so many people's lives definied by such a pale-faced man is appalling.

Defined or defiled? It is truely a sad state of affairs. I didn't believe the allegations before and I still withold judgement but it will be interesting to see what comes out. I hope there isn't any shoddy settlements.

 

[cerebusPu]

if more families came out and sued him, Id have a better time believing its not just that one family scavenging for money.

 

[Philippine Mango]

It's really pathedic though that these parent's bring thier kids there even after the '93 incident. I talked about it with some people and they "claimed" that they were poor and couldn't afford day care so they take them to the neverland ranch, I was like WTF?

 

[trmiv]

Man, Michael Jackson makes R. Kelly look like the Pope.

 

[loic2003]

I'm tired of hearing crap like "Yeah but MJ's a child at heart and he just loves children". Bollocks. He's a fully grown man and should act like one. Wealth and popularity aren't excuses to be acting this way. He's got a brain, even if he is innocent he must figure how dodgy his actions look, especially when it's all veiled in secrecy behind the walls of neverland.

I used to like Mikkey J. He rocked. But when he started doing all the 'I'm jesus' shite (like the act when Jarvis came on stage) it started to piss me off as it looked as though his ego had gotten out of hand.

I hope the guy is innocent and that these are simply accusations from people trying to take a slice from his well earned fortune, but as time progresses I feel I'm leaning to the side of the rumors/accusations.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
It's really pathedic though that these parent's bring thier kids there even after the '93 incident. I talked about it with some people and they "claimed" that they were poor and couldn't afford day care so they take them to the neverland ranch, I was like WTF?

Yeah it's lame. If you brought your kid to mickie J after all of this stuff you're a dumb sh*t.

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: loic2003
I'm tired of hearing crap like "Yeah but MJ's a child at heart and he just loves children". Bollocks. He's a fully grown man and should act like one. Wealth and popularity aren't excuses to be acting this way. He's got a brain, even if he is innocent he must figure how dodgy his actions look, especially when it's all veiled in secrecy behind the walls of neverland.

I used to like Mikkey J. He rocked. But when he started doing all the 'I'm jesus' shite (like the act when Jarvis came on stage) it started to piss me off as it looked as though his ego had gotten out of hand.

I hope the guy is innocent and that these are simply accusations from people trying to take a slice from his well earned fortune, but as time progresses I feel I'm leaning to the side of the rumors/accusations.

He apparently is incapable of maintaining a relationship with a peer (i.e., another adult). Why? He should be working on that in therapy, not hanging out with kids in neverland. Basically, he needs to grow the fvck up. And come clean, if he has been sexually abusing children. Innocent or guilty, he should definitely be receiving some kind of psychiatric assistance.

 

[Pliablemoose]

Originally posted by: Fmr12B

Originally posted by: bootymac

Originally posted by: maziwanka
i find this whole ordeal incredibly sad.

i tend to believe that MJ is innocent, although he probably acted in ways that are strange to normal ppl.

also, i haven't read of any "hard" evidence of MJ's improprieties... all i hear are testimonials from those accusing him of the crimes...

Yeah, totally agree with you. I feel sorry for the guy

I agree as well. If MJ liked boys he would not have waited 10yrs for victim #2. Also, why wouldnt MJ just go to countires where child prostituion is rampant, Thailand, South Cost of India, and do his deeds there. Especially after being rung up for $20M in '93? Those kids have been described as hard, tough, street savvy kids. Others that knew the kids I have read/heard would talk smack back and had no shyness in em.

Yep, poor MJ, the misunderstood homosexual pedophile.:disgust:

Child Sexual Abuse ~ Disclosures

Among victims of sexual abuse, the inability to trust is pronounced, which also contributes to secrecy and non-disclosure.
Source: Courtois & Watts, 1982.

Children often fail to report because of the fear that disclosure will bring consequences even worse than being victimized again. The victim may fear consequences from the family, feel guilty for consequences to the perpetrator, and may fear subsequent retaliatory actions from the perpetrator.
Sources: Berlinger & Barbieri, 1984; Groth, 1979; Swanson & Biaggio, 1985.

Victims may be embarrassed or reluctant to answer questions about the sexual activity.
Source: Berlinger & Barbieri, 1984.

Victims may also have a feeling that "something is wrong with me," and that the abuse is their fault.
Sources: Johnson, 1987; Tsai & Wagner, l978.

In addition to "sexual guilt," there are several other types of guilt associated with the abuse, which include feeling different from peers, harboring vengeful and angry feelings toward both parents, feeling responsible for the abuse, feeling guilty about reporting the abuse, and bringing disloyalty and disruption to the family . Any of these feelings of guilt could outweigh the decision of the victim to report, the result of which is the secret may remain intact and undisclosed.
Source: Courtois & Watts, 1982; Tsai & Wagner, l978.

A child's initial denial of sexual abuse should not be the sole basis of reassurance that abuse did not occur. Virtually all investigative protocols are designed to respond to only those children who have disclosed. Policies and procedures that are geared only to those children who have disclosed fail to recognize the needs of the majority of victims.
Source: Sorensen & Snow, 1991.

Study of 630 cases of alleged sexual abuse of children from 1985 through 1989: Using a subset of 116 confirmed cases, findings indicated that 79 percent of the children of the study initially denied abuse or were tentative in disclosing. Of those who did disclose, approximately three-quarters disclosed accidentally. Additionally, of those who did disclose, 22 percent eventually recanted their statements.
Source: Sorensen & Snow, 1991.

Young victims may not recognize their victimization as sexual abuse.
Source: Gilbert, l988.

There is the clinical assumption that children who feel compelled to keep sexual abuse a secret suffer greater psychic distress than victims who disclose the secret and receive assistance and support.
Source: Finkelhor & Browne, 1986.

Early identification of sexual abuse victims appears to be crucial to the reduction of suffering of abused youth and to the establishment of support systems for assistance in pursuing appropriate psychological development and healthier adult functioning . As long as disclosure continues to be a problem for young victims, then fear, suffering, and psychological distress will, like the secret, remain with the victim.
Sources: Bagley, 1992; Bagley, 1991; Finkelhor et al. 1990; Whitlock & Gillman, 1989.

 

[jEnus]

I think that if he's convictied, they should dye him back to his natural color.

 

[dragonballgtz]

If he ever goes int general population in prison, someone's going to kill him quickly.

Best choice for MJ is suicide...

The two worst things you can be if you are going to prison are:
1. A former cop
2. A child milester(sp)

I would think they would make him the prison ho but he might like it. So if he does go to jail I'll give him a week before someone kills him.

 

[Pliablemoose]

Originally posted by: dragonballgtz

If he ever goes int general population in prison, someone's going to kill him quickly.

Best choice for MJ is suicide...

The two worst things you can be if you are going to prison are:
1. A former cop
2. A child milester(sp)

I would think they would make him the prison ho but he might like it. So if he does go to jail I'll give him a week before someone kills him.

Yep, someone in for life without parole will plan & execute his murder, good riddance to a piece of human trash.

 

[tami]

Originally posted by: jEnus
I think that if he's convictied, they should dye him back to his natural color.

:thumbsup:

 

[ShotgunSteven]

Saw the thread title, thought you meant Jesse Jackson.

 

[Kev]

you guys are ignorant, it was a slumber party! yaaay! where's blanket?

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Yep, someone in for life without parole will plan & execute his murder, good riddance to a piece of human trash.

How are you so certain he has molested children?

 

[IHateMyJob2004]

I guess some kid my wife knew had cancer and was supposed to die. Make a wish senthim to see Michael Jackson. He came back "different". Never talked of an incedent occuring, but from what I've been told he did not come back the same person.

The child managed to survive. Still hasn't gone to authorities. But it's just odd that he miracuously changed. I guess he baceome more shy and quiet for some reason?

 

[Hammer]

i read that whole thing. he's screwed. those kids are being extremely specific. he doesn't stand a chance.

 

[imported_Reck]

Haha like he's actually going to go to a regurlar prision. He'll go to one where they serve steak and wine for dinner. Just watch...

 

[bapace]

Hope he gets convicted and put in Federal Ass Pounding Prison. Give him what he deserves, General Population.

"NO BUBBA, NOT TONIGHT"

"That's not what you told those little boys, you B!tch"

 

[Pliablemoose]

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Yep, someone in for life without parole will plan & execute his murder, good riddance to a piece of human trash.

How are you so certain he has molested children?

2 children have come forward, the stuff the searches are coming up with are supportive of the claims.

If it was my children making the claims, he'd already be dead.

 

[aidanjm]

I am interested to know why people get so outraged when the issue is little boys getting sexually molested. People made such a fuss about that Catholic Church scandal, but the percentage of priests in the Catholic Church who abuse children is actually the same as the percentage of men in the wider community who abuse children. Meanwhile, across the county, thousands of Dad's are feeling up or raping their daughters and nieces. Yet this is not considered a national scandal. Why?

 

[TheAudit]

Michael Jackson is a Smooth Criminal!

 

[EmoHawk]

Originally posted by: aidanjm
I am interested to know why people get so outraged when the issue is little boys getting sexually molested. People made such a fuss about that Catholic Church scandal, but the percentage of priests in the Catholic Church who abuse children is actually the same as the percentage of men in the wider community who abuse children. Meanwhile, across the county, thousands of Dad's are feeling up or raping their daughters and nieces. Yet this is not considered a national scandal. Why?

Its natural to want to see the rich, popular or whatever person get nailed showing that they're nothing special.

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Yep, someone in for life without parole will plan & execute his murder, good riddance to a piece of human trash.

How are you so certain he has molested children?

2 children have come forward, the stuff the searches are coming up with are supportive of the claims.

If it was my children making the claims, he'd already be dead.

I'm an agnostic on the question of his guilt.

None of the stuff found in the searches is terribly convincing. Who doesn't have a few porn mags in the house. A few finger prints here and there. It isn't exactly a strong case.

As for killing a molester - why? You would end up in jail yourself. Your children would lose their father. How is that a good thing?