Jailbreak iPhone 3g = Brick?

Kroze

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I'm thinking of jailbreaking my iPhone 3g with version 2.2.1

Is it true that if i update my software later down the road, apple will brick my phone? or is it they only do it to those who unlock their phone?


Also, once you jailbreak your phone can you go and revert back (ie - un-jailbreak it so you can upgrade to future software upgrade from apple)
 

dougp

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You need to go to www.modmyi.com for more information, it's not that big of a risk - but don't do it if you're worried about those problems.
 

pm

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iPhone hackers have their own lingo that they've made up.

Jailbreaking - a software hack to disable code-checking on the primary processor which allows files to be moved on and off of the iPhone without having to go through iTunes.

Unlocking - a software hack that modifies the baseband process firmware to trick the phone into thinking that it is SIM unlocked.


Jailbreaking has always been reversible. It modifies a section of the main processor's firmware and to undo it all you need to do is to revert back to a firmware version from Apple. Not all firmware releases from Apple will revert the jailbreak, so sometimes you need to flash it a couple of times. The somewhat scary one at times has been unlocking. Early unlocks modified the baseband in ways that made it so that updates from Apple would only partially overwrite the change which resulted in the phone "bricking".

You'll be safe enough jailbreaking - it's when you mess with yellowsn0w (iPhone 3G unlocking tool) that things get riskier. http://blog.iphone-dev.org/
 

QueBert

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you can unjailbreak, and it's pretty much impossible to f*ck it up. I mean technically you could do it wrong, worst case senario if you have to restore it back to the default Apple firmware. The long term risk is when a new version of firmware comes out you have to find a new jailbreak for it. Quickpwn stays on top of those. Jailbreaking is an absolute if you ask me. so so many cool apps on Cydia it's not even funny.
 

pinenuts

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It's pretty damn easy to jailbreak unlock your phone with the quickpwn wizard. It lets you restore as well.
 

pm

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The main advantages of jailbreaking:
1. Forbidden iTunes Store apps - you can add Apps that the Apple store prohibits.
a. PDANet - a program to tether your iPhone to a laptop via WiFi or USB so that you can surf the internet using the cell phone data connection on the iPhone.
b. Backgrounder & Insomnia - programs to run programs in the background. For example, an IM program so that even when your phone is sleeping, or you are using another app, you can still get IM messages.
c. SBSettings - this isn't a really compelling app, but I love it. It allows easy access to key functions - like turning WiFi and Bluetooth on and off - from the main GUI screen.
d. Swirly MMS - a full featured MMS app that allows you to send and receive MMS's
e. Winterboard - a replacement for the main GUI interface that allows complete manipulation of icons, backgrounds, sounds, etc. You can add scripts to backgrounds and the slider screen (like a script to display an analog clock instead of a static photo).
2. SSH and file transfer - you get access to the file system of the iPhone and get command-line Unix access to the phone by SSH'ing into it. So you can drag and drop files, pull up a process list on the phone, and it basically makes the phone feel more like a mini-laptop. Whether or not you think this is cool, depends on your perspective I guess. But the idea that I can SSH into my phone is pretty cool.

The main disadvantages:
1. Updates will erase it and you'll need to do it over and over.
2. You need to wait until after a firmware release has been out a while before you can jailbreak it - the hackers need to figure out how to crack the new release. Sometimes there's no wait, but often there's been a multi-week delay.
3. It's easier than it used to be, but it's still not something I would recommend to my mother. It requires a level of tech knowledge to be comfortable doing. At various times, I've gotten errors with it that required re-flashing.
4. You have to deal with the hacking scene. This can be cool - I personally like it - but which tool you should use depends on who figured out things first. The present solution of Pwntool'ing was preceeded by ZiPhone which was preceeded by iBrickr. There's also a certain level of the fact that you have to trust a group that you don't know much about to do "the right thing" with your precious iPhone and not turn it into a spam zombie or something.
5. Some of the hacked apps introduce instability - not as much a problem nowadays, but I remember a few crashing bugs in Summerboard (Winterboard's predecessor).
6. Some of the hacked apps use more power than typical (Paranoia, and OpenSSH used to).
7. Some of the hacked apps introduce safety concerns - with WiFi on, and OpenSSH running, in theory anyone can log into your iPhone and do anythign they want to with it.



My iPhone is jailbroken and I run Backgrounder and SBsettings and I love it.
 

S Freud

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Where would I go to learn about jailbreaking my phone? Is there a step by step tutorial out there? About how long does it take?

Thanks
 

pm

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The software to jailbreak iPhone's is available here:
http://blog.iphone-dev.org/

Scroll all the way to the bottom and there are links. Quickpwn is the easier software choice, Pwnagetool is more complex (and MacOS only).

There's a lot of very detailed and clear guides here: www.iclarified.com
For jailbreaking on Windows: http://www.iclarified.com/entry/index.php?enid=1881
For MacOS: http://www.iclarified.com/entry/index.php?enid=1842

Cydia is the name of the installer most apps use - so in Quickpwn, you'll want to choose that. Installer is the name of the older installer and isn't used as much in my experience, but there's no harm in installing it too.

How long it takes depends on how you do it and how much stuff you have on the phone and how large the memory is. I usually build a custom new jailbroken image using Pwntool and then restore it using iTunes and this takes about 10 minutes to make the image and then the usual about of time to update the image (it's like an hour, I think. 10 minutes to flash and then 40 minutes to update all 16GB of my music and movies and everything).

I've heard that the Quickpwn tool is quite bit faster - hence the name, I guess - and can do it in under 10 minutes. But I'm more used to Pwntool so I use what I know.
 

QueBert

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Originally posted by: AUMM
is it worth my time to jailbreak it?

It's easy to do, add's a ton of functionality and if you pay attention to the apps you install from Cydia and install ones that aren't buggy there's zero reason not to. Quickpwn literely takes 3 minutes, if you can read what's on the screen you can jailbreak. I would say my mom could get Quickpwn right the first time, and if you mess up. you just run it again. I don't see how anyone could mess it up to the point the iPhone is dead.

what PM said is great, he could add hClipboard for copy + paste support to his list. Before I jailbroke my Touch it was already one of my favorite gadgets ever. After Jailbreaking it, it's not even close. I love my Touch and can't imagine life without it.
 

Muadib

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This thread reminds me that I had a question on some for the Jailbroken apps. PDANet & Intellascreen are no longer free. How is that handled the next time you have to Jailbrake, and have to install the apps again?

Originally posted by: pm
Insomnia - a program to run programs in the background. For example, an IM program so that even when your phone is sleeping, or you are using another app, you can still get IM messages.

I use Backgrounder to do this. Do you find Insomnia better?
 

pm

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Originally posted by: Muadib
This thread reminds me that I had a question on some for the Jailbroken apps. PDANet & Intellascreen are no longer free. How is that handled the next time you have to Jailbrake, and have to install the apps again?

I know that SwirlyMMS ties their app to the iPhone itself (using the macID or something like that). So you can install it over and over on the same phone and it's fine. But if you lose the phone or break it, you need to buy a new copy.

Originally posted by: Muadib
I use Backgrounder to do this. Do you find Insomnia better?

Actually, no. I forgot that I'm back to Backgrounder. I just forgot to change my name for what I'm using it in my head back to Backgrounder when I resintalled it. I did try Insomnia for a while, but of the two, I thought Backgrounder is the better.

Corrected my post above.
 
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