Janitor made $270K last year in pay and benefits

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SSSnail

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Most of you are assuming that he "worked" all that hours. As a former denizen of SF, I can tell you that is not the case.

Keep in mind just because he's clocking in for 16 hours a day doesn't mean he's doing anything during that time. He might be sitting on his ass on his phone for half of that.

This is the correct answer. The abuse is rampant across the entire BART organization, and to an extent, MUNI as well.
 

Sonikku

Lifer
Jun 23, 2005
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If only all of us could experience the dream job of endless overtime janitorial work.
 

dud

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Feb 18, 2001
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What kind of life would someone have working 12-16 hour days, day in and day out for years? Can it be done ... yes. Should it be done ... that's a personal choice. This guy is getting paid well but he is paying a high price himself.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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404 outrage not found. dude worked OT - take it up with BART for allowing an infinite amount of OT to the point where a janitor does make 270k.

BREAKING NEWS - GUY WORKS 18 HOURS A DAY AND MAKES A LOT OF MONEY - MORE AT 11.

/caps
Sounds like he works harder than 75% of the people bitching

good for him

repeating all of these comments in a post of its own to display my endorsement of the messages within.
 

Regs

Lifer
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Any REAL employer with a MANAGER that isn't RETARDED would realize the overall monetary costs of paying someone time and 1/2 isnt't reational. The point simply being, I blame the manger for paying obscene princes that are unworthy in the real world

I was going to say, isn't the whole idea behind the law of OT is so that jerk-off businesses don't do this kind of thing? To force them to hire more unemployed people? They're only punishing themselves. The guy making OT pay is every blue color's hero.
 

JEDI

Lifer
Sep 25, 2001
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I used to work construction...and I worked a BUTTLOAD of overtime every week...usually 6-12's, but sometimes 7-12's or more.

for me, 7-12's was pretty lucrative. I made about $4500 per week for 7-12's...but I COULD NOT do that day in, day out, every week...after a few months, I'd cut back to working 40 hours per week for a few weeks...then back to the grind. (keep in mind, I USUALLY commuted 4-6 hours per day on top of my work hours)
wha?!
2-3hrs each way?
you lives 100+ miles from work?

wouldn't it be more efficient to rent a basement near work for $300/month?

did have a company truck? or at least a company gas card?
 
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RaistlinZ

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The works a shit ton of hours, doing a crappy job. He deserves to get paid.
 

stlc8tr

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If the guy actually worked during those hours more power to him but I feel people who put in some unrealistic hours more often than not are just gaming the system.

it's also unknown if he's close to retirement or not. It's common to jack up the OT in the final few years in order to get a juicy retirement income.

Some folks are getting more in retirement pay than their base pay when they were working.
 

BoomerD

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Feb 26, 2006
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wha?!
2-3hrs each way?
you lives 100+ miles from work?

wouldn't it be more efficient to rent a basement near work for $300/month?

did have a company truck? or at least a company gas card?


Yes, about 100 miles each way. I got decent gas mileage at the time...and it's the Bay Area...you can't rent a parking space for $300/month. PLUS, my work locations and companies changed from time to time...no easy (or affordable) way to find a "central" location that would eliminate the commute entirely.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
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Yes, about 100 miles each way. I got decent gas mileage at the time...and it's the Bay Area...you can't rent a parking space for $300/month. PLUS, my work locations and companies changed from time to time...no easy (or affordable) way to find a "central" location that would eliminate the commute entirely.

I imagine driving that crane down 101 or 80 every day is hell on time and hell on gas, no?
 

BoomerD

No Lifer
Feb 26, 2006
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I imagine driving that crane down 101 or 80 every day is hell on time and hell on gas, no?

LOL! yeah, they don't go very fast...and are definitely not very fuel efficient. (4+/- mpg) and hills? 15-20 mph...commuters LOVE cranes during rush hour. (which is part of why oversized loads are banned from some freeways during the normal rush hours)
 

Darwin333

Lifer
Dec 11, 2006
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I wonder how their pensions are set up. Here locally a lot firemen and police pension amounts were based on their last 3 or 4 years pay. To game the system they save all of their vacation time and any other kind of paid leave over the years and then take them as cash in their last years while working all the overtime that they can. Some of these guys had pensions paying them 3 times more than their ending base salary, for the rest of their lives. Most had pensions far above what they were supposed to be receiving, it was a legal loophole that everyone knew about and they all helped each other game the system.
 

SSSnail

Lifer
Nov 29, 2006
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May be anecdotal, but from what I've seen and experience, doesn't look like there were a lot of cleaning happened in the BART or MUNI stations. What I see are often the inefficiencies stereotypical of government, or unionized workers on display. Standing around, working on their cellphones instead of doing any actual work, congregating in groups and generally just bullshitting while one guy pretends to work, etc...

You can't really be honest with yourself if you don't think there are rampant abuse going on with that system. A few years back, a lot of the MUNI workers were exposed as gaming the system with the overtime and sick days as well. But, I digress...
 

madoka

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Jun 22, 2004
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You can't really be honest with yourself if you don't think there are rampant abuse going on with that system. A few years back, a lot of the MUNI workers were exposed as gaming the system with the overtime and sick days as well. But, I digress...

One common way for BART employees is to call in sick for your regular shift, which you would still get paid for. Then immediately volunteer for the OT shift that you just created.
 

SSSnail

Lifer
Nov 29, 2006
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One common way for BART employees is to call in sick for your regular shift, which you would still get paid for. Then immediately volunteer for the OT shift that you just created.
Yup, it was sickening.
 

sdifox

No Lifer
Sep 30, 2005
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One common way for BART employees is to call in sick for your regular shift, which you would still get paid for. Then immediately volunteer for the OT shift that you just created.
Err what are the supervisors doing? That is ground for dismissal right there. Also, that's three weeks, what happens with the other 47 (assuming two weeks vacation)?
 
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