Japan allegedly has a cure/immunization.

[Mai72]

Trump is currently discussing a possible drug that can help fight COVID-19, and that it will be made available ASAP.

How effective this is in the long run we will have to wait. This isn't a cure though. Trump is acting like once this is released to the public it's all going to be over, and everything will be back to normal. It's again Trump whose trying to downplay how serious this is IMO. Maybe he's trying to snuff this out as fasrt as he can. I don't think this will be our cure though.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Trump is currently discussing a possible drug that can help fight COVID-19, and that it will be made available ASAP.

How effective this is in the long run we will have to wait. This isn't a cure though. Trump is acting like once this is released to the public it's all going to be over, and everything will be back to normal. It's again Trump whose trying to downplay how serious this is IMO. Maybe he's trying to snuff this out as fasrt as he can. I don't think this will be our cure though.

We're still on the exponential growth curve. Even if you could get medication to people tomorrow, you still have plenty of contagious people wandering around. The survivorship would go up and recovery times might go down, but new infections would continue for a good while.

That's one of the major distinctions between a treatment and a vaccine. Treatment helps those already affected, while vaccines help prevent new infections from occurring in the first place.

 

[Paratus]

We're still on the exponential growth curve. Even if you could get medication to people tomorrow, you still have plenty of contagious people wandering around. The survivorship would go up and recovery times might go down, but new infections would continue for a good while.

That's one of the major distinctions between a treatment and a vaccine. Treatment helps those already affected, while vaccines help prevent new infections from occurring in the first place.

This is true. However the major limiting resources to treatment is ventilators for the worst effected, beds for the those that needs hospitalization, and PPE for the medical workers.

Treatments that reduce the severity of the cases help with all three allowing the medical community to handle more cases before becoming overwhelmed.

This of course assumes that some of these treatments pan out.

 

[K1052]

Trump is currently discussing a possible drug that can help fight COVID-19, and that it will be made available ASAP.

How effective this is in the long run we will have to wait. This isn't a cure though. Trump is acting like once this is released to the public it's all going to be over, and everything will be back to normal. It's again Trump whose trying to downplay how serious this is IMO. Maybe he's trying to snuff this out as fasrt as he can. I don't think this will be our cure though.

Trump said that the FDA approved chloroquine to treat COVID-19. The FDA just announced that it has not approved it.
As a bonus the admin is dithering on actually using the DPA to coordinate production of medical supplies that are running short.

This man is hugely inadequate to the moment in which he finds himself.

 

[Mai72]

Trump said that the FDA approved chloroquine to treat COVID-19. The FDA just announced that it has not approved it.
As a bonus the admin is dithering on actually using the DPA to coordinate production of medical supplies that are running short.

This man is hugely inadequate to the moment in which he finds himself.

No doubt. I swear, all that Trump cares about is the stock market. He's making undocumented claims because he feels like this can shore up the stock market. But, in fact it's creating the opposite effect. People don't trust him, or have lost faith in what he says. It would seem anyway.

 

[hal2kilo]

Trump is currently discussing a possible drug that can help fight COVID-19, and that it will be made available ASAP.

How effective this is in the long run we will have to wait. This isn't a cure though. Trump is acting like once this is released to the public it's all going to be over, and everything will be back to normal. It's again Trump whose trying to downplay how serious this is IMO. Maybe he's trying to snuff this out as fasrt as he can. I don't think this will be our cure though.

Info on the anti-malaria drug has been on the internet for over a week.

 

[UNCjigga]

Even a “treatment” would be a huge step towards shortening the impact in America. Right now, the incubation period is anywhere from 2-14 days after exposure before symptoms appear, and the infected can be carriers for anywhere from 2-4 weeks after symptoms. Some of the treatments have shortened the entire infection duration to 4-5 days. That means immune systems get rid of the virus faster, making people less infectious and lowering quarantine requirements. Also means hospitals can treat and turnover patients much faster and not be overwhelmed. If treatments can be provided at scale, would go a long way towards helping us get back to normal sooner vs. later.

 

[JSt0rm]

Trump is currently discussing a possible drug that can help fight COVID-19, and that it will be made available ASAP.

How effective this is in the long run we will have to wait. This isn't a cure though. Trump is acting like once this is released to the public it's all going to be over, and everything will be back to normal. It's again Trump whose trying to downplay how serious this is IMO. Maybe he's trying to snuff this out as fasrt as he can. I don't think this will be our cure though.

I wouldnt believe anything he says. The drug is probably something one of his experts said may have a possible effect and he ran with it to get his numbers up.

 

[Mai72]

I wouldnt believe anything he says. The drug is probably something one of his experts said may have a possible effect and he ran with it to get his numbers up.

I agree. The FDA is saying wait a minute. We need testing. Trump is saying "get it out ASAP." You have to wonder why. Could it be his dismisal numbers, the economy, or the downfall of the stock market. The only thing he cares about is the 2020 election period! Trump is saying "this is a game changer!" I doubt Anthony Fauci feels the same way. Trump needs to stop sugar coating this. Be honest with the American public. It's highly unlikely that this will fix COVID-19. We have a long battle ahead. Let's be real. If this is a game changer then AWESOME!

 

[Paratus]

I wouldnt believe anything he says. The drug is probably something one of his experts said may have a possible effect and he ran with it to get his numbers up.

I linked it earlier but in a small scale test an old malaria anti-viral coupled with the antibiotic azithromycin showed promise in reducing the symptoms of infected people. The study was done by the French and while intriguing the test pool was small enough that we shouldn’t get our hopes up yet.

 

[kage69]

Sounds like even if not a complete cure/vaccine, this Avigan could potentially keep many people out of the woods. It's encouraging, going to keep an eye on this. I know several boomers with decades of cigarette consumption under their belts. They get out of breath having arguments. Going to pass this news along now actually.

 

[Brainonska511]

I linked it earlier but in a small scale test an old malaria anti-viral coupled with the antibiotic azithromycin showed promise in reducing the symptoms of infected people. The study was done by the French and while intriguing the test pool was small enough that we shouldn’t get our hopes up yet.

An open-label study in China of lopinavir-ritonavir found that there was no benefit compared to standard of care in hospitalized patients. (Published in NEJM)

There are trials running, but we can't just start handing out any ol medicine without actually having efficacy data to back it up.

 

[Mai72]

Sounds like even if not a complete cure/vaccine, this Avigan could potentially keep many people out of the woods. It's encouraging, going to keep an eye on this. I know several boomers with decades of cigarette consumption under their belts. They get out of breath having arguments. Going to pass this news along now actually.

Just my opinion, but I wouldn't do that because you're going to give them a false sense of safety. James Stockdale who wrote the book "Courage Under Fire" was a Vietnam war captive for 4 years. When asked who didn't make it out of Vietnam he said...

Oh, that's easy, the optimists. Oh, they were the ones who said, 'We're going to be out by Christmas.' And Christmas would come, and Christmas would go. Then they'd say, 'We're going to be out by Easter.' And Easter would come, and Easter would go. And then Thanksgiving, and then it would be Christmas again. And they died of a broken heart.

Then he added...

This is a very important lesson. You must never confuse faith that you will prevail in the end—which you can never afford to lose—with the discipline to confront the most brutal facts of your current reality, whatever they might be.

Point is, if I were an older person who smoked for decades I'd try to quit ASAP, or else I'm looking at death. You have to be honest with yourself, and take the steps needed to improve your health. If you tell these people that there is some type of drug that is going to take care of all of this, then you might be setting them up for a potential bad outcome. Just my opinion. I'm looking at this virus as if I will probably get it. What can I do to boost my immune system. Exercise, eat well, take vitamins, drink plenty of water, etc. Check out James Stockdale's story if you'd like. It's very inspiring.

James Stockdale - Wikipedia

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