Japan allegedly has a cure/immunization.

[shortylickens]

Question is: will they share with their arch nemesis, Red China?


Link added:

Japanese flu drug ‘clearly effective’ in treating coronavirus, officials say

Medical authorities in China said they tested the antiviral drug favipiravir on 340 patients and found it reduces recovery time and improves lung condition of patients, according to the Guardian.

nypost.com

admin allisolm

 

[UberNeuman]

Unfortunately, the delivery system is Godzilla.

 

[Ichinisan]

Maybe this should be in one of the existing discussion threads?

 

[SteveGrabowski]

面白い話し、弟。

 

[imported_tajmahal]

It would be out and open sourced if, indeed ,Japan came up with a viable treatment and cure. It doesn't really matter if they dislike China, they would release the information.

 

[allisolm]

And apparently it's been around since 2014. Seems to be very helpful with symptoms and improving lung function - maybe not so much with severe cases. Hopefully it will pass tests and get distributed. Drug is favipiravir, brand name Avigan.

Japanese flu drug ‘clearly effective’ in treating coronavirus, officials say

Medical authorities in China said they tested the antiviral drug favipiravir on 340 patients and found it reduces recovery time and improves lung condition of patients, according to the Guardian.

nypost.com

Japanese flu drug reportedly shows promise against coronavirus in clinical trials

Medical authorities in China said the drug favipiravir has produced encouraging results in clinical trials in the Chinese cities of Wuhan and Shenzhen.

thehill.com

 

[K1052]

It is certainly possible that we'll find one ore more off the shelf antivirals that could be helpful in beating back COVID-19 along with other existing drugs that can make symptoms less life threatening.

Going to take a bit to properly trial things though and see what actually works for whom.

If something is found to be effective nobody is going to keep it to themeslves.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

It is certainly possible that we'll find one ore more off the shelf antivirals that could be helpful in beating back COVID-19 along with other existing drugs that can make symptoms less life threatening.

Going to take a bit to properly trial things though and see what actually works for whom.

If something is found to be effective nobody is going to keep it to themeslves.

yeah heard on the radio that some older little used antiviral has shown to be very effective treatment.

 

[K1052]

yeah heard on the radio that some older little used antiviral has shown to be very effective.

The French may have stumbled upon an old malaria drug that combined with azithromycin which could be extremely helpful. They only did a small trial but the treatment is reportedly being used in Italy, China, and SK as its considered low risk.

 

[Sinsear]

It is certainly possible that we'll find one ore more off the shelf antivirals that could be helpful in beating back COVID-19 along with other existing drugs that can make symptoms less life threatening.

Going to take a bit to properly trial things though and see what actually works for whom.

If something is found to be effective nobody is going to keep it to themeslves.

The chinese might

 

[brycejones]

The chinese might

Doubtful, being the country to develop the cure or vaccine would be a huge boost to their international image.

 

[K1052]

Doubtful, being the country to develop the cure or vaccine would be a huge boost to their international image.

Yes, you don't win over the world to your side by literally tying to kill them.

China is starting to ship medical aid to the EU in part because they helped when China was bad off and also to bolster their standing.

 

[Mai72]

Hopefully this is true. But, I wouldn't bet on a cure for at least 1 year.

While results from this first trial may be available within three months, it will still take at least a year and likely longer for a resulting vaccine to be widely available to the public.

How far away is a cure for coronavirus COVID-19?

How are scientists going with finding a cure for COVID-19? What drugs or vaccines might be on the horizon to treat or prevent the disease?

www.abc.net.au

 

[Paratus]

The French may have stumbled upon an old malaria drug that combined with azithromycin which could be extremely helpful. They only did a small trial but the treatment is reportedly being used in Italy, China, and SK as its considered low risk.

I’d be interested in a link. I’m surprised azithromycin would have any effect on corona virus. (My daughter was put on azithromycin for strep before she was tested for corona last week - she allergic to more mainstream antibiotics)

Edit: found it.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/marybe...coronavirus--it-might-just-work/#35f333ea5c49

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Hopefully this is true. But, I wouldn't bet on a cure for at least 1 year.

How far away is a cure for coronavirus COVID-19?

How are scientists going with finding a cure for COVID-19? What drugs or vaccines might be on the horizon to treat or prevent the disease?

www.abc.net.au

sounds about right, all the experts have been saying 12-18 months for a vaccine that is ready Since this began.

 

[fleshconsumed]

Yes, you don't win over the world to your side by literally tying to kill them.

China is starting to ship medical aid to the EU in part because they helped when China was bad off and also to bolster their standing.

Yes, China is starting to assume the role of world leader when it comes to fighting coronavirus. Unlike US that can't even get its shit together, nevermind helping others. Sad days, we're watching decline of the US in real time.

 

[interchange]

An existing drug being effective is the best case scenario. Manufacturing would be the biggest hurdle there. If something is already approved as safe, it can be used off label without even a randomized trial. It should be pretty easy to tell clinically if it is helpful. That said, a lot of small trials which seem promising end up as complete busts, and there could be a lot invested in something being the solution before it not working is known. Worst case would be relaxing public health measures too soon. Some of these, though, only exist in a foreign market. But I don't think if they really are promising they will require the usual FDA approval process. Probably the best hope is reducing severity, duration, and infectivity. If so even by a little and the drug is widely available it could be a huge difference.

 

[Mai72]

Yes, China is starting to assume the role of world leader when it comes to fighting coronavirus. Unlike US that can't even get its shit together, nevermind helping others. Sad days, we're watching decline of the US in real time.

Well they have the experience. SARS, bird flu, etc. We've never dealth with anything like this. It's no excuse though. I thought this was America. We used to be at the forefront, but it seems most of Aisa has beaten us sadly. If you think about the worrisome over how we are getting beaten in Science and Mathematics IMO this crisis will shine a light on just how inadequate we really are.

 

[feralkid]

"Effective in treating the coronavirus".

This is a potential treatment, but is neither
a cure/immunization.


Fix title for accuracy, please.

 

[K1052]

^

Yes, this is an important distinction.

There is the possibility of utilizing existing drugs for therapy which isn't a cure.
The next phase is likely to be a custom antibody drug which could prevent infection and be used therapeutically also. Possibly available later this year.
A vaccine is still likely a year out minimum.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

^

Yes, this is an important distinction.

There is the possibility of utilizing existing drugs for therapy which isn't a cure.
The next phase is likely to be a custom antibody drug which could prevent infection and be used therapeutically also. Possibly available later this year.
A vaccine is still likely a year out minimum.

Also there is a strong possibility that since the virus has more in common with a cold it is very possible you will need multiple and continuous vaccinations to be protected. Our immune system forgets this kind of infection fast.
Drug companies will love this.

 

[1prophet]

Well they have the experience. SARS, bird flu, etc. We've never dealth with anything like this. It's no excuse though. I thought this was America. We used to be at the forefront, but it seems most of Aisa has beaten us sadly. If you think about the worrisome over how we are getting beaten in Science and Mathematics IMO this crisis will shine a light on just how inadequate we really are.

Because America has become a bastion of identity politics, political correctness, participation trophies, and instead of striving for excellence and higher standards we have turned into a bunch of crabs that look for a reason to pull anyone down who tries to move forward back into the barrel of mediocrity, can't hurt them feelings now.

Bill de Blasio’s Plan to Displace Asians In New York's Top Schools

Just 4 percent of specialized high school students got in under this program in 2017, but de Blasio will expand this program to fill 20 percent of the seats.

quillette.com

Seattle Schools Propose To Teach That Math Education Is Racist—Will California Be Far Behind?

California’s latest K–12 test scores were released earlier this month. Despite spending 26 percent more per pupil after inflation since 2011, test scores remain low, and improvement is proceeding at a glacial pace. Just 40 percent of California schoolchildren are proficient at math. What should...

www.hoover.org

And eventually it infects the business world were doing your best may get you fired because the other crabs end up looking bad.

Ten Reasons Good Employees Get Fired

We tend to think that people who get fired are people who screw up at work, make a lot of mistakes or fall down on the job. Great employees get fired, too! Here are ten reasons why.

www.forbes.com

 

[shortylickens]

I don't know about New York or California but Seattle has shown many times be so mind-numbingly liberal it actually seems to be moving backwards in civilization.

 

[K1052]

Also there is a strong possibility that since the virus has more in common with a cold it is very possible you will need multiple and continuous vaccinations to be protected. Our immune system forgets this kind of infection fast.
Drug companies will love this.

This remains to be seen. It's certainly possible to stamp out a virus entirely but it does require a huge effort.

In the meantime perhaps the Chinese government should outlaw wet markets for the next several millennia.

 

[Moonbeam]

I don't know about New York or California but Seattle has shown many times be so mind-numbingly liberal it actually seems to be moving backwards in civilization.

So what is it, the protein drinks or the salad bars. Anybody with a sore toe that has been induced by the temptation of some conservative nut job to blame it on liberals may all to easily be found riding around on a white horse tilting an mind-numbingly liberal wind mills. So look who has no substantive meat with their virtual potatoes. Mind numbing indeed. Every stick has two ends. Thanks for trying to hand me the short end you been lickken.