Japanese apologists at it again!

gopunk

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new...004/11/12/ixworld.html

A popular Japanese comic announced yesterday that it would censor one of its own stories after nationalist anger about its portrayal of Japanese brutality during the Rape of Nanking.

Young Jump, which sells two million copies a week, halted publication of its long-running story, The Country Burns, in September after being inundated by phone calls and e-mails objecting to the latest episode.

The magazine ran an apology yesterday for illustrations showing Japanese soldiers bayoneting helpless captives, assaulting women and beheading civilians during the assault on the Chinese city in the 1930s.

The publisher also said it would delete 10 pages and amend another 11 when the story is released in book form. There is no precedent for such self-censorship in Japanese comics, which often have graphic war scenes.

The Country Burns relates the travails of a civil servant during the turbulent 1930s. It is written by the manga artist Hiroshi Motomiya, whose work contains serious social commentary.

Japanese apologists claim that the Rape of Nanking is a fabrication or that the number killed was small and not unusual for wartime.

In October, the Right-wing Sankei newspaper denounced Mr Motomiya's account of "the fictional, so-called Nanking Massacre".

In fact, women, children and civilians were killed in a rampage that lasted for months. Most historians believe between 100,000 and 300,000 were killed.

Mr Motomiya studied contemporary pictures and accounts of the massacre. However, nationalists questioned the veracity of one particular picture he echoed in an attempt to cast doubt on the evidence and imply the massacre never happened.

Similar tactics were used against Iris Chang's 1997 bestseller, The Rape Of Nanking. A Japanese edition was cancelled after threats to the publisher.

Ms Chang was yesterday reported to have committed suicide in California after battling with depression.



this is just rediculous... can you imagine if some german newspaper wrote "the fictional, so-called Holocaust"?
 

iamme

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amazing, i'm reading The Good Man of Nanking, which is the memoirs/journal of John Rabe. Iris Chang, the author of The Rape of Nanking, called Rabe the "Oskar Schindler of China". Rabe was said to have been responsible for saving the lives of nearly 200,000 Chinese from the rape and murder from the Japanese during WWII.

it blows my mind that some Japanese nationalists could deny that this masscre even happened.
 

Brutuskend

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I thought the WINNERS where supposed to write the history books?:thumbsdown:

You DID it, own up to it.

So much for Honor I guess.
 

thomsbrain

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Originally posted by: CptObvious
Iris Chang found dead

R.I.P.

i saw her car on my way to school in the morning. there were about 10 cop cars there and they had the little dirt road taped off (i think it goes down to a fishing spot or something). i watched the papers to see what it was, and it was her (apparent) suicide.
 

Ronstang

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This doesn't surprise me at all. My friend spent 6 months in Japan in the early 90s and when he returned he told me that they teach that Pearl Harbor was propoganda and not true. He told me that the reason there are so many Japanese visiting the Arizona Monument in Pearl Harbor is to see how far the lie has been carried. After hearing that I lost what little respect I had for the people and culture of that island. It is one of the reasons I will not buy a Japanese car under any circumstance.
 

iamme

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Originally posted by: Ronstang
This doesn't surprise me at all. My friend spent 6 months in Japan in the early 90s and when he returned he told me that they teach that Pearl Harbor was propoganda and not true. He told me that the reason there are so many Japanese visiting the Arizona Monument in Pearl Harbor is to see how far the lie has been carried. After hearing that I lost what little respect I had for the people and culture of that island. It is one of the reasons I will not buy a Japanese car under any circumstance.

when you say "they teach" what do you mean? in their education system?
 

brigden

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It's kind of like American school boards removing pages of text books that discuss evolution, isn't it?
 

iamme

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Originally posted by: brigden
It's kind of like American school boards removing pages of text books that discuss evolution, isn't it?

not necessarily. it'd be more like American schools omitting portions of American history that involved massacring of Native Americans.
 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: brigden
It's kind of like American school boards removing pages of text books that discuss evolution, isn't it?

a lot worse in my opinion
 

brigden

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Originally posted by: Ronstang
This doesn't surprise me at all. My friend spent 6 months in Japan in the early 90s and when he returned he told me that they teach that Pearl Harbor was propoganda and not true. He told me that the reason there are so many Japanese visiting the Arizona Monument in Pearl Harbor is to see how far the lie has been carried. After hearing that I lost what little respect I had for the people and culture of that island. It is one of the reasons I will not buy a Japanese car under any circumstance.

Well, if you feel that strongly about something...

I stopped buying pizza from a local vendor when I discovered he was a Serb.
 

tk149

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Originally posted by: brigden
It's kind of like American school boards removing pages of text books that discuss evolution, isn't it?
Not really. The murder of 100,000 to 300,000 people 70 years ago isn't being covered up by failing to include a discussion of evolution. This is a whole other level of stupidity.
 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: Brutuskend
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Flyboys should be required reading.

:thumbsup:

Agreed.

Did you read that on my recommendation?

Yes. I remembered your thread about it and I saw it at Costco so I snatched it up. :beer: for you!
 

datalink7

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Originally posted by: iamme
Originally posted by: brigden
It's kind of like American school boards removing pages of text books that discuss evolution, isn't it?

not necessarily. it'd be more like American schools omitting portions of American history that involved massacring of Native Americans.

True, though I don't think they do that anymore (at least in my high school years (1997-2001), we discussed the massacreing of Native Americans in depth).
 

iamme

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Brutuskend
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Flyboys should be required reading.

:thumbsup:

Agreed.

Did you read that on my recommendation?

Yes. I remembered your thread about it and I saw it at Costco so I snatched it up. :beer: for you!

cool.....i'm going to put this in my queue of books to read

when i was younger, i HATED history. but now, i've become much more curious and attentive to learning about history. particularly war related history. i'm embarassed about how little i know about the history of my own country, Korea.

got a lot of reading to do
 

iamme

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Originally posted by: datalink7
Originally posted by: iamme
Originally posted by: brigden
It's kind of like American school boards removing pages of text books that discuss evolution, isn't it?

not necessarily. it'd be more like American schools omitting portions of American history that involved massacring of Native Americans.

True, though I don't think they do that anymore (at least in my high school years (1997-2001), we discussed the massacreing of Native Americans in depth).

oh, i wasn't saying that American schools did that (although, i don't know if they did or didn't). i was just saying it was a better analogy than brigden's evolution one.
 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: Brutuskend
Great!

Glad you enjoyed it.

Enjoyed is not really the right word... I was fascinated by the story, but it's not the kind of book that I'd read for entertainment.
 
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