Japanese apologists at it again!

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Kaieye

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I was in Nanking as a young tourist back in 1980 for two nights and our tour guides never mention the atrocities of what happened in the late 1930's. I didn't learn about what happened (Japanese Imperial army on the rampage) in the past until the mid-eighties...
 

777php

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Jul 17, 2001
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I know some Chinese friends who's parents would absolutely hate it if they brought home a Japanese gf or bf.
For me, I can't bring myself to hate a generation who have absolutely nothing to do with the atrocities of WWII.
 

gopunk

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Jul 7, 2001
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Originally posted by: ming2020
Come to think of it, besides the Germans, who else has really owned up to wartime atrocities and made proper reparations?

i don't think there's any question in america that there were atrocities committed against the blacks and native americans. reparations is another issue... but then again the atrocities committed by the germans and japanese are some of the worst mankind has seen in war (between two countries... i'm sure some of the stuff in africa today gets close).
 

DaWhim

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Feb 3, 2003
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Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: OS
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: Ronstang
This doesn't surprise me at all. My friend spent 6 months in Japan in the early 90s and when he returned he told me that they teach that Pearl Harbor was propoganda and not true. He told me that the reason there are so many Japanese visiting the Arizona Monument in Pearl Harbor is to see how far the lie has been carried. After hearing that I lost what little respect I had for the people and culture of that island. It is one of the reasons I will not buy a Japanese car under any circumstance.

i won't buy a japanese car either. i get flamed for it here on ATOT everytime i post it. i'll still post it tho.

i have never purchased a japanese car. never wiil.

it always surprises me when i see so many koreans that do.

Are you Korean? If so, I don't really blame you.

ya i'm korean born, but i'm an american.

however, i also can't deny my heritage either. fact is, the japanese committed atrocities during WWII that ranks up there with Hitler, Atilla the Hun, the Inquisition. you name it, they rank up there as one of the cruelest groups of people ever. and they continue to deny it. it shocks me that people are willing to just ignore all that just for their convenience.

not with that kind of attitude. looking back to the history, india was prosperous before they gained the independence from great britain. guess what gandhi did after the independence? he decided that they should boycott every goods from england.

I hate the japanese as much as you do, if not more. but I have no problem buying their goods. boycott doesn't work. the best way is buy their goods, learn it, and make it better.
 

bengorkor

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You can't hate the people, the instituition/government that is covering up the Nanjing massacre is the one to blame. The younger generation in Japan, since their government chose to censor themselves, know very little of the Nanjing incident. Like you said, you can't hate them because they don't have anything to do with it, but also because they aren't even aware of it. The kind of propaganda they teach the younger generation in their schoosl don't cover the war in great detail. They describe the war as something that helped the other countries, liberating them. BS!
Besides the former prime minster, Tomiichi Murayama's personal one-sentence 12 seconds statement, Japan has yet to make an official apology to her neighboring countries. Needless to say, none of the victims of massacre were compensated.
So, after the massacre in Nanjing, the invasion of China, Korea, as well as other nearby countries, Japan doesn't even apologize, at least not officially. Heck, they even honor their wartime "heroes." Like the rape, torture, murder, execution of people is something to be proud about. Fvcking unblievable. :|

Added link: http://www.arts.cuhk.edu.hk/NanjingMassacre/NM.html
 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: Deadtrees
Originally posted by: UglyCasanova
Off topic but on, I remember seeing a show about an exhibit going around about the Japanese biological weapons program in China dubbed Unit 731. If what they were saying was true, it was absolutely horrific, right up there with the holocaust. The exhibit was going around trying to educate everyone because the Japanese seemed to be in complete denial of everything that had happened.

After winning the war, U.S made an agreement with Japan that U.S will not mention Unit 731 in exchange of its biological data. The guy who created and directed the horrible experiments even became a principle of a major Janpanese university under U.S administration in Japan.
Holocaust was bad, but at least Germans just killed most of those people in gas chamber whereas Japanese did all those crazy experiments on people. It's even worse that that U.S closed its eyes on this matter in exchange of data.

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The Germans conducted medical experiments too. Thousands of people died in gruesome ways as a result of it.
 

gopunk

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Jul 7, 2001
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Originally posted by: bengorgor
You can't hate the people, the instituition/government that is covering up the Nanjing massacre is the one to blame. The younger generation in Japan, since their government chose to censor themselves, know very little of the Nanjing incident. Like you said, you can't hate them because they don't have anything to do with it, but also because they aren't even aware of it. The kind of propaganda they teach the younger generation in their schoosl don't cover the war in great detail. They describe the war as something that helped the other countries, liberating them. BS!
Besides the former prime minster, Tomiichi Murayama's personal one-sentence 12 seconds statement, Japan has yet to make an official apology to her neighboring countries. Needless to say, none of the victims of massacre were compensated.
So, after the massacre in Nanjing, the invasion of China, Korea, as well as other nearby countries, Japan doesn't even apologize, at least not officially. Heck, they even honor their wartime "heroes." Like the rape, torture, murder, execution of people is something to be proud about. Fvcking unblievable. :|

Added link: http://www.arts.cuhk.edu.hk/NanjingMassacre/NM.html

exactly... and from what i hear, the teachers are actually more left-wing and want to teach the stuff, but the education board or whatever is conservative and is preventing that from happening.
 

Excelsior

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May 30, 2002
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Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: brigden
It's kind of like American school boards removing pages of text books that discuss evolution, isn't it?

Evolution is still a theory. It's still arguable. You can't argue with 200,000 dead bodies, though.

No doubt. I dont see why brigden is comparing the two..the only similarity is censorship...after that they are different in everyway. This issue is one that has bothered me for a while..I know that Germany actually has the students take field trips to concentration camps.
 

PlatinumGold

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Originally posted by: iamme
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: OS
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: Ronstang
This doesn't surprise me at all. My friend spent 6 months in Japan in the early 90s and when he returned he told me that they teach that Pearl Harbor was propoganda and not true. He told me that the reason there are so many Japanese visiting the Arizona Monument in Pearl Harbor is to see how far the lie has been carried. After hearing that I lost what little respect I had for the people and culture of that island. It is one of the reasons I will not buy a Japanese car under any circumstance.

i won't buy a japanese car either. i get flamed for it here on ATOT everytime i post it. i'll still post it tho.

i have never purchased a japanese car. never wiil.

it always surprises me when i see so many koreans that do.

Are you Korean? If so, I don't really blame you.

ya i'm korean born, but i'm an american.

however, i also can't deny my heritage either. fact is, the japanese committed atrocities during WWII that ranks up there with Hitler, Atilla the Hun, the Inquisition. you name it, they rank up there as one of the cruelest groups of people ever. and they continue to deny it. it shocks me that people are willing to just ignore all that just for their convenience.

do you avoid all japanese made products? it seems in this global economy it's real hard to completely avoid a country's product, especially japanese.

ya, unfortunately it is difficult to avoid all japanese products. the reason i choose not to buy japanese cars is because of what the auto industry signified.

 

0roo0roo

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then i hope u buy american. cept ford was a nasty racist and i think antisemite from what i remember. and well theres always hitlers car.
 
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