Take your military out! Yankee go home!
I'm sure your boss man in NK would love for us to go home from Okinawa.
Once the Japanese military is ready, we can withdraw from Japan (including Japan's Okinawa) and Korea. But, the responsibility of defending Korea will be transferred to Japan, so we will hand over all of our bases / garrisons in Korea to the Japanese and let them defend it once again. The big bad American bully will be gone and Japan can help create a kind of Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere for the benefit of the people under their protection.
Japan can help create a kind of Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere for the benefit of the people under their protection.
Japan has her own NIMBY's, which is why the proposed moving of the base to a less populated area isn't taking place.
The stationing of American forces in Taiwan is an absurdity and an impossibility, given the nature of our relationship with the Govts of both the mainland and Taiwan. It's currently understood that the status quo will remain, and that none of the parties will seek military solutions to what we've acknowledged to be an affair for the Chinese to solve peacefully among themselves.
And, uhh, history being what it is, Koreans simply will not accept a Japanese military presence in their country anytime RSN, bet on that. The choice of language describing it, above, is the same used by Imperial Japan in the conquest and butchery of the past... a strange irony... or my sarcasm meter needs calibration...
There shouldn't be US bases in any nation except the US.
There shouldn't be US bases in any nation except the US.
Well, I don't think the US have military bases within Seoul. I was in Seoul last year. I think you're referring to Panmunjeom and the US military does have a presence there. Panmunjeom is about 40km north of Seoul.
As for Okinawa, it makes sense because it's closer to Taiwan and mainland China. Therefore in a conflict against the PRC, the US military can better protect Taiwan as well as project power in that region. If the bases were located in the Japanese mainland, then the US' ability for rapid response would be much slower.
Yes!
By not renewing the lease, which the Japanese government would be fully within it's rights to do. The base remains because both of our governments want it there for various reasons. Strategically it is important to both nations and not easily replaced.
If we got shut out of Okinawa the choices are fairly limited, probably between using Iwo Jima or leasing something from Taiwan.
Guam actually. There are plans already formulated that if the Japanese push the US out they'll simply relocate the Marines to Guam.
I was not aware that the majority of people in Japan, Taiwan and South Korea hate and scorn America.You spend billions defending some people and all you get is hate and scorn.
I was not aware that the majority of people in Japan, Taiwan and South Korea hate and scorn America.
Why not let UN and the rest of the world take care of it.
Once the Japanese military is ready, we can withdraw from Japan (including Japan's Okinawa) and Korea. But, the responsibility of defending Korea will be transferred to Japan, so we will hand over all of our bases / garrisons in Korea to the Japanese and let them defend it once again. The big bad American bully will be gone and Japan can help create a kind of Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere for the benefit of the people under their protection.
Do you believe the Japanese military is ready currently?
I don't.
In the future, I agree. As it stands now, I disagree that they should have us leave. I am not personally a fan of "shows of force" or imperialism/etc, but I also believe that if we leave Japan and Taiwan (today that is) we will see that region seeing territorial conflicts.
See I don't know what the American is trying to do here. You spend billions defending some people and all you get is hate and scorn.
Why do you care if NK invades SK or if Japan take over Korea or China take over Taiwan. Is that the American problem? Why not let UN and the rest of the world take care of it. Worse come to worse, there is nothing you can't accomplish with one or two nuke if someone really want to commit suicide and actually think about invading the US.
Time to stop being the world's policeman. Just tactically nuke someone if they really offend you. Why the ground troop, the nation building and the 50/100 year plan in a country that costs trillions that get you nothing but more hate.
So ive been stationed on Okinawa for a little more then three years, and ive been to korea twice on operations. To my knowledge there are no bases in Seoul, though i could be mistaken on that one. As to moving bases to less populated portions of the island, that will not happen. The cost to set up a military base is very high. The current plans, that have been on the books for at least about two years, and not at the moment under consideration for change are a move to Guam. The current plan has marines starting their move during fiscal year 2012.
Guam actually. There are plans already formulated that if the Japanese push the US out they'll simply relocate the Marines to Guam.
Heh. Gotta love it when Righties cite cost as a factor. We built gigantic and expensive bases in Iraq, Afghanistan the persian gulf and central asia as if money were asswipe, but moving a base on Okinawa is oh so expensive...
A little bit of bullshit meter calibration is in order, I think....
Guam actually. There are plans already formulated that if the Japanese push the US out they'll simply relocate the Marines to Guam.